Super Smash Bros. Infinite Project (Finally Finished!???)

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Here is our submissions for our Mii Costumes. Seeing as how none were submitted between my announcement message and now (which was nearly an hour rather than 30 minutes); we will commence with voting. Please refer to my original message which is a few posts up above this one.

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Alright, the moment you all have been waiting for. Our very first induction into Season 3 which is our final season DLC. This is the end of it. All of the work we put into this game; all the tears, sweat, and joy amounts to this moment. This thread started in December 2020 and continued into 2022. Nearly two years of development. I have been immensly proud of this project despite any issues that come with running it and I will always remember this project. I hope you all do as well.

So without further adeiu, let's start.....

Submit a Third-Party Villain​

This villain can represent thier series or be drawn from a series that is currently in Smash. We have yet to add a villain-based newcomer so I feel this is the best time for it. In the launch version, we added Dr. Eggman from Sonic for a villain so we will be doing this again for our Season 3 DLC. That being said, there is a few ground rules:

• No villains from 3rd party franchises introduced in Infinite. This means Crash Bandicoot, Resident Evil, Plants vs Zombies, etc
• The following companies are barred from villains due to a promotional costume being submitted for them:
  • Namco
  • Level-5
  • Rovio
  • Rare/Microsoft
  • Koei-Tecmo
  • Dan Fornace
  • Whoever owns Five Nights at Freddy's
  • Whoever owns Bubsy
• In addition, a BlazBlue villain won't be accpeted as we have a Kagatsuchi stage. This is the same for Portal. In fact, any new series that gains universe status in Smash Infinite is barred due to already having a stage. (And no...Midgard was introduced in Smash 4 while Northern Cave was in Smash Ultimate. It would be like including Gruntilda and then adding Gruntilda's Lair...but we can't cause Rare is barred due to Fulgore and Conker.)
• Also, due to Eggman getting in, a Sonic villain will be ineligible.
• When submitting, please please please please please try to envision how the bundle would look. I think some people have a tendency to submit who they want but fail to look at the wider scope. Case in point, submitting Akuma might seem like a decent idea but we have two Street Fighter stages, assist trophies, spirits, mii costumes, music, and many othe things for the series. You need to ask yourself: does this series need another character? In the case of Sephiroth, he got in based on just how iconic he is but also the severe lack of Final Fantasy content. Castlevania, Mega Man, and Street Fighter already has tons of content so perhaps its best to focus on other series.
• Dr. Wily is out as he is an assist trophy. This goes for all assist trophies included in Smash Ultimate.
• Other than that, anyone is eligible as long as the that franchise has appeared on a Nintendo system.

Please ping me if you have questions regarding a submission. I will do my best to answer you in a timely manner.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

In regards to "villain" status. Does it have to be an established character? Or could it be just a regular enemy?

What about characters who are morally ambiguous? Or whose status is given by player choice?

What if someone is the protagonist but also willingly performs evil acts with no regard to others? Does that make them a villain?

Also why does it have to be third-party?

 

[GolisoPower]

REVOLVER OCELOT

Who is he?​

Revolver Ocelot is a recurring character in the Metal Gear series, usually a villain and sometimes an anti-hero. A counterpart to Snake, Ocelot has consistently been in an antagonistic role for most of the series, with Metal Gear Solid V being the exception, and even then he's an antihero.

Why Ocelot?​

Up there with Snake, Ocelot is one of the most important characters in the Metal Gear franchise, pretty much as popular as the likes of Raiden or Big Boss. And with Metal Gear making its way back into Smash Bros via Ultimate, the franchise is due another character, I feel. This is where Ocelot comes in.

How Would He Play?​

In Smash Bros, Snake is a stage control character with versatile specials and projectiles, constantly forcing his foes to a disadvantage. I believe we could invert this somewhat for Ocelot: in Smash, Ocelot would be more of a focused character with less versatile, yet still strong specials, some tight up-close combat, and a unique aimable disjoint that allows him to strip the foe of their advantage as opposed to forcing a foe to disadvantage.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

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NIGHTMARE Is On Another Calibur!

Who is he?​

Nightmare is the recurring antagonist of Tekken's sister franchise, Soul Calibur, and its effective poster boy. The sword known as Soul Edge is the known embodiment of evil, and very few could wield its power and not be corrupted by its darkness. Nightmare itself is the incarnation of the sword, sometimes possessing knight Siegfried Schtauffen in many of his appearances.

Why Nightmare?​

Soul Calibur is the second of Namco's famous fighting game franchises, and as mentioned before, he's the franchise's mascot. Not to mention, Soul Calibur itself is a franchise that's no stranger to crossovers, inviting the likes of Geralt of Rivia, Spawn, Nintendo's own Link, and even Star Wars! Having Nightmare in Smash feels like a return of the favor for Nintendo allowing Link to join the fight in SC2 for GameCube. Even Tekken's Heihachi made an appearance there, funnily enough.

How Would He Play?​

Before, it'd be almost impossible to make a set for Nightmare and still make him feel like he got plucked right out of Soul Calibur. But thanks to one Kazuya Mishima, we have generally a better idea. In Soul Calibur, Nightmare has been known as an aggressive, long-ranged bait-and-punish character who capitalizes on his foes' mistakes with immense burst damage. In Smash Bros, he'd have Buster Sword-level range and extreme power to his strikes. But there are a few things that I feel would make Nightmare stick out:

• Night Stances: A key part of Nightmare's kit revolves around three stances: Night Side, Night Low, and Night Behind, both of which are stances that each have several follow-ups. This is a major part of why he's so good at baiting opponents, as he can gaud foes into using the wrong move before switching to another stance and sinking his proverbial fangs.​
• Terror Charge: In some of his moves, he has armor-frames on his start-up. Striking him during those frames allows him to counter the foe with an evil burst of soul power that gives him a buff and bolsters his next move.​
• Guard Impact: This is a move where if you block at just the right time, you can push your foe away and follow up with a quick move that can lead you to a vicious combo. In Smash, I imagine Guard Impact to be one of his gimmicks: by tilting the joystick forward during a Perfect Shield, you generate a windbox that pushes foes away and causes them to stumble for a bit, leaving them wide open.​

Combine vicious, long-reaching normals with those three systems and the usual benefits FGC characters possess, Nightmare in Smash would be a vicious super-heavyweight swordfighter with surprising burst mobility to weave his way around his enemies and strike them when he feels they've jumped the gun. He's not that good in close-range engagements thanks to his slow frame data, but he also possesses some good survivability and disjointed range to poke his foes from farther away.

• The following companies are barred from villains due to a promotional costume being submitted for them:
  • Namco

That's rough buddy.

 

[GolisoPower]

That's rough buddy.

...well, ****e.

EDIT: Found a new one!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

In regards to "villain" status. Does it have to be an established character? Or could it be just a regular enemy?

What about characters who are morally ambiguous? Or whose status is given by player choice?

What if someone is the protagonist but also willingly performs evil acts with no regard to others? Does that make them a villain?

Also why does it have to be third-party?

1. No, villain or a regular enemy. The regulart enemy should be well-known though. This will be a particualr point I will hold people to.

2. A streotypical villain boss character but I am not being a stickler about that.

3. Just a villain, the anatagonist of the series.

 

[Infinity Sorcerer]

Maybe a weird election, but trust me I have some reasons to why consider him.
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"Suffering defeat after defeat, that man’s body was reaching it’s limