• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Legend of Zelda The Milk Bar [Archived]

Status
Not open for further replies.

PsychoIncarnate

The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
50,641
Location
Char
NNID
PsychoIncarnate
3DS FC
4554-0155-5885
Ohh jeez we're getting people who usually come here XD

Ohh god Imagine a 30's zelda..Link the Gangster.
Zelda in the 1940's or so (World War 2)

Link as an American soldier, Ganon as Adolf Hitler, Zelda as a European Woman who's homeland has been attacked by Nazi soldiers.
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
Although, music isn't the only important component. Look at music in itself, bass isn't the only important component. You need your rythms, and a good melody. You need a good beat. Your tempo is important too.

Look at a game. You can have a GREAT storyline but if the game is virtually un-playable it won't be very fun. You can have a FUN as heck game with a lousy storyline and bad music and it will usually just be labeled as "cheesy"

all elements are important.
While I agree, I think the most important element is gameplay. Tetris - terrible graphics, no storyline, and an 8-bit sound track, but it was one of the greatest games ever, and sold millions of copies.

Zelda Disco!

Ganon and Link have a dance off because Zelda will go out with however wins
"The Legend of Zelda: Dance Dance Revolution"
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
Since when was this thread spammy?

Does nobody else have comments on the timeline?
Personally, I do not believe that any Legend of Zelda was created with a timeline in mind. Unless the games say they are related, there is no reason to believe that the games even take place in the same universes as eachother. They don't lend themselves to timelines well simply because the creators of the franchise did not think continuity between games was important.
 

Jam Stunna

Writer of Fortune
BRoomer
Joined
May 6, 2006
Messages
6,450
Location
Hartford, CT
3DS FC
0447-6552-1484
Yeah, that timeline stuff is just fan made nonsense. If you really have to try to tie the Zeldas together, I think the best way to do that is to think of it as a legend, where it changes each time it's retold (like an oral tradition kind of thing). And even that's a stretch, I just like to think of it that way.
 

SkylerOcon

Tiny Dancer
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
5,216
Location
ATX
Personally, I do not believe that any Legend of Zelda was created with a timeline in mind. Unless the games say they are related, there is no reason to believe that the games even take place in the same universes as eachother. They don't lend themselves to timelines well simply because the creators of the franchise did not think continuity between games was important.
So that's why there are constant references to the other games, right?

^Exactly this.

Even the Zelda guys said that there was NO timeline
And this MUST be why Aonuma said that the Ocarina of Time was the first game in the series chronologically!

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Miyamoto_Order

Also, Miyamoto <3s timelines.

http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1173582355&archive=&start_from=&ucat=19&

And I quote:

–When does Twilight Princess take place?

Aonuma: In the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years later.

–And the Wind Waker?

Aonuma: The Wind Waker is parallel. In Ocarina of Time, Link flew seven years in time, he beat Ganon and went back to being a kid, remember? Twilight Princess takes place in the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years after the peace returned to kid Link’s time. In the last scene of Ocarina of Time, kids Link and Zelda have a little talk, and as a consequence of that talk, their relationship with Ganon takes a whole new direction. In the middle of this game [Twilight Princess], there's a scene showing Ganon's execution. It was decided that Ganon be executed because he'd do something outrageous if they left him be. That scene takes place several years after Ocarina of Time. Ganon was sent to another world and now he wants to obtain the power...
Yes, Zelda has a timeline. Do some research before you say things.
 

PsychoIncarnate

The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
50,641
Location
Char
NNID
PsychoIncarnate
3DS FC
4554-0155-5885
So that's why there are constant references to the other games, right?

And this MUST be why Aonuma said that the Ocarina of Time was the first game in the series chronologically!

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Miyamoto_Order

Also, Miyamoto <3s timelines.

http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1173582355&archive=&start_from=&ucat=19&

And I quote:

Yes, Zelda has a timeline. Do some research before you say things.
Maybe they constantly reference other games for the same reason the new Ninja Turtles series references the 1987 series, even though they don't take place in the same canon.

Because some people are fans of the series and find the inside jokes humerous/ nostalgic/ something else...
 

SkylerOcon

Tiny Dancer
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
5,216
Location
ATX
What you say would probably make sense if Aonuma didn't acknowledge the existence of a timeline in that interview.

And, Miyamoto MADE A TIMELINE which you would have realized if you had read the links.
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
So that's why there are constant references to the other games, right?



And this MUST be why Aonuma said that the Ocarina of Time was the first game in the series chronologically!

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Miyamoto_Order

Also, Miyamoto <3s timelines.

http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1173582355&archive=&start_from=&ucat=19&

And I quote:



Yes, Zelda has a timeline. Do some research before you say things.
Believe it or not, I knew about that. However, I refuse to recognize it as the true Zelda timeline. Even with that explanation, there are continuity holes to account for, such as the radical geological transformation of Hyrule from Ocarina to Twilight which occured in a small 100 years. Besides, even if you do believe in the timeline theory, Ocarina of Time is absolutely not the first game in the series.
 

SkylerOcon

Tiny Dancer
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
5,216
Location
ATX
Believe it or not, I knew about that. However, I refuse to recognize it as the true Zelda timeline. Even with that explanation, there are continuity holes to account for, such as the radical geological transformation of Hyrule from Ocarina to Twilight which occured in a small 100 years. Besides, even if you do believe in the timeline theory, Ocarina of Time is absolutely not the first game in the series.
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Timeline_Quotes#On_Ocarina_of_Time

Miyamoto: Ocarina of Time is the first story, then the original Legend of Zelda, then Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and finally A Link to the Past. It's not very clear where Link's Awakening fits in--it could be anytime after Ocarina of Time.

