DJRome
Smash Hero
if you lose, you were not more skilled. your ganon fox example is only indicative of how wrong you are. picking characters is a skill. so is playing multiple chars well.
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The Best Players.
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trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
i personally think the ganonfox example was the worst part of your argument so far
it's so irrelevant to any given situation.
DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
it's so irrelevant to any given situation.
DERPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
this was a long time ago and even apex is outdated. now that hbox lost to peepee and m2k we can witness a certain "skill" drop and armada will beat him next tourney for sure.
i have also a tip for armada: we know hungrybox only won cuz of the utilt rests, if you get a refreshed stock u can crouch cancel the first hit which brings you out of utilt percent (10%)
@luma: i never said hungrybox wouldnt be smart - just not top level smart.
@djrome: armada can play multiple characters. but can hungrybox?
Luma
Smash Lord
if your char got a 100-0 matchup, either change your char or change the metagame so its winable if you are a competitve!!!!! gamer
edit: yeah we all saw how good armadas fox was against mango =D
edit: yeah we all saw how good armadas fox was against mango =D
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Gotem City Vigilante
Rome, do you think kk is better than mango?
PP better than hbox?
Was kage better than mango until now?
I'm not trying to start ****,
I'm just curious after reading a few if your posts.
Pengie
Smash Lord
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
if this isn't trolling, i dunno what is. i am now officially completely done with discussing anything involving poundslap
lol you tell you wont give any attention to trolls but you like playing with them (whatever that means) i dont get you.
also guys, read the OP. keep it respectful please. i seriously dont have to post here if i get just negative and ignorant responses.
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Gotem City Vigilante
Hey now, you just might be on to something!
DJRome
Smash Hero
if you rephrase the question to do you think pp would beat hbox today in tournament (and the same for the other 2 cases), i would say yes
except to kage cause mango just beat him
i just think its mean if i try hard to give reasonable arguments and all the people do is calling me a troll. such behaviour is really shallow.
Pengie
Smash Lord
I'm bored and feel like having fun at your expense. It's quite simple really, although it does not
surprise me that you don't get it; you are quite dense, as is evidenced by your posts. Now run along, I'm sure that someone's dick is dry and because all you seem to do is engage in fellatio with others it seems like your time to shine!
ohhh now you use the big words, guy.
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
the fact that theres no big words in there makes me lol
_lemons
Smash Journeyman
I think he was taking about fellatio rofl
Pengie
Smash Lord
It's all good, I wouldn't expect someone with the competence of a six year old to be able to keep up with the grown ups
Poundslap: If HBox relied on "random" factors like dumb rests to win, don't you think he'd be losing more? Because he doesn't play flashy, technically difficult space animals is, AGAIN, irrelevant. Different characters test DIFFERENT skillsets. Part of your skill is how well you can dictate matches to favor *your* skills and hide your disadvantages. If a technical player is very good at forcing people into situations where he can destroy them with his speed and precision--good enough that he wins a majority of the time against everybody--then he is the best, regardless of what else he is bad at.
On the other hand, if a very smart player has **** for tech-skill, but always makes the right guesses and decisions and stays clear of scenarios where he needs to be extremely fast and precise, to the point where HE wins a majority of the time, then HE would be the best player.
Meaning? The whole "he's not better, his style counters me" argument is not applicable if that player's style counters EVERYBODY. HBox has demonstrated that his "style" counters EVERY player but Mango, at least until ROM. Was it a bad day? Will it continue? Can he adapt and turn it around? Future tournaments will tell.
Jeez, just look at how he plays. Solid tech-skill with almost no errors, even in high-pressure tournament situations. Good reads and decision making. Patient and difficult to bait. Excellent anti-combo and survival DI. Ability to shut out an entire crowd being against him. He's got all the attributes of what it takes to be the best, except he's not a flashy combo fanatic. However, the way he plays, he doesn't need that to win.
Oh, and I liked this.
"as i said, you cannot copy someones style no matter how good or bad that person is. thats just impossible."
"btw if hungrybox was really that skilled he could win by doing show offs like armada or mango."
Kindly explain?
On the other hand, if a very smart player has **** for tech-skill, but always makes the right guesses and decisions and stays clear of scenarios where he needs to be extremely fast and precise, to the point where HE wins a majority of the time, then HE would be the best player.
Meaning? The whole "he's not better, his style counters me" argument is not applicable if that player's style counters EVERYBODY. HBox has demonstrated that his "style" counters EVERY player but Mango, at least until ROM. Was it a bad day? Will it continue? Can he adapt and turn it around? Future tournaments will tell.
Jeez, just look at how he plays. Solid tech-skill with almost no errors, even in high-pressure tournament situations. Good reads and decision making. Patient and difficult to bait. Excellent anti-combo and survival DI. Ability to shut out an entire crowd being against him. He's got all the attributes of what it takes to be the best, except he's not a flashy combo fanatic. However, the way he plays, he doesn't need that to win.
Oh, and I liked this.
"as i said, you cannot copy someones style no matter how good or bad that person is. thats just impossible."
"btw if hungrybox was really that skilled he could win by doing show offs like armada or mango."
Kindly explain?
