wakka444
Smash Ace
ill be back one day
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The Official Ohio Brawl Power Rankings (11/25/12: NEW RANKINGS UPDATED!)
- Thread starter Ohio Power Rankings
- Start date
solecalibur
Smash Master
What r u talking about? I only c 2 godkais on the PRs
TheKiest
Smash Champion
@King: What parts are in question?
KassandraNova
Smash Master
Ah interesting image. :D
I like it! Haha.
Aw, I'm not an honorable mention anymore, oh well, gotta try harder I suppose. :D
I like it! Haha.
Aw, I'm not an honorable mention anymore, oh well, gotta try harder I suppose. :D
TheKiest
Smash Champion
@Kass: You'll get there. All that time playing Kel and the rest of cinci is paying off. You got into the bracket of one of the hardest tournaments we are going to see this year. We just need to shatter that "outside of the game" distraction you seem to have.
Kirikou Rung
Smash Apprentice
must make honorable mentions next time >ω<
King~
Smash Champion
what where the tournies that where used for this ranking period?
TheKiest
Smash Champion
LOLZ!
As you literally just said... heh.
These ones:
Brawl in the Hall 2, Owingsville, KY 9/25/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=287607
Ni-Kakuto-Geemu: Worthington, Ohio (Oct 2nd) RESULTS!!!!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288064
MLG DC 2010 Results - October 15th-17th
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=289173
The GP Affairs Ep. 1 "SCHWING! LoZ's Secret Word!" - Bloomington, IN - 10/23/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=289759
Delta Upsilon V Results - October 30th, 2010 - FULL RESULTS UP NOW!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=290224
Pool Pools 4 : 11/6/10 : RESULTS
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=290681
Springfield, OH - Nope's Monthly "Shugalicious's Sexy Saturday" - Nov. 20th
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=292048
Gameyard Showdown III: 11/27/10 - Garden City, MI
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=292441
Test Your Might X : 12/11/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293374
The GP Affairs Episode 3 RESULTS 12/11/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293377
Aww Hael it's Brawl in the Hall 3 Results! 12/18/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthrea...9#post11832049
As you literally just said... heh.
These ones:
Brawl in the Hall 2, Owingsville, KY 9/25/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=287607
Ni-Kakuto-Geemu: Worthington, Ohio (Oct 2nd) RESULTS!!!!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288064
MLG DC 2010 Results - October 15th-17th
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=289173
The GP Affairs Ep. 1 "SCHWING! LoZ's Secret Word!" - Bloomington, IN - 10/23/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=289759
Delta Upsilon V Results - October 30th, 2010 - FULL RESULTS UP NOW!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=290224
Pool Pools 4 : 11/6/10 : RESULTS
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=290681
Springfield, OH - Nope's Monthly "Shugalicious's Sexy Saturday" - Nov. 20th
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=292048
Gameyard Showdown III: 11/27/10 - Garden City, MI
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=292441
Test Your Might X : 12/11/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293374
The GP Affairs Episode 3 RESULTS 12/11/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293377
Aww Hael it's Brawl in the Hall 3 Results! 12/18/10
http://www.smashboards.com/showthrea...9#post11832049
KassandraNova
Smash Master
Thanks Keist! ^___^
<3
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@TKbreezy
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you guys should really be shooting for higher than HM's
especially you Kass..I believe with your rate of improvement you could def break into the PR spot
or at the very least the top of HM's
especially you Kass..I believe with your rate of improvement you could def break into the PR spot
or at the very least the top of HM's
Gotta start somewhere.
D
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Guest
I'll make HM's next time.
Maybe...
Maybe...
TheKiest
Smash Champion
@TKO: There are a TON of ohio players that are "mid level players" I remember some of the earlier lists having almost a different 5 people from each panelist.
Fizzle_Boy
Smash Ace
True facts Kiest. I was on and off the HMs list for months before securing a PR spot.
KassandraNova
Smash Master
Thanks Bro! :D If I keep improving that's what I'm hoping for! ^_^
No breaks for me! Just gotta learn that stupid mk ditto! *shakes fist at papa Z*
:D
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
This X100.
If you shoot for HMs, then your highest goal is only that. At the very best, that is all you will achieve. If you shoot for higher, then odds are you will go higher, and even if you don't, you won't rest on your laurels if you do land in HMs.
