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The Lucas General Discussion
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Tikao
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O.o !!!!!! awesome
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Wow Ryuka that's BIG news!!
Maybe, Akenero. We can't be certain but it's a possibility now.
Maybe, Akenero. We can't be certain but it's a possibility now.
Yoooo J where you at
Tikao
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ok , I've done something weird ...
i got air-released and did a zair-jump / zair zapjump (don't even know , how it's called xD) by just randomly mashing out of the IC cg ... i don't even know how to perform a zair-jump xD ... anyway , know the weird thing ... i just zair-jumped out instantly without any air-release lag ... just in frame 1 of the air-release , where you can't do anything
did anyone knows how i performed this?
if it's something new , it would be awesome against some air-release stuff ... but i don't think you could perform it without random luck ... it depends on your mashing when you got air-released and then instantly perform an zair-jump on like frame 1 or 2 or whatever , don't know how it worked exactly , just in the first frames with air-release-lag-frames or whatever ... the point is it would be useless or you must be VERY good ... or lucky like me
we played without of hacks , so we can't record it
... so i don't know if you believe me , but this was real ... don't even know how to perform it exactly , so it was the first and last time , i've done this
anyway the real question ... how is that possible O.o
i got air-released and did a zair-jump / zair zapjump (don't even know , how it's called xD) by just randomly mashing out of the IC cg ... i don't even know how to perform a zair-jump xD ... anyway , know the weird thing ... i just zair-jumped out instantly without any air-release lag ... just in frame 1 of the air-release , where you can't do anything
did anyone knows how i performed this?
if it's something new , it would be awesome against some air-release stuff ... but i don't think you could perform it without random luck ... it depends on your mashing when you got air-released and then instantly perform an zair-jump on like frame 1 or 2 or whatever , don't know how it worked exactly , just in the first frames with air-release-lag-frames or whatever ... the point is it would be useless or you must be VERY good ... or lucky like me
we played without of hacks , so we can't record it
... so i don't know if you believe me , but this was real ... don't even know how to perform it exactly , so it was the first and last time , i've done this anyway the real question ... how is that possible O.o
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was it on PS1 or something? i'm pretty skeptical... no inputs are taken for a lot of frames once the air release begins, so nothing you input should matter.
but if the grab was broken by something different than the standard grab break, like the floor drop in a ps1 during a transformation, that might be different? although there are recovery frames for that break as well.
but if the grab was broken by something different than the standard grab break, like the floor drop in a ps1 during a transformation, that might be different? although there are recovery frames for that break as well.
Tikao
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it was on bf just normaly on the ground ... and that's what i don't understand , it shouldn't take any inputs ... maybe i buffered the zair-jump 10 frames before i got air-released ... it's just weird
hey J can you pm me when you reg for apex so i can list you as my teammate? =P
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J and pidge as Apex team-mates?
HYPE!!
I have some advice though!! Sincem my bro and i go as double lucas, this applies to Ness-Lucas as well, and you probs already know some of it but...
My suggestion is to have a few code-words that determine when you want to heal in a fussy situation:
"Short" is said by one person and they immkediately use PSI magnet while the other PKTs in to the magnet. obviously you'd magnet cancel and dair or SH PKF or something like that to cover the other person.
"Long" is more of a question. If the otherm person answers "yes" or "okay", you magnet while they direct a PKT or PK Freeze at you.
"Zap" is said by the person using the attack. What it means is 'this attack is being used to hit enemies but if you want to heal from it, you can grab it.'
Those are the basic three. Develop on them, if you want, decide against them if you prefer.
ALSO remember to use and abuse those grab combos. Ness grab while the Lucas Usmashes is super deadly. Be careful to space it so that you hit the person ness is holding and not the Ness himself!
Also Lucas/Ness or double Lucas Dtilt lock is incredible, totally recommend it if you have one person. Or you can just chain grabs.
Oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS!!!
HYPE!!
I have some advice though!! Sincem my bro and i go as double lucas, this applies to Ness-Lucas as well, and you probs already know some of it but...
My suggestion is to have a few code-words that determine when you want to heal in a fussy situation:
"Short" is said by one person and they immkediately use PSI magnet while the other PKTs in to the magnet. obviously you'd magnet cancel and dair or SH PKF or something like that to cover the other person.
"Long" is more of a question. If the otherm person answers "yes" or "okay", you magnet while they direct a PKT or PK Freeze at you.
"Zap" is said by the person using the attack. What it means is 'this attack is being used to hit enemies but if you want to heal from it, you can grab it.'
Those are the basic three. Develop on them, if you want, decide against them if you prefer.
ALSO remember to use and abuse those grab combos. Ness grab while the Lucas Usmashes is super deadly. Be careful to space it so that you hit the person ness is holding and not the Ness himself!
Also Lucas/Ness or double Lucas Dtilt lock is incredible, totally recommend it if you have one person. Or you can just chain grabs.
Oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS!!!
O'chunks
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Hope everyone here had a wonderful Christmas.
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I did, how about you?
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It's been great over here, peeps! ^_^
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my Christmas present was bc got dota
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Mine was that he destroyed my brother and I in doubles friendlies.
That said my brother hasn't played in months so we'll just see...
*psychpsychpsych!*
That said my brother hasn't played in months so we'll just see...
*psychpsychpsych!*
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I still have no fkn how Nido and I won that last game when he died with weegee so early and it was my Lucas vs both of yours...Mine was that he destroyed my brother and I in doubles friendlies.
That said my brother hasn't played in months so we'll just see...
