The Captain Falcon Q&A Thread

[UzakiuzuG]

Anyone else think Melee looks better than Brawl? You know in it's own way. That fast gameplay doesn't fit right with this game for some reason. Falcon will always be the bestttttt no matter what that D---- Sakarai did to Captain Falcon. Also think of it like this once this game is over and done. Hopefully a new Super Smash comes out then everyone will run back to him. The Almighty Falcon will reject everyone of them unless they fought along side him in Brawl. Could they possible make the nxt falcon any worse?

"6 characteristics of a good move." What are those? Speed priority?

 

[Darxmarth23]

Anyone else think Melee looks better than Brawl? You know in it's own way. That fast gameplay doesn't fit right with this game for some reason. Falcon will always be the bestttttt no matter what that D---- Sakarai did to Captain Falcon.



"6 characteristics of a good move." What are those? Speed priority?

1 Speed(post and pre lag, including duration of the move)
2 Range(hitboxes, disjointed or not)
3 Power(Damage)
4 Knockback
5 Hitstun
6 Priority

Falcon has some of these, but they don't go well. For instance, a move with speed, priority, and range could be used as an approach. A move with knockback, and hitstun can be used as a finisher.

You see, falcons moveset lacked the right combination's. But in melee, he did not. All he was really missing was the range(sort of).

 

[illinialex24]

Kill moves just need to have knockback and 1 of the following:

Speed
Hitstun
Range

Priority not really because oftentimes the move won't be clashing with others. Take a look at Snake's U-tilt, it clashes with Jigglypuff's and yet which is a much better kill move?

Take a look at Ike's F-smash, it only has knockback so it isn't a great kill move but his bair has speed and knockback, while his F-tilt has range and knockback, both much better at killing.

 

[Darxmarth23]

These characteristics are the ones I use to evaluate what I should use and when in what situation on what stage. They are just little somethings I came up with, but they help me out.

Like marths F-air. It is different because it is disjointed, has priority, power, speed and range. The only thing it lacks is hitstun.

I should also mention that autocanceling is added in the speed section.

 

[Brave Hippo]

hey, who is the best Falcon in the states?

 

[Roager]

The big names are Champ, Ally... I know there's others, but I'm too tired. One starts with an R, and I'm gonna kick myself for not remembering it when I hear it.

And no, its not Roager.

/bad joke

 

[Player-3]

Roy_R

10chars

 

[Wogrim]

I thought Ally was Canada....

 

[Kishin]

For the knee, does the sweet spot last the whole hit box or does it turn into the flubbed knee after X amount of time?

 

[Darxmarth23]

Roy_R

10chars

Fun to watch him play. And you must put his name in red.

Best Marths:

Roy_R
NEO
Azen

Oh and the falcon main whose name starts with an R is Rebaz talei

 

[Player-3]

Fun to watch him play. And you must put his name in red.

Best Marths:

Roy_R
NEO
Azen

Oh and the falcon main whose name starts with an R is Rebaz talei

hes not in the states though

 

[Face124]

For the knee, does the sweet spot last the whole hit box or does it turn into the flubbed knee after X amount of time?

Yes. It is only possible to sweet spot in the first few frames, although we don't know how many. Go the the compendium and find the guide to the Knee there, it'll tell you loads of stuff.

I would link to it but I'm on my iPod.

 

[Darxmarth23]

hes not in the states though

He isn't? My bad dudes!

 

[illinialex24]

Yeah Neo is probably the best Marth in the states I believe.

Roy_R is Europe but great.

 

[Player-3]

i meant rebaz

 

[SmashBrother2008]

Yes. It is only possible to sweet spot in the first few frames, although we don't know how many. Go the the compendium and find the guide to the Knee there, it'll tell you loads of stuff.

I would link to it but I'm on my iPod.

Yes, you can see the sweetspot frames as Captain Falcon "lurches" forward for those few frames. It's really neat.

 

[thanortinzak]

Why is Captain Failcon said to be the worst character in Brawl?

 

[t3h n00b]

Why is Captain Failcon said to be the worst character in Brawl?

I have a question out of curiousity. Why was Captain Falcon placed low in the Tier list?

Lol. There were answers a few pages back, but pretty much it's this:
- no projectile
- no safe approaches
- best ko moves are unreliable
- recovery is severely limited against invincibility frames on the edge
- generally bad priority and range

And there's probably stuff I forgot

 

[Noodlehead]

Yeah Neo is probably the best Marth in the states I believe.

Roy_R is Europe but great.

im pretty sure royr live in texas. i need to ditto him one of these days, his falcon looks sick

 

[Z1GMA]

Isn't wearing a helmet pretty....... UNmanly? O_o
Seriously..

 

[Zeallyx]

Isn't wearing a helmet pretty....... UNmanly? O_o
Seriously..