Inui
Banned via Warnings
links24
Smash Ace
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Wow, spam much Links?
GimR
GimR, Co-Founder of VGBootCamp
sai_:)
Smash Ace
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- Dec 22, 2005
- Messages
- 826
Woooooow too funny
TheKiest
Smash Champion
Alright Folks. (Day might murder me after reading this.... rofl)
Due to a lack of panelists, we have decided that we are going to recruit new panelists. BUT this requires a "test of your ranking abilities".
So from SiiS4 until the Next Delta (sometime in Feb.... if not then My tournament on the last weekend of Feb), will be the Panelist Audition Period.
After this period, people interested in becoming a panelist will PM either Me or KB their lists based on those tournaments. To make it easier, please just use Ohio tournaments in making this list.
When sending the list you MUST have the following:
- Top Ten
- 3 or more (up to 6) Honorable Mentions (in any order)
- Reasons FOR EACH PERSON why they deserve that specific spot
- Your criteria/logic for determining these spots.
- The tournaments you personally went to this period. (Can include OoS tournaments)
Please remember that this list is meant to simply answer the question: "Who are the top 10 players in Ohio?"
Players that have streaks or bursts shouldn't be ranked over other people because of one period alone. Consistency is a must.
Veteran players who haven't been around are always subject to hoping back on these IF they can perform as consistently. (AKA most of Smashfield)
Player Vs Player records are important, BUT are not the determining factor for this list (aka Inui logic).
The reason Shugo is ranked first is because he has beaten EVERYONE ELSE consistently, not just because he can beat Kel who can beat Y.b.M. who can beat Blue Rogue.
NOTE THAT THIS IS ROUND 1 OF THESE AUDITIONS!
There will be another test after the first wave.
Also note that....
We may limit based on region.
The one thing we like to do to keep the Bias opinions to a minimum is to have an even distribution between regions. Right now we have:
1 - Central Ohio
1- NEOH
2 - Cincinnatti
Ideally, I would like to see 2 from each with one from NWOH or Dayton.
We may not add anybody if we don't think they are qualified.
I want to say that there is no right or wrong answers.... BUT sadly there are. If the existing Panelists can't agree on advancing someone to the next round, then there will not be any new panelists (for the time being, some of us are getting old... heh).
BUT even if your list isn't accurate, if you can explain a valid argument well enough to prove your list is valid in your submissions, that earns bonus points too. We panelists rarely have to debate each other's rating criteria, but that doesn't mean it won't ever happen. Even our lists have changed when people bring up a point.
Go to this ranking tournaments
You can't make a list based on results alone. You need to see it/play people to find out.
Entries are DUE the WEEKEND AFTER THE LAST TOURNAMENT
So in other words.... the Saturday at 11:59 PM AFTER the last tournament of this period (either the next Delta or San Kakuto Geemu.
Anyone who smashes in Ohio can enter (aka is in Ohio for most of the duration of the year... like AZ)
After all the auditions are in, for kicks I'll make the "Non Ohio PR List" to show how the entries did as a group.
The next post will be what I did for the last list to give you an idea of what to submit.
Due to a lack of panelists, we have decided that we are going to recruit new panelists. BUT this requires a "test of your ranking abilities".
So from SiiS4 until the Next Delta (sometime in Feb.... if not then My tournament on the last weekend of Feb), will be the Panelist Audition Period.
After this period, people interested in becoming a panelist will PM either Me or KB their lists based on those tournaments. To make it easier, please just use Ohio tournaments in making this list.
When sending the list you MUST have the following:
- Top Ten
- 3 or more (up to 6) Honorable Mentions (in any order)
- Reasons FOR EACH PERSON why they deserve that specific spot
- Your criteria/logic for determining these spots.
- The tournaments you personally went to this period. (Can include OoS tournaments)
Please remember that this list is meant to simply answer the question: "Who are the top 10 players in Ohio?"
Players that have streaks or bursts shouldn't be ranked over other people because of one period alone. Consistency is a must.
Veteran players who haven't been around are always subject to hoping back on these IF they can perform as consistently. (AKA most of Smashfield)
Player Vs Player records are important, BUT are not the determining factor for this list (aka Inui logic).
