The Bakery - Realised I can still edit the thread title!

[da K.I.D.]

marcbri. whats giving you trouble vs marth?

 

[pulse131]

marth is my least favorite MU too. worse off against him then usually. cant avoid dem 0-deaths very well, and even when i do...still cant get around all his other crap. the good marths around here seem to have a nak for taking out the generic falcos i guess.

 

[swordsaint]

i love the marth match up

its rather fun

 

[pulse131]

think im gonna go ahead and state that marth is part my least favorite MU, and im not sure what i gotta do to get around those grabs and what not. i play a few not as good marths quite often, but the time comes when i gotta play the good ones and uhh, ya i dont do so well. probably every match i get gimped at least once. tips on avoidings grabs?, getting through to get some dmg in, stuff that usually works on him?

o.o halp mii

 

[da K.I.D.]

marth cant spike you offstage off a grab unless he

1. does it within the first two throws.
2. grabs you below 10%

so when youre below 10% youwant to either:
1. hold down the dead center of the stage really hard.
2. camp the platforms if they are available.

also, a huge part of the marth matchup is feeling out their up b habits.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Taunt on a platform and get hit.

Marth is pretty darn fun

 

[pulse131]

thats actually a very good idea xonar. kinda like a snake may want to dmg himself some to avoid cg's by falco, i like it.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I never really understood why the 0%-death tactic agaisnt Falco in the Marth match-up is considered in the match-up o.0 You have to be within a roll's distance from the stage edge to make it work, and it literally has to be below 10% after the last Fthrow or else Fthrow -> dair does not work. A single attack of anything from Marth is enough to prevent it from working or limits them to only one Fthrow which means you have to be even closer to the stage ledge.

Some heavy camping and punishment should snap Marth out of trying to force those grabs.

 

[pulse131]

i.e. i suck so i let my opponent in on a free hit so i dont die

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

i.e. i suck so i let my opponent in on a free hit so i dont die

lol If not for the fact that I could give my opposing Marth player a 20% lead from a throw -> fsmash and an edgeguard chance, I would probably just stand in the middle of the stage and get hit once.

 

[pulse131]

ya and its not like marth has to worry about his fsmash being stale or anything. 2 side b's and boom, everything else is fresh.

 

[da K.I.D.]

after I just started camping the center of the stage. the marth I play with knew he wasnt going to get the spike anymore. but he still gets the f throw f throw f smash on me, which does almost 30% and honestly sends me farther offstage than im really comfortable with, playing falco.

 

[swordsaint]

lol he's doing it wrong then kid

he should be doing

fthrow fthrow, dthrow dthrow dthrow dthrow fsmash

i can't remember how many dthrows is possible

 

[da K.I.D.]

the down throw f smash doesnt tip does it?

and yea, he doesnt do it cus thats something you need to actually main marth to be able to do. he actually mains ICs

 

[swordsaint]

i see

thats a fair point

but yes the dthrow fsmash does tip at the end of it

 

[da K.I.D.]

thats gay as balls...

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I thought the Dthrow -> dthrow chain grab was only possible on Fox o.o

 

[pulse131]

l0ol this is what you may be looking for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhtXOE_TiHs
so ya one free hit, makes sense.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

1 mayb 2 more dthrows could be used lol

 

[da K.I.D.]

snake cna damage himself so that works for him.

but you cant reall just give the marth a free hit with falco, other wise he'll just grab you.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

on a platform?

 

[da K.I.D.]

im pretty sure he can depending on the platform.

 

[DEHF]

Falco should **** Marth if he's only going for grabs, you can jab him and grab him.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Marths try to shieldgrab lasers on low percents but silent laser gives frame advantage and allows you to grab earlier so silent laser is epiiiiic

 

[Marcbri]

marth chaingrabs aren't that bad, it's a pretty fun match-up actually, I just end up losing xD.I'm already 0-3 in sets vs Mr.R and have yet to take a game ( although I got very close at BBI in the first match D: ).

Aafter that I MMed Leon and took the first game in BF, would have prolly take another one in BF if I hadn't got grabbed at 0 to dair xD I figured more things in that set, I tend to say I suck vs marth but slowly I'm getting better vs them.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Rofl Xonar you suck so much my grandma could pick up Falco and she'd be ten times better than you after a week that's how bad you are lmao ps you suck

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Ghebbycakes, what about our elaborate relationship? I thought you were my Ghebbycakes till the ends of times, you even pinky promised at ZEST...

 

[Denzi]

You're stretching the page =_=

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I don't care if the page is being stretched, it slows my computer down. Who needs to see 5 scars on someone's arm?

 

[Marcbri]

a xonar or a mod should edit the post and just left the link there

 

[pulse131]

thats too big...

 

[dainbramage]

thats too big...

that's what she said

 

[pulse131]

dainbramage: that's what she said

no u

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I didn't mean to stretch the page...

btw guys check this wallpaper

 

[pulse131]

you could have just, you know, reduced the size...

 

[HotWings]

How did you get them marks on your arm? It looks like claw marks from a cat... but you never know lol. You make any girls mad recently?? >_<

 

[pulse131]

doubt thats his arm. prolly some kid with nuttin better to do.
i tried it once although it wasnt that bad. it was ok i guess, not sure how people truly think there getting anything out of it though.

 

[swordsaint]

i am surprised that seriously no one got xonars joke

you're all fails

<3 xonar

 

[pulse131]

dont see how that was much of a quote un quote '' jk '' but watevs

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

SWORDSAINT <3

At least 1 person on this world TRULY understands me.