Hyrule is a magic land which obviously doesn't function the same way as Earth does, so continental drift may function at an incredibly fast rate! Also, giving us a near-clone of the overworld map wouldn't be very fitting for a game now, would it?
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Timeline_Quotes#On_Ocarina_of_Time

Miyamoto: Ocarina of Time is the first story, then the original Legend of Zelda, then Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and finally A Link to the Past. It's not very clear where Link's Awakening fits in--it could be anytime after Ocarina of Time.

Hyrule is a magic land which obviously doesn't function the same way as Earth does, so continental drift may function at an incredibly fast rate! Also, giving us a near-clone of the overworld map wouldn't be very fitting for a game now, would it?
Doesn't Link need to open that Pandora's box thing before he can fight monsters in any of the games?
 

SkylerOcon

Tiny Dancer
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
5,216
Location
ATX
Doesn't Link need to open that Pandora's box thing before he can fight monsters in any of the games?
What are you talking about? If you're referring to things such as the Ocarina of Time or the Wind Waker...

No, he doesn't. Of course, I'm probably confused, so feel free to explain what you meant to me.
 

Skrah

Smash Ace
Joined
Jan 12, 2009
Messages
742
Location
Cantinero, deme mas cermesaa!
That statement was said in what, 99?

BEFORE the release of Minish Cap, which doesn't feature the Hero of Time, but the Hero of Man! Also note that he had no hat. He started using the hat when the talking hat that I forgot his name decided to stay on his head. So all is pointing towards Minish Cap being the first, or at least before OoT

Also..


 

SkylerOcon

Tiny Dancer
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
5,216
Location
ATX
I'm pretty sure Miyamoto or Aonuma would've come out and said 'Hey, guys! Minish Cap comes before Ocarina now!' if that was true.
 

PsychoIncarnate

The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
50,641
Location
Char
NNID
PsychoIncarnate
3DS FC
4554-0155-5885
Believe it or not, I knew about that. However, I refuse to recognize it as the true Zelda timeline. Even with that explanation, there are continuity holes to account for, such as the radical geological transformation of Hyrule from Ocarina to Twilight which occured in a small 100 years. Besides, even if you do believe in the timeline theory, Ocarina of Time is absolutely not the first game in the series.
What's the first game if Ocarina of Time isn't than?
 

Darkslash

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 1, 2008
Messages
4,076
Location
Strangereal Equestria
Or it wouldn't count due to CAPCOM doing the game. For all we know its not canonical, because Nintendo didn't make it like Oracle of Seasons and Ages. But Minish cap should be first at least, mostly because the Hero of Men(man?) doesn't fit the Hero of time criteria.
 

Darkslash

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 1, 2008
Messages
4,076
Location
Strangereal Equestria
**** it just hit me...

What If the Zelda Team isn't making a Zelda game. As crazy as it seems the closest to a zelda game would be....

KID ICARUS...

MY GOD! Fanboys will scream in joy and rage.
OF course it will never happen, but I stockpiled my secret base..
 

c3gill

Smash Ace
Joined
Jan 12, 2009
Messages
951
Location
VA
**** it just hit me...

What If the Zelda Team isn't making a Zelda game. As crazy as it seems the closest to a zelda game would be....

KID ICARUS...

MY GOD! Fanboys will scream in joy and rage.
OF course it will never happen, but I stockpiled my secret base..

this made me cry just thinking about it. i hope i gets a new Zelda game soon :ohwell:
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
I guess I thought Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past was the first in the series.

Incidently, if you want to check on the Zelda game, Nintendo recently obtained a patent involving a complex hint system. I can't remember any details, but a Legend of Zelda game was used as the pictoral examples within the patent.

so unless something else could be meant by "Legend of 00," the patent was most likely for a Zelda game.
 

Scott!

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 25, 2008
Messages
1,575
Location
The Forest Temple
First off, I don't remember where I saw it, but it was said that MC wasn't canon because it, unlike the Oracle games, was made by Capcom. I checked Zelda Wiki, and it confirmed my suspicions, from seeing the Capcom logo so many times, that the Oracle games were indeed made by Capcom. Ctrl+F couldn't find "Capcom" on the Minish Cap page either, for what it's worth...

But there's been a lot of debate over whether there's a timeline. Personally, I only needed two games to convince me, though of course, there's much more concrete proof than what worked on me. I played OoT second in my Zelda experience, after LA, which really doesn't count for much in terms of timeline stuff. And years later, when it was ported to the GBA, I played ALttP. In ALttP, they referenced the seven sages. OoT has seven sages. ALttP has a world corrupted by the darkness of Ganon. OoT last left Ganon in his own world, the Sacred Realm. To me, it's as clear as day that these two games are clearly made to go in sequence, though not in the order they were released. I don't need any other proof. There is a clear order that is shown here.

Concerning the timeline itself, I am as convinced of the fact that it is imperfect as that it exists. Something tells me that any ideas they had when they made LoZ and AoL for the NES have evolved dramatically. The fact that they most likely made it up after making at least one or two games suggests, to me at least, that there are bound to be imperfections. Just as the Hyrule map shows inconsistencies from game to game, which I attribute to artistic license, I believe that, while the games are made to all fit together into one grand storyline, there are going to be at least minor issues.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom