Darkslash
Smash Master
Theoretically that's almost impossible. Ganon is evil and Link is good. Unless the demon takes the form of a different person, then yea...but it won't be the same.
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Legend of Zelda The Milk Bar [Archived]
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Darkslash, remember PFZ? The story behind it was that Link sided with Ganondorf (Rabda) because he was loved by all the people, and Link found him to be a powerful and influential person. Lo and behold, he wasn't, and because of Link's naive nature, he failed to recognize this, and thus, was involved (and framed) for Zelda's murder.
I think that's much more reasonable.
[stands guard from a wall of questions regarding the above posted]
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
FINE i'll ask the first one. What the heck is PFZ?
It was a secret project that a few of us were a part of (Darkslash, Skyler, and myself were a few of the members). Basically, we were working on a multimedia Zelda fan project.
PFZ is an acronym for "Project: Future Zelda". It was really **** complex, and we had developed quite a bit of information for it. The project, unfortunately, died. We weren't going to make a game out of it, but rather a novel-length story, artwork, a soundtrack, a graphic novel rendition of the story, and who knows what else? It's a shame that it died.
Darkslash
Smash Master
Your right. Maybe they should have a game where its need that all 3 triforce users need to defeat some massive evil. Make it like the Universal Century Gundam.[IncomingGundamu] The fiercest rivals in any anime have to team up. Then around 1 year later, they beat the **** out of each other...
Legend of Zelda should do that.
See vid when rivalries go to far.
I want to see that in Legend of Zelda form.
I remember PFZ. Good times with creating it and how you had a whgole Zelda game in your head Spire. Too bad I couldn't contribute more to it. I only like a few ideas and that's it. D:
Our story was much more complex though. Link teamed up with Rabda (Ganondorf's first reincarnation as a different person) to obliterate the political "evil" that was running Hyrule - which was Queen Zelda. However, she was in fact trying to save Hyrule from Rabda's reign, but his suave power influenced the people to follow him, and hence, her murder was overshadowed by his induction as King of Hyrule, but Link was still punished for it.
So Queen Zelda was the "evil" that both Link and Rabda teamed up against, but she wasn't evil in the first place.
If you guys want to know what happens in the end, Link teams up with the Rito (Lake Zora, after Lake Hylia dried up, forcing the Zora to pray for survival, with divine intervention forcing them to evolve) Matriarch, Urxiala, and the Goron Patiarch of Snowpeak City, Darona and their combined forces to take down Rabda in Hyrule City. After being defeated in human form, Rabda transforms into Ganon, and is ****ing HUGE. Fighting on the streets of Hyrule City, Link, Urxiala, Darona, and Ganon tear buildings up. Link has to use a large variety of his equipment to defeat Ganon, clawshotting (which can swing around like Spiderman) from building to building to land on Ganon to hack at him.
Eventually, with the help of Urxiala's flight, and Darona's rolling around, tearing up his legs, Link lands on Ganon and drives his sword into his Skull, but Ganon is on a charging path right into Hyrule Castle (keep in mind, it's a giant corporate tower, as this is in the future). Ganon's maddened rage destroy the foundations, bringing the castle down on both he and Link, cutting off the Triforce of Power, Courage, and previously Wisdom. The Triforce is finally whole and sealed away in the Sacred Realm, and Urxiala is crowned as Queen of Hyrule.
Darkslash
Smash Master
EDIT:NVM Its back on top
P:FZ was fun while it lasted.
P:FZ was fun while it lasted.
M3WTW0 J0SH
Smash Cadet
That's why I said I probably won't get my wish.
Wishful thinking is just it. Nothing more.
Try between Oracle of Seasons and Ages. He sets sail at the end of each game in a boat that looks identical to that in the intro to LA. He sets sail to either Holodrum or Labrynna. There's about a 99% chance that LA takes place on this sea, because, like c3gill said, it starts and ends at sea.
Or anywhere relative to Wind Waker or Phantom Hourglass, seeing how they're both based entirely on the sea.
Plus, LoZ/AoL is based in a Hyrule with a lot of water, including a sea to the east.
Being based right after Majora's Mask does not work, because Link does not set sail at the end of it, he goes back to Hyrule via Lost Woods.
Darkslash
Smash Master
Huh? I thought A Link to the Past Happens before LoZ. Also it makes sense of Loz and Loz 2 were in the Adult/Wind Waker Time line because the 6 sage's were never awakened in the Child/Majora time line. So why name towns after some what nobodies?
M3WTW0 J0SH
Smash Cadet
I would bother to make a timeline, but that means I'd have to play through all of them, and I've only beaten WindWaker.
I'm deprived of a N64/NES/SNES
I'm deprived of a N64/NES/SNES
But you deserve to play them. Go get Ocarina of Time!
Darkslash
Smash Master
Odly enough Majora's Mask is the only Loz console game not on the VC...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae89sovYzqM
M3WTW0 J0SH
Smash Cadet
I can make it much creepier. Put the music in G major.
Do you think I should? It'd only take me a couple minutes.
Well, neither Wind Waker, Four Swords Adventures, or Twilight Princess are on it, but they don't particularly apply.