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Wobbles, do you ever get tired of wasting your time? Or do you feel that there is something that will come out of all this? That's a serious question
Also, not sure how anyone really can disagree with what he's saying...
Also, not sure how anyone really can disagree with what he's saying...
Luma
Smash Lord
dude every european except for maybe mikehaggar is embarrased for having you on the same continent...
makoforce
Smash Ace
1.)Hbox
2.)Armada
3.)mang0/m2k
4.)Jman
5.)Jeff
2.)Armada
3.)mang0/m2k
4.)Jman
5.)Jeff
Black_jo
Smash Journeyman
oh ****.
he lost two times on rom. people seem to figure out now how to avoid these lucky rests. armada played two sets and he would have won both of them if hbox didnt pull off such random stuff.
what you said is only to a certain extend. extremely fast and precise is also armada, the right guesses and decisions does also armada make. and heres now the important point: ARMADA DOES IT EVEN MORE THAN HUNGRYBOX. its just how jigglypuff is designed that she has a huge advantage over peach and also over other characters. what you said about good players need to cover up their weaknesses and avoid punishable situations is only correct if you assume you can predict everything in melee. but thats even for armada impossible. random factors are part of the game and thats where hbox can start his combos and each hit can lead into other hits WITHOUT MINDGAMES JUST PLAIN REACTION. and you cannot consider hungrybox being better if you keep that in mind.
to the last part: you dont really understand the second quotation, do you? i meant with show offs that he should do mix ups like instead of util rest, he could utilt (opponent dis away cuz they are predicting rest kill) you turn around and jab reset him cuz hes probably not gonna tech...)
do you understand now?
@luma: im just realistic, youre the one that cannot accept armada being the best.
Luma
Smash Lord
armada lost, how can he be the best?
btw reaction > all in melee
btw reaction > all in melee
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Did poundslap just cite "random" factors when addressing hungrybox's rests (which are skill based), but entirely ignore truly random factors such as stitch faces?
Wow.
Wow.
For the love of <insert whatever you hold dear> ignore this PoundSlap person.
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
For the love of melee, perhaps?
@luma: because it takes more than just winning to be the better one. How often do i have to say that? Armada is overall better.
@dfox: hbox rests are only because ge relys on utilt over and over until it hits. thats random. Stitchface depends on the frame u pull the turnip so it can be manipulated and thats not random. Also once you get a turnip you are not guaranteed to hit. Armada shows how skilled and smart he is that hes got an accuracy of about 82,74% (i counted all his hits)
@dfox: hbox rests are only because ge relys on utilt over and over until it hits. thats random. Stitchface depends on the frame u pull the turnip so it can be manipulated and thats not random. Also once you get a turnip you are not guaranteed to hit. Armada shows how skilled and smart he is that hes got an accuracy of about 82,74% (i counted all his hits)
Pengie
Smash Lord
I'm sorry but we can't understand you. Maybe if you removed Armada's phallus from your oral cavity you would be more easily understood.
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
after his last post it would make me incredibly happy if no1 responded to him anymore
PLEASE?!
at this point it's better off if he's trolling cause if he isn't, then it's clear he has some sort of disorder :s
PLEASE?!
at this point it's better off if he's trolling cause if he isn't, then it's clear he has some sort of disorder :s
Luma
Smash Lord
poundslap, as a competitive player its all about winning, get that in your mind or stop posting or casual bull****, thx
done with you =D
done with you =D
JPOBS
Smash Hero
you guys are all wastign your time.
Kirbykaze is the best player because he is the one who most recently beat PP in a tournament set.
He was kind enough to allow PP to beat him in Losers finals so pp cud beat m2k, because sheik ditto grand finals are dumb.
So inui logic
KK > PP > M2k
Kirbykaze is the best player because he is the one who most recently beat PP in a tournament set.
He was kind enough to allow PP to beat him in Losers finals so pp cud beat m2k, because sheik ditto grand finals are dumb.
So inui logic
KK > PP > M2k
Pengie
Smash Lord
I'm going to be in a car for the next ten hours on my way up to North Carolina so I can't guarantee anything =p my boredom will probably get the best of me but I'll try.
I dont deny thats about winning but u can still be worse. Why else would people put mango high even though he doesnt place well. I dont talk casually armada is better than hbox and armada losing to him doesnt contradict this statement because skill doesnt depend on winning only.
@penguie: youre pretty unfunny and that for the second time now. Kids like you should be not taken too seriously but im gonna report your next ******** post.
@penguie: youre pretty unfunny and that for the second time now. Kids like you should be not taken too seriously but im gonna report your next ******** post.
Iron Dragon
Smash Lord
LOL Amsah, you ****
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
ignoring the ****** now
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
LOL JPOBS you're such a *****
like hell i'd forfeit LFs to him
i want my money god dammit
and i also really wanted to 1-up Kage's rom2 placing LOL
like hell i'd forfeit LFs to him
i want my money god dammit
and i also really wanted to 1-up Kage's rom2 placing LOL
MikeHaggarKJB
Smash Rookie
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rofl, poundslap is ****** this thread. watching ******* getting worked up over what he says is ****ing priceless.
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