The reason Shugo is ranked first is because he has beaten EVERYONE ELSE consistently, not just because he can beat Kel who can beat Y.b.M. who can beat Blue Rogue.
NOTE THAT THIS IS ROUND 1 OF THESE AUDITIONS!
There will be another test after the first wave.
Also note that....
We may limit based on region.
The one thing we like to do to keep the Bias opinions to a minimum is to have an even distribution between regions. Right now we have:
1 - Central Ohio
1- NEOH
2 - Cincinnatti
Ideally, I would like to see 2 from each with one from NWOH or Dayton.
We may not add anybody if we don't think they are qualified.
I want to say that there is no right or wrong answers.... BUT sadly there are. If the existing Panelists can't agree on advancing someone to the next round, then there will not be any new panelists (for the time being, some of us are getting old... heh).
BUT even if your list isn't accurate, if you can explain a valid argument well enough to prove your list is valid in your submissions, that earns bonus points too. We panelists rarely have to debate each other's rating criteria, but that doesn't mean it won't ever happen. Even our lists have changed when people bring up a point.
Go to this ranking tournaments
You can't make a list based on results alone. You need to see it/play people to find out.
Entries are DUE the WEEKEND AFTER THE LAST TOURNAMENT
So in other words.... the Saturday at 11:59 PM AFTER the last tournament of this period (either the next Delta or San Kakuto Geemu.
Anyone who smashes in Ohio can enter (aka is in Ohio for most of the duration of the year... like AZ)
After all the auditions are in, for kicks I'll make the "Non Ohio PR List" to show how the entries did as a group.
The next post will be what I did for the last list to give you an idea of what to submit.
TheKiest
Smash Champion
NOTE THAT THIS LIST HAS VERY MINIMUM EXPLANATION!
PLEASE BE MORE DETAILED IN YOUR SUBMISSIONS
My List
1st - Shugo - All he does is win win win no matter what.
2nd - Kel - He really just loses to Shugo for the most part.
3rd - Blue Rogue - I really have him tied with Y.b.M at this point. People are learning how to fight this monster.
4th - Y.b.M - Same as last time, really just loses to the players above (and Infern...)
5th - Fizzle - He has taken down just about everyone on this list and places very high, but not enough attendance to bring him to 4th.
6th - AlphaZealot - Pretty much same as last time due to fizzle drastically stepping his game up. Would be 5th otherwise
7th - Infern - Consistent like AZ. The tournes he does place top in, usually only have about 4-5 PR players total. Otherwise I would have him higher.
8th - Fonz - Beating Blue Rouge is what finally seperates him from Z, KB, DJ. Something those 3 have not done yet.
9th - DJ Iskaskribble - Consistently well.... here.
10th - Z - This player is way too good to not be on here. BUT due to his lack of attendance, he loses matchups he shouldn't... yet wins others he shouldn't.
HMS:
KB - I had to knock him down due to him not consistently keeping up with the other 10. Maybe after his "rebirth"
Lou - Very Very Solid Player. He is only beaten by follow smashfielders or by the people above this list.
Links24 - Consistent HM player
Sil - See above
Tako - See above
My Criteria
I personally read this as : "Who are the top 15 players in Ohio?"
Tournament attendance is great and all, but we all know that most of Smashfield, Quivo, OS, Z, and Smash64 are still powerhouses compared to some of these newer HMs.
I personally do this:
1) Is the player active (by our active rule)?
2) Has this player beaten anyone on the current PR lists (as in across states)?
3) How often has the player beaten the PR player on the list?
4) How often IN THIS PERIOD has the player beaten the PR player on the list?
5) Tournament Placements this period.
6) How often has this player lost to players NOT on this list?
Simply put.... I look at: "What would the results be in a 15 man pool? Does this list reflect their tournament performances?"
My problem with using results as the main argument is that some tournaments aren't seeded consistently. I don't just mean skill wise, but region wise too.
You all know much more than me that it's a MUCH different ball game when a game comes down to two players that consistently practice each other. Sometimes, that can be for like 13th or lower.
Plus sometimes HUGE upsets/DQs can screw with placements as well. (Like an early Ally/Shugo in losers)
My Tournaments for this period
Ni-Kakuto Geemu
Test Your Might X
Nope's Monthly
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEET REQUIREMENTS.