Well, if one wears a helmet to prevent headaches/braindamage, then yes, one can say that such precaution is not very courageous. But, one must understand that captain falcon can never suffer from said problem(s), so his helmet is purely there because it can be.

 

[t3h n00b]

Isn't wearing a helmet pretty....... UNmanly? O_o
Seriously..

If Falcon were to take off his helmet, the air that he exhaled would be released into the atmosphere. Too many manly air particles would lead to more and more manly people (although still far less manly than Captain Falcon). Eventually, this false manliness epidemic would spread to undeserving people, like Pit. Now we wouldn't want that to happen

 

[Z1GMA]

-Ok...
So he's wearing a helmet to protect his manlyness then..

I wonder if he has some sort of "ding dong"-protector :?

 

[Zeallyx]

-Ok...
So he's wearing a helmet to protect his manlyness then..

I wonder if he has some sort of "ding dong"-protector :?

No.
He wears the helmet because he can, and he obviously gave the people who have the honour of looking at him too much credit, as he believes everyone is bound to know that he cannot suffer any head injuries/brain damage, making his helmet moot. He only wears it because he can.

And falcons ding dong is made of diamond. 24/7.

Its in a heavily guarded museum. No need to wear a ding dong protector when its kept in a heavily guarded museum.
(yes, he has a detachable *****.)

 

[illinialex24]

Oh Knee, I should have a recent video of my Falcon where I hadn't played in a week and it was wifi but besides the beginning being pretty horrid, it isn't half bad. Not great either but....

 

[Kishin]

Am I the only Falcon here who LOVES to back flip? It's plain fun to back flip over projectiles and it gives you the option of B-air for an approach. Not to mention you could reverse a falcon punch if they like to roll behind you when you approach.

 

[eRonin]

I back-flip away from the opponent as I dash towards them in an attempt to throw them off my real approach vector. Works most of the time with single hit nair or uair =P
I don't back-flip towards them... I just short hop rar when I bair approach...

 

[RjPunch]

HOw do you sweetspot a bair?

 

[Player-3]

HOw do you sweetspot a bair?

same way as a fair.... but backwards

 

[illinialex24]

Yeah just hit them initially with it. Not very hard.

 

[hdrevolution123]

Yeah just hit them initially with it. Not very hard.

But sweetspotting a fair is a tad harder than sweetspotting a bair IMO

 

[illinialex24]

But sweetspotting a fair is a tad harder than sweetspotting a bair IMO

Of course, moves differ on how to do it but the sweetspot method is the same every time. Just hit them with the initial frames for the vast majority of moves. Jigglypuff's U-smash can be an exception.

 

[Zeallyx]

The frames needed in order for falcons Fair to sweetspot (or rather, the position one needs to be in, as in, close to your opponent) are very hard to actually pull off due to brawls engine/defensive system.

Mindgames are all that can net you a guaranteed/easier knee (or a broken shield, or a grab release on wario.). Wich makes falcons Fair harder to use effectively than most other sweetspotting moves.

also, the fact falcons Fair doesnt auto cancel doesnt help it, either.

Regardless, every good falcon must be able to pull off knees consistently, for punishing.

 

[SuSa]

To lazy to search (le gasp) so...

Any moves that put opponent into a jab-lock like state? (back hit of uair, weak hit knee, weak hit bair?) weak hit bairs may allow a jab lock, not sure if Falcon's jab hits EVERYONE or ANYONE... thats why I ask.

I like to make them FORCE getup for an easy hit/grab. (sweetspotted knee anyone?)

 

[Kishin]

Is falcon better on wi-fi than offline? Err, I'm sure all characters are hurt by wi-fi but is Captain Falcon hurt on a lesser extent compared to most of the other characters or no?

Also, be Careful.

 

[Face124]

Mic, yes there are:

Tilt lock.
U-air lock.
B-air lock.

A few more attacks have jab locking properties, like D-air and flub'd Knee, but cannot actually be a jab lock, as SH'ing them again is too slow (and aren't that good anyway).

And btw, you don't even have to search, the sticked compendium has most useful threads.


Kishin, I play both, but I find that Falcon is easier for me offline, however, I bet everyone maining any character says that. Projectiles are harder to get past on wi-fi, and that just makes approaching harder.

 

[RjPunch]

Okay quick question, are any falcons other than me are going to LasT Smash 3?

 

[Kishin]

At low percents, off stage D-air -> footstool possible combo? I think I did it on accident.

 

[eRonin]

^Can you try to recreate it and catch footage? Maybe it's good for a quick last stock kill if you follow the footstool with a fast-fall dair...

 

[Noodlehead]

At low percents, off stage D-air -> footstool possible combo? I think I did it on accident.

sounds weird but probably
i know you can definitely fair>footstool and bair>footstool