The Best Players.

[choknater]

welcome to smashboards

 

[TheZhuKeeper]

Even though M2K's largely considered the best overall, I disagree. His mastery of the majority of the high tiers is respectable, but that's about it. Anyway, here's my take on a top ten;

1. Mango
2. Hungrybox
3. HugS
4. Darkrain
5. Colbol
6. SilentSpectre
7. DaShizWiz
8. Calle W
9. Tang
10. Forward

I mostly base this on their overall performances in tourneys and their playing style, and as you can see, I'm not a Puff hater. Mindgames also play a role, and that's pretty much why I placed HugS as high as the third place. He's by no means a bad player, but his Samus mostly relies on the genius that his mindgames are, and not his work ethic. Phanna's is far superior, unlike his mindgames, which aren't that much. Consider this for the others, too. HugS and Phanna are merely examples.

Good ****.

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[Dr Peepee]

yo I'm pissed zhu isn't on that list

his combo videos ****!

 

[Fly_Amanita]

And Zelgadis, too.

tisk tisk

 

[DippnDots]

what about Clod Zero? Are you all forgetting the worlds best falcon?

 

[choknater]

id still put isai at the top of my list, he's still the best even though he sandbags/just plays 64 now

 

[-ACE-]

Psshhh... best samus is easily Mike Nasty.

 

[choknater]

nah man

Wes Aka Nyz Finest Aka Das Finest Aka Azen Slayer Aka Ken Slayer

(i saw something like this in his sig before.)

 

[HugS™]

Even though M2K's largely considered the best overall, I disagree. His mastery of the majority of the high tiers is respectable, but that's about it. Anyway, here's my take on a top ten;

1. Mango
2. Hungrybox
3. HugS
4. Darkrain
5. Colbol
6. SilentSpectre
7. DaShizWiz
8. Calle W
9. Tang
10. Forward

I mostly base this on their overall performances in tourneys and their playing style, and as you can see, I'm not a Puff hater. Mindgames also play a role, and that's pretty much why I placed HugS as high as the third place. He's by no means a bad player, but his Samus mostly relies on the genius that his mindgames are, and not his work ethic. Phanna's is far superior, unlike his mindgames, which aren't that much. Consider this for the others, too. HugS and Phanna are merely examples.

LOL wow

That'd be cool.

"1. Mango, 2. Hbox, 3. M2k, 4. PP, 5. Jman..." = not funny
"1. Pika69, 2. FastFox 87, 3. Me, 4. Mariomaster 99" = not funny.

This list is like the perfect amount of funny.

 

[glys]

@HugS
Awesome, the man himself. Your Samus is too good. Too good. Also; Fumi. :3

 

[Beat!]

@glys

So now the person with the best mindgames is the best by default?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tByy6lrImX8

M2K mindgames like a SHARK, so obviously he's the best by your logic .

On a serious note, I highly doubt M2K is "considered the best overall". It's not 2007.

 

[glys]

Yes, Armada did lose to Hbox. One word: Puff. Lelz.

 

[glys]

@BeatStick

I've never said that. I said that both are important, but that even a powerhouse with a less competent brain will lose to the weaker yet smarter. Intelligence is key in my opinion. No pun intended.

 

[Beat!]

Interesting theory. Is it somehow connected with amsah, armada and m2k not being on your list? I can't think of any other reasons.

And maybe you should wait with putting calle w on the list until after BEAST...

 

[joeplicate]

^^this guy glys is on a rampage lolol

 

[NeutralDamage]

I think it's mango

 

[glys]

Lol, I'm not Mango. I'm new to these forums, and happen to have a slightly off-course opinion.

 

[glys]

@joeplicate
In what sense? o_O

 

[glys]

Not at all. I simply flat-out don't think they're the best. They ARE among the best, but not in my top ten. Mindgames form the line between work ethic for me, but I'm open for the opinion of others.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

Even though M2K's largely considered the best overall, I disagree. His mastery of the majority of the high tiers is respectable, but that's about it. Anyway, here's my take on a top ten;

1. Mango
2. Hungrybox
3. HugS
4. Darkrain
5. Colbol
6. SilentSpectre
7. DaShizWiz
8. Calle W
9. Tang
10. Forward

I mostly base this on their overall performances in tourneys and their playing style, and as you can see, I'm not a Puff hater. Mindgames also play a role, and that's pretty much why I placed HugS as high as the third place. He's by no means a bad player, but his Samus mostly relies on the genius that his mindgames are, and not his work ethic. Phanna's is far superior, unlike his mindgames, which aren't that much. Consider this for the others, too. HugS and Phanna are merely examples.

For a second i thought this was the you laugh you lose thread. i was quite confused.

 

[glys]

@Bl@ckChris
>Implying that this is not merely an opinion.

 

[t3h Icy]

Yes, but your opinion is bad.

Also it can't be Mango since his posts are in English.

 

[Beat!]

Not at all. I simply flat-out don't think they're the best. They ARE among the best, but not in my top ten. Mindgames form the line between work ethic for me, but I'm open for the opinion of others.