Please add as much as you can.
Any questions" PM me, Text me (614-327-0584), or email me at TheKiest@yahoo.com
Good luck all!
PLEASE BE MORE DETAILED IN YOUR SUBMISSIONS
My List
1st - Shugo - All he does is win win win no matter what.
2nd - Kel - He really just loses to Shugo for the most part.
3rd - Blue Rogue - I really have him tied with Y.b.M at this point. People are learning how to fight this monster.
4th - Y.b.M - Same as last time, really just loses to the players above (and Infern...)
5th - Fizzle - He has taken down just about everyone on this list and places very high, but not enough attendance to bring him to 4th.
6th - AlphaZealot - Pretty much same as last time due to fizzle drastically stepping his game up. Would be 5th otherwise
7th - Infern - Consistent like AZ. The tournes he does place top in, usually only have about 4-5 PR players total. Otherwise I would have him higher.
8th - Fonz - Beating Blue Rouge is what finally seperates him from Z, KB, DJ. Something those 3 have not done yet.
9th - DJ Iskaskribble - Consistently well.... here.
10th - Z - This player is way too good to not be on here. BUT due to his lack of attendance, he loses matchups he shouldn't... yet wins others he shouldn't.
HMS:
KB - I had to knock him down due to him not consistently keeping up with the other 10. Maybe after his "rebirth"
Lou - Very Very Solid Player. He is only beaten by follow smashfielders or by the people above this list.
Links24 - Consistent HM player
Sil - See above
Tako - See above
My Criteria
I personally read this as : "Who are the top 15 players in Ohio?"
Tournament attendance is great and all, but we all know that most of Smashfield, Quivo, OS, Z, and Smash64 are still powerhouses compared to some of these newer HMs.
I personally do this:
1) Is the player active (by our active rule)?
2) Has this player beaten anyone on the current PR lists (as in across states)?
3) How often has the player beaten the PR player on the list?
4) How often IN THIS PERIOD has the player beaten the PR player on the list?
5) Tournament Placements this period.
6) How often has this player lost to players NOT on this list?
Simply put.... I look at: "What would the results be in a 15 man pool? Does this list reflect their tournament performances?"
My problem with using results as the main argument is that some tournaments aren't seeded consistently. I don't just mean skill wise, but region wise too.
You all know much more than me that it's a MUCH different ball game when a game comes down to two players that consistently practice each other. Sometimes, that can be for like 13th or lower.
Plus sometimes HUGE upsets/DQs can screw with placements as well. (Like an early Ally/Shugo in losers)
My Tournaments for this period
Ni-Kakuto Geemu
Test Your Might X
Nope's Monthly
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEET REQUIREMENTS.
Please add as much as you can.
Any questions" PM me, Text me (614-327-0584), or email me at TheKiest@yahoo.com
Good luck all!
Infern Angelis
Smash Master
Thats a horrible list Kiest, but ill let it pass cause what you said about Shugo made me laugh
KassandraNova
Smash Master
It's a list that's based off of past tournaments, and is meant to be an example for panelists that are applying. :O
So chill out my bra.
So chill out my bra.
Y.b.M.
Smash Master
No, that's his list for these current power rankings...
Infern Angelis
Smash Master
My post stands firm
Mister Eric
Twitch.tv/MisterbeepEric Twitter: @MisterbeepEric
where the beep am i at on there?!
D:
D:
Infern Angelis
Smash Master
Because the KY powerankings starts right after our HM's finish
Blue Rogue
Smash Ace
I am not a make-up. ;<
But when did this happen? Last time I can remember was '09... Seriously might have forgot.
TheKiest
Smash Champion
@Blue: No, I ****ed up there too. Every so often someone at a tournament will say something that I mishear as "Fonz beat Blue". I still would put him at 8th.
@Infern + Y.b.M.: I'll gladly step down if people/panelists don't think I'm qualified for this. The old group asked me to, which I even questioned if I was qualified to do so. There might be/probably are better options than myself now.
@Kass: Yes it was meant as an example using my own list from last period.