*psychpsychpsych!*
Matter of fact, how did we still win with Nido SDing and hitting me?
lolbrawl.
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Lag didn't help, we often tried to heal and got destroyed for it. =(
Usually one of us would do well and the other would die. >.<
Usually one of us would do well and the other would die. >.<
Jamwa
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Wifi i presume
wifi sucks in aus dont play it ty
wifi sucks in aus dont play it ty
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I know but at the same time, my bro and I need to get back in to shape when it comes to doubles. NO MOAR SLACKING!!!
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What Jamwa said and I blame Nido for the lag and even when it didn't lag it was really obvious.
I don't take wi-fi srs but I prefer it then playing CPUs
I don't take wi-fi srs but I prefer it then playing CPUs
i love siblings that play this game competitively
I got my little brother (as in 22 year old little brother) a wii + brawl + a GCC for christmas and tonight we were practicing, he actually really wants to get good at this. We've teamed before and it'd be fun to do it again. So awesome!
I got my little brother (as in 22 year old little brother) a wii + brawl + a GCC for christmas and tonight we were practicing, he actually really wants to get good at this. We've teamed before and it'd be fun to do it again. So awesome!
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Yea, actually I think I might have been the cause for this bout of lag. At least, in the beginning. :/
O'chunks
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Mine was good. Recieved a lot of love that day.I did, how about you?
In other news, I'm going to a tourney tomorrow. I hope I do well.
O'chunks
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There's a video (2 of them) of his hitboxes on youtube and I remember his frame data being around somewhere. Maybe a little clean-up to make it easier to understand?
Edit: Sorry for the double post.
Edit: Sorry for the double post.
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I'd forgotten for too long that Claus is just an anagram of Lucas. -_-
Lucas frame data is here somewhere. I know how to find it another way though:
1. Go to 'info' at the very top of the page and click on it
2. Go down to 'frame data for every character' or whatever it's called and click on it.
3. Find Lucas and click on the attached thread.
^_^
Lucas frame data is here somewhere. I know how to find it another way though:
1. Go to 'info' at the very top of the page and click on it
2. Go down to 'frame data for every character' or whatever it's called and click on it.
3. Find Lucas and click on the attached thread.
^_^
prOAPC
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hi, i remember this board, do you remember me? :$
happy new year!
happy new year!
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I THINK I remember you pro! Wb!
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Oh and welcome back person
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You put that on every thread didn't you...?
Oh and welcome back person
Tell me you didn't see the western sydney thread.
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No but I'm gonna looked at it now.You put that on every thread didn't you...?
Tell me you didn't see the western sydney thread.
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It's really interesting to note the effects of certain things on people. Just noticing it then, I wasn't bothered, in fact I laughed a little when I first saw you post that, and then if somebody who I thought was doing it because they genuinely didn't like me, i'd actually be annoyed at it.
Sorry, relevant themes, you saw the thread, blah blah you know what i'm talking about. :o
To be honest, I really am feeling a bit low by it.
Sorry, relevant themes, you saw the thread, blah blah you know what i'm talking about. :o
To be honest, I really am feeling a bit low by it.
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I hope you enjoyed it, I'm probably gonna get infracted for it but since it made you laugh it was worth it
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Noooo, don't do that! Edit the post ryuka, the LAST thing I want is for you to get infracted. =(I hope you enjoyed it, I'm probably gonna get infracted for it but since it made you laugh it was worth it
And by the way, I meant the 'Luco sop posting' image.
I did smile at the post you're talking about but for other reasons, most notably that you were trying to cheer me up. ^_^
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Its just an infraction lol.Noooo, don't do that! Edit the post ryuka, the LAST thing I want is for you to get infracted. =(
And by the way, I meant the 'Luco sop posting' image.
I did smile at the post you're talking about but for other reasons, most notably that you were trying to cheer me up. ^_^
And the coincident was funny lol.
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Haha, you're a really great [internet, until we meet in tourney of course! :D] friend, you know.
Mad Duck
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Ugh,I kinda have a problem,it's really stupid anyways,but I can't decide who is my main.
I really love Ness and Lucas,SSBB won't be the same for me without them,but I just can decide who is my main and who is the secondary.
Lucas was my main since I got the game,but I felt sorry for Ness and started maining him this year,but know I feel bad about Lucas.
In-game wise,I feel that I play better with Lucas (Ness seems to be a little more complex to use well) but with Ness I fell I'm better in some specific MUs (like Olimar,Olimar-Lucas is a pain in the butt to me).
When I start comparing the characters I feel when Lucas is bad at something Ness is good at that,and viceversa.So should I stay with Lucas and reserve Ness? plus I'm kinda recognized at being the only one who uses Lucas in tourneys (not to brag of anything I think I suck)
Thank you for reading this stupid rant.lol
I really love Ness and Lucas,SSBB won't be the same for me without them,but I just can decide who is my main and who is the secondary.
Lucas was my main since I got the game,but I felt sorry for Ness and started maining him this year,but know I feel bad about Lucas.
In-game wise,I feel that I play better with Lucas (Ness seems to be a little more complex to use well) but with Ness I fell I'm better in some specific MUs (like Olimar,Olimar-Lucas is a pain in the butt to me).
When I start comparing the characters I feel when Lucas is bad at something Ness is good at that,and viceversa.So should I stay with Lucas and reserve Ness? plus I'm kinda recognized at being the only one who uses Lucas in tourneys (not to brag of anything I think I suck)
Thank you for reading this stupid rant.lol