"Work ethic"?

Armada wrecks european tournaments, and tops international ones (Mango, Hbox, Amsah and SS being the only ones he's lost against in tournament so far). Better than the majority of players in your list until proven otherwise.

Amsah is europes #2, destroys the rest of europe as well, and is, if not as good, then only slightly behind Armada. Pound 4 is, so far, the only international tournament he's entered (correct me if I'm wrong), and he got 3rd place. Better than the majority of players in your list until proven otherwise.

M2K gets at least top 4 in almost all tournaments he enters, losing to very few players. Better than the majority of players in your list until proven otherwise.


Shiz is almost retired, calle w has yet to prove himself internationally, and Hugs, darkrain, colbol, SS, Tang and Forward never make it as far as Amsah, Armada and/or M2K in large tournaments.


And Amsah got some pretty damn good mindgames anyway, so he should be on your list either way (not that M2K and Armada shouldn't, but it's true that they rely more on combos).

 

[SSBMLahti]

@Bl@ckChris
>Implying that this is not merely an opinion.

Don't keep making like 8 seperate posts in a row, put it all in one post/learn to multiquote, 'cause you took up like 3/4 of the last page...

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

Glys is awesome! His avatar ***** too.

Glys, i'll give you a little laydown on why your list is wrong, you're probably just watching a buncha random videos and seeing good mindgame players, which is cool. But before you just namelessly think who's good, you'll want to see where all these good players are placing in tournaments. A lot of the people you named off haven't taken top 10 in a BIG tournament in a little while, while others don't even seem to play that often anymore.

1. Mango [good call]
2. Hungrybox [good call]
3. HugS [hugs is very very good, like top20 in my opinion, but he's not placing top 10 in the biggest tournaments.]
4. Darkrain [he hardly seems to play anymore, and he doesn't place high in big tournaments]
5. Colbol [he has a very sexy looking playstyle which might fool you, but his lack of experience out of state throws off his current potential. He isn't currently top 10.]
6. SilentSpectre [he's amazing, but i can't say he's top 10..close though]
7. DaShizWiz [This actually fits kinda well, just not in comparison to the rest of the list. He basically places like 7th-9th at all the big tournaments.]
8. Calle W [He's doing decent in europe..always in Grand Finals against armada. until he comes here it's all speculation, everyone saw colbol like this before he came outside of florida.]
9. Tang [lol]
10. Forward [too oldschool still a beast but not top 10]

If you want a decent idea of who's currently the top, look at the top 10 results for Apex 2010, Pound 4, and Revival of Melee 3. [Don't forget about Europeans! They are beast.]

if you're trolling, cool i wasted my time but whatevzzzzz

 

[_lemons]

Calle W and no Armada is great

 

[Juno McGrath]

Glys is awesome! His avatar ***** too.

Glys, i'll give you a little laydown on why your list is wrong, you're probably just watching a buncha random videos and seeing good mindgame players, which is cool. But before you just namelessly think who's good, you'll want to see where all these good players are placing in tournaments. A lot of the people you named off haven't taken top 10 in a BIG tournament in a little while, while others don't even seem to play that often anymore.

1. Mango [good call]
2. Hungrybox [good call]
3. HugS [hugs is very very good, like top20 in my opinion, but he's not placing top 10 in the biggest tournaments.]
4. Darkrain [he hardly seems to play anymore, and he doesn't place high in big tournaments]
5. Colbol [he has a very sexy looking playstyle which might fool you, but his lack of experience out of state throws off his current potential. He isn't currently top 10.]
6. SilentSpectre [he's amazing, but i can't say he's top 10..close though]
7. DaShizWiz [This actually fits kinda well, just not in comparison to the rest of the list. He basically places like 7th-9th at all the big tournaments.]
8. Calle W [He's doing decent in europe..always in Grand Finals against armada. until he comes here it's all speculation, everyone saw colbol like this before he came outside of florida.]
9. Tang [lol]
10. Forward [too oldschool still a beast but not top 10]

If you want a decent idea of who's currently the top, look at the top 10 results for Apex 2010, Pound 4, and Revival of Melee 3. [Don't forget about Europeans! They are beast.]

if you're trolling, cool i wasted my time but whatevzzzzz

and no peepe. lol.

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

Lol i'm beyond who he missed, considering only 2 of those placings are right, there's 8 top level players we're missing here.
while im here might as well contribute;

Lambchops
DaShiz
SleepyK
Sion
Mango
WeonX
Javi
Hugs
Twin
Colbol

****

 

[LLDL]

When was the last time tang won a singles tourney lol

 

[glys]

Yes, but your opinion is bad.

Also it can't be Mango since his posts are in English.

So, my opinion is bad based on the sole fact that you think it is, which is also an opinion, which contradicts the entire essence of an opinion? o_O Cool story bro. |)

 

[hungrybox]

Yes, Armada did lose to Hbox. One word: Puff. Lelz.

shut up already

 

[Druggedfox]

Puff is a pretty terrible character.