Grunt
Smash Master
Spire how do you justify your time line on the first page? It seems kind of strange.
Link left Hyrule to search for Navi. He did not find her, so why would he go back?
I think he would still be searching for Navi until he hears word of the war in Hyrule and that Ganon has taken over. He then decides to return to Hyrule via the sea (There are seas in every other Zelda game) Shipwrecked, (The LA adventure is a dream/ doesn't matter anyway) he floats back (I would assume) to Hyrule, but deprived of all his equipment (He was shipwrecked, remember?) Therefore, it would make sense that when Link got back to Hyrule he needed to regain all of his equipment.
I think he would still be searching for Navi until he hears word of the war in Hyrule and that Ganon has taken over. He then decides to return to Hyrule via the sea (There are seas in every other Zelda game) Shipwrecked, (The LA adventure is a dream/ doesn't matter anyway) he floats back (I would assume) to Hyrule, but deprived of all his equipment (He was shipwrecked, remember?) Therefore, it would make sense that when Link got back to Hyrule he needed to regain all of his equipment.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Why WOULDN'T he go back?
Everyone he knows is in Hyrule
Apparently, he spent his time with Zelda for a while before he went to find Navi
I think he fell for adult her during his time in the future
What? Firstly, how could Ganon take over if he is banished to the Twilight Realm at the time that Link is in Termina? Secondly, how would he hear word of what's going on in Hyrule if a) Termina is in an alternate dimension, and b) no one in Termina ever speaks a word of Hyrule throughout Majora's Mask?
Your logic is flawed and slathered in pretense.
When is there a mention of Ganon being banished to the...Twilight realm...in MM?
Nothing is ever mentioned about what specifically happens to Ganon in the Child ending. Supposedly, the King is told of Ganon's evil intentions.
You think Ganon would just say, "Aw shoot, you caught me" and give up? No he would fight. And since Link isn't there anymore, he would win.
Also, whether Link Returns to Hyrule immediately after MM or not, he has to leave the alternate dimension Termina is in somehow.
Nothing is ever mentioned about what specifically happens to Ganon in the Child ending. Supposedly, the King is told of Ganon's evil intentions.
You think Ganon would just say, "Aw shoot, you caught me" and give up? No he would fight. And since Link isn't there anymore, he would win.
Also, whether Link Returns to Hyrule immediately after MM or not, he has to leave the alternate dimension Termina is in somehow.
I will just focus on the part of this that is screwed up with LA-
The seas are NOT in every game. But LA starts at sea and ends at sea.... even in the dream. Remember when the Wind Fish wakes up at the end? Link, while floating on some wood, sees the Wind Fish and Marin- it was all part of the Wind Fish's dream, but it was reality for Link. And everything in the dream was real.
I believe LA belongs between Lttp and the Oracle games, or somewhere with WW and PH. not anywhere near MM.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
In TP, it is mentioned that Ganon is shortly banished after Link returns to the child era and the whole events in the adult timeline never happened.
It is shown in Twilight Princess that Ganondorf was taken and executed by The Sages (but not those awoken by Adult Link in Ocarina of Time). Don't you think that if Link were there, that he would have simply fought and defeated him? But he wasn't, and the forces of Hyrule were still able to capture him. Link isn't some god, and he has no superpowers - only the Triforce of Courage, which gives him an infinite amount of courage to press on and defeat Ganondorf. Ganondorf is human, he's not a god. He can be defeated by anyone who can overpower him.
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
Spire has a new timeline, so I need to post so he doesn't double post.
Scott!
Smash Lord
Interesting. I thought the oracles and LA were after ALttP, but Link adventuring around post MM fits too.
I feel that it's more fitting to place them after ALttP too, but right now, I'm liking the idea of them being based after MM. There are about as many reasons to support both theories, so it's pretty interchangeable.
OoS-LA-OoA can be seen as an arc now.
M3WTW0 J0SH
Smash Cadet
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Rather than scary...It looks more like "Oot Intro while on acid or shrooms"
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Yay! first viewer!
M3WTW0 J0SH
Smash Cadet
I might change it to that after a while. I should make more of those type of videos.
Scott!
Smash Lord
Hm, I'm actually liking the idea of LA Link being the OoT and MM one. There are a few things in LA that would make best sense in a dream of that Link. Marin and Tarin are clearly intended to be similar to Malon and Talon, and Marin also looks like Zelda. That Link had a personal relationship with Zelda moreso than others. Also, LA, OoT, and MM are the only games to feature an ocarina. (ALttP had one, but called it a flute, if I remember correctly). The owl is a dream version of Gaebora Kaepora.
Darkslash
Smash Master
According to A Link to the Past back cover(I'm getting this from wiki, personally I can't remember) in the US, Alttp takes place BEFORE the Legend of Zelda, hence why its called A Link to the Past.
Never mind Miyamoto debunked it. A Link to the past should of been called A Link in the future. Its after LoZ/Loz2.
In that TP cutscene, Ganondorf has the Triforce of Power, which he would not have obtained had that scene directly followed OoT. Ganondorf was still searching for the triforce when Link was a kid, so he would not have had if he was disposed of immediately.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
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