@Infern + Y.b.M.: I'll gladly step down if people/panelists don't think I'm qualified for this. The old group asked me to, which I even questioned if I was qualified to do so. There might be/probably are better options than myself now.
@Kass: Yes it was meant as an example using my own list from last period.
Y.b.M.
Smash Master
No, No, No Keist. I'm not implying that at all. I feel you don't have an unbiased mindset. But I personally don't understand how Fizzle can be concluded to be ranked higher than Infern. Baby Bro Fizzle has done a great job, but Infern has been more active on the PRs and even held the number 1 spot at one point in time. I don't know how most of you all do your rankings, but I personally take a lot of time to do mine and research.
I kinda feel as if most of the list are based off of feelings. Results should do all the talking, not hearing things through the grapevine or assumptions.
I personally feel like most of the people who are inactive as panelist are qualified. Nothing against the players in Ohio but ALOT of you all are super biased or have jaded decisions and I wouldn't feel comfortable having them judge who is the best players in OH. That's just being real. I know we are kinda short on panelist but I think it might be really hard to find another solid panelist.
I kinda feel as if most of the list are based off of feelings. Results should do all the talking, not hearing things through the grapevine or assumptions.
I personally feel like most of the people who are inactive as panelist are qualified. Nothing against the players in Ohio but ALOT of you all are super biased or have jaded decisions and I wouldn't feel comfortable having them judge who is the best players in OH. That's just being real. I know we are kinda short on panelist but I think it might be really hard to find another solid panelist.
Infern Angelis
Smash Master
What ja'mel said is true, you are unbiased kiest and would gladly want you to stay as a panelist. I just wanted clarification as to why you our fizzle over me. Since till this time, he has yet to beat me, and we have had alot of current sets. No offense to frizzle of course
Fizzle_Boy
Smash Ace
In this ranking period I think my record was something like this: Kel 0-1, Blue Rouge 2-1, Y.b.M 0-1, Infren 0-1, AZ 1-1, Scribbs 2-0. I got a lot of my wins against OoS people (and one of my loses to Lain) but I think I did okay overall. But you can have the #5 spot if you want it, it will make my wins look that much more impressive. 
Y.b.M.
Smash Master
Fizzle shut up...Nothing is given it's earned so, it is what it is...
Eddie G
Smash Hero
Fizzle with the smack attack! I love it...lol.
I have to agree with Ja'mel on this. There is some bias in Ohio...that is a fact, although after hanging around with a lot of you enough, I can tell it's unintentional and I'm sure there are a couple of people who's views and evaluation methods can positively develop over time. That's my two cents on it, anyway.
Good luck to all participants.
I have to agree with Ja'mel on this. There is some bias in Ohio...that is a fact, although after hanging around with a lot of you enough, I can tell it's unintentional and I'm sure there are a couple of people who's views and evaluation methods can positively develop over time. That's my two cents on it, anyway.
Good luck to all participants.
TheKiest
Smash Champion
That "bias" opinion exists in everyone. (Hence why we want multiple panelists from multiple areas). I'll even admit I'm a little bias towards smashfield (I think most of them are just as good if not better than before they mostly went inactive).
When we "practice"/"have smashfests" we always give an exploded view of the players we are up against more frequently.
@Infern: It ain't about sets alone. My "feeling" comes from actually watching you guys play against better opponents. It might be premature on my part, but it always seems like Fizzle is in more control of his matches than you are. Then this last period, you beat the usual people while losing to the usual people (if they were even at the IN tournaments). While Fizzle upsetted people from other areas.
I know winning an entire set is important, but going to game 5 against Lain down to last stock, last hit.... when you are HM on the Ohio PR... is considered an upset in my book.
When we "practice"/"have smashfests" we always give an exploded view of the players we are up against more frequently.
@Infern: It ain't about sets alone. My "feeling" comes from actually watching you guys play against better opponents. It might be premature on my part, but it always seems like Fizzle is in more control of his matches than you are. Then this last period, you beat the usual people while losing to the usual people (if they were even at the IN tournaments). While Fizzle upsetted people from other areas.
I know winning an entire set is important, but going to game 5 against Lain down to last stock, last hit.... when you are HM on the Ohio PR... is considered an upset in my book.
Infern Angelis
Smash Master
I took All y to last game last stock(mid damage), put that in your book!