 

[glys]

"Work ethic"?

Armada wrecks european tournaments, and tops international ones (Mango, Hbox, Amsah and SS being the only ones he's lost against in tournament so far). Better than the majority of players in your list until proven otherwise.

Amsah is europes #2, destroys the rest of europe as well, and is, if not as good, then only slightly behind Armada. Pound 4 is, so far, the only international tournament he's entered (correct me if I'm wrong), and he got 3rd place. Better than the majority of players in your list until proven otherwise.

M2K gets at least top 4 in almost all tournaments he enters, losing to very few players. Better than the majority of players in your list until proven otherwise.


Shiz is almost retired, calle w has yet to prove himself internationally, and Hugs, darkrain, colbol, SS, Tang and Forward never make it as far as Amsah, Armada and/or M2K in large tournaments.


And Amsah got some pretty damn good mindgames anyway, so he should be on your list either way (not that M2K and Armada shouldn't, but it's true that they rely more on combos).

So, should we mostly base our opinions on the amount of victories a player has claimed, or on their actual skill, and not the thousands of match-ups possible within the wide range of characters players play? Remember, I'm on everybody's side, opening up my ears to everyone and being as open-minded as I can. On another note; ''work ethic is a set of values based on hard work and diligence. It is also a belief in the moral benefit of work and its ability to enhance character (lolirony).'' As stated on Wikipedia. Featured article: ''How do I shot Google?''

 

[glys]

Don't keep making like 8 seperate posts in a row, put it all in one post/learn to multiquote, 'cause you took up like 3/4 of the last page...

I'm sorry. I'm 15, have autism and am new to forums. :3

 

[glys]

shut up already

Lol, that was in no way meant to be offensive. *huff, puff*

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

Not by how many victories they have, but how well they are placing at the current tournaments they attend.

Someone shouldn't have to win for 3 years to be considered better than mango if he quit with 3 years of winning under his belt IMO.

" or on their actual skill, and not the thousands of match-ups possible within the wide range of characters players play?"

How would you judge their 'actual skill' then?

There also isn't a wide range of characters like you're visioning. top 10 in big tournaments is the top/high tier characters with ocassional mid tiers and even more rarely 1 low tier.

Glys, don't post twice in a row. if you see no one else has posted after you, which is easy to tell, hit 'edit' under your post. You just said sorry for it then did it literally 5 seconds later

 

[glys]

Glys is awesome! His avatar ***** too.

Glys, i'll give you a little laydown on why your list is wrong, you're probably just watching a buncha random videos and seeing good mindgame players, which is cool. But before you just namelessly think who's good, you'll want to see where all these good players are placing in tournaments. A lot of the people you named off haven't taken top 10 in a BIG tournament in a little while, while others don't even seem to play that often anymore.

1. Mango [good call]
2. Hungrybox [good call]
3. HugS [hugs is very very good, like top20 in my opinion, but he's not placing top 10 in the biggest tournaments.]
4. Darkrain [he hardly seems to play anymore, and he doesn't place high in big tournaments]
5. Colbol [he has a very sexy looking playstyle which might fool you, but his lack of experience out of state throws off his current potential. He isn't currently top 10.]
6. SilentSpectre [he's amazing, but i can't say he's top 10..close though]
7. DaShizWiz [This actually fits kinda well, just not in comparison to the rest of the list. He basically places like 7th-9th at all the big tournaments.]
8. Calle W [He's doing decent in europe..always in Grand Finals against armada. until he comes here it's all speculation, everyone saw colbol like this before he came outside of florida.]
9. Tang [lol]
10. Forward [too oldschool still a beast but not top 10]

If you want a decent idea of who's currently the top, look at the top 10 results for Apex 2010, Pound 4, and Revival of Melee 3. [Don't forget about Europeans! They are beast.]

if you're trolling, cool i wasted my time but whatevzzzzz

European myself. Not trolling.

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

Then how is Armada not on your list? You know who calle is..you should know armada literally does not lose tournaments in europe.

 

[glys]

Not by how many victories they have, but how well they are placing at the current tournaments they attend.

Someone shouldn't have to win for 3 years to be considered better than mango if he quit with 3 years of winning under his belt IMO.

" or on their actual skill, and not the thousands of match-ups possible within the wide range of characters players play?"

How would you judge their 'actual skill' then?

There also isn't a wide range of characters like you're visioning. top 10 in big tournaments is the top/high tier characters with ocassional mid tiers and even more rarely 1 low tier.

Glys, don't post twice in a row. if you see no one else has posted after you, which is easy to tell, hit 'edit' under your post. You just said sorry for it then did it literally 5 seconds later

I'd love to better myself, but I don't know how. :/

 

[arcane9211]

glys, have you ever looked at tournament results or even played any good players? Assuming you're not just trying to be a ****/troll, the best players are primarily decided upon consistent tournament placings. The fact that you didn't mention Armada/PP/Amsah/M2k in your top 10...

Eh **** it.