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☆ I agree, it's more like 20-80 for Captain Falcon. =P ☆Discuss. This disturbing development PROVES that indeed, the matchup is worse than 30-70 for Captain Falcon.
It's more like 50-50 Mewtario.☆ I agree, it's more like 20-80 for Captain Falcon. =P ☆
Actually, Fair hits above Marth as well...Out of all the Random erroneous contradicting stuff you've said, I have to agree with you here. Marth isn't harder than MK. At least Marth can be gimped with Bair. MK can't, at least not as easily.
Marth Spaces with F-air. We can approach from above and stuff. True that Marth can hit us with Up-B, but Marth's Up B isn't as hurtful as MK's up-b.
Marth's overwhelming at first, but with enough experience, it could be manageable. MK's straight up ****. True that some MK's have given us enough reasons why it's not in winnable. And, it isn't AS BAD as it used to be to fight a MK, even though we might not win it; but still, Marth is way easier than MK.
I'm not saying that the metagame changes overnight, I'm saying that the tier list signifies that the metagame has changed. It...it's sort of hard for me to put in words.Except that tier lists just reflect the changing metagame. The metagame itself does not change overnight because a new list came out, and as such, many of these matchups will still be accurate, and there's only some of the older and more contravertial ones to redo.
(Also, yeah, I think MK26 honestly does a good job with this thread, and if a new one would be made, either he, Bunny, or Viper should be doing it, not that a new one is necessary.)
What's wrong with keeping this Thread? Definitly keep it alive if we redo it. And forsure wait a while else ittl just be a clone more or less. I personally would like to see all of the overviews finished.Does anyone object to me doing the next thread? I think we should do it after the next tier list comes out (tier list=general indicator that metagame has changed), and rediscussing every matchup in this thread would become messy.
Edit: POST900!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktuj9XhuvNI @2:20 Kirby's f-smash clanks with Marth's f-smash.Wait... which of Marth's moves clank with those you mentioned? I've never even seen any of my moves (with Mario or Kirby for that matter) clank with Marth's moves (Not saying it can't happen, but I've never seen it.).
The bad thing about keeping this thread would be that we'd still have the same OP, unless the mods did something like they did with the kirby video archive, and then we'd have these 120+ pages of discussion in our matchup thread while we started anew.What's wrong with keeping this Thread? Definitly keep it alive if we redo it. And forsure wait a while else ittl just be a clone more or less. I personally would like to see all of the overviews finished.
So you guys would rather fight a Metaknight than a Marth, Zelda, or IC?
I agree Kirby IS one of the better vs Metaknight chars in the game but him being a better matchup than Marth, Zelda, and IC doesn't make sense to me.
Metaknight is 1 of 4 chars in the game I would find 40-60 being acceptable for, the next 3 being Snake, ZSS, and G&W.
☆ Well, you almost see the light. Just get her off of one of our worst match up's and then her placement will make since. I mean Zamus is only 40-60 on lagfi and not offline. ☆All in all, it's not a great matchup, but I don't see it as one of our worst.
I'm not just trying to get a sticky thread >.> must...get...sticky thread!Stop trying to remake this just to get a stickied thread.
Thanks for the offer, but I'd like to get all the matchup summaries done first before rediscussing/redoing everything - you can help with that if you'd like.I'm not just trying to get a sticky thread >.> must...get...sticky thread!
I think it'd be more complicated and messy if we did it in here, so I'm suggesting we do a new one. I'm also saying I'd be willing to take the burden upon myself to do all of the work, but I'm not saying I'm the only one who should/can.
Sure. When should I start?Thanks for the offer, but I'd like to get all the matchup summaries done first before rediscussing/redoing everything - you can help with that if you'd like.
Whenever you want to start the summary on Falco. I'll pm you with the template (eventually)Sure. When should I start?
i have posted all the ones i made. I think you're thinking of Ganondorf. Ill get the ones IC3R made asapMaestro, some of the summaries were made in the correct template, but you still didn't post them. I recall Bowser being one of them.
Well, sorta...not really. I have to reformat those.Are the ones IC3R made in the right template? (AKA if some of us want to make one (Not making promises due to a heavy lack of time), is that the template to use?)
She's not hard to combo once you get her in the air though, since she has no good quick aerials, and most of her aerials suck unless sweetspotted. Add this to the fact she has a blind spot below her, and air combos (or even Dthrow follow-ups) shouldn't be that tough...? The reason why I see it as 40-60 is her range of most of her attacks out range Kirby's, and with great killing power, just about all her air moves is dangerous to encounter against and she's hard to combo on when it come's to grabs, and air combo's. That's why I see it as 40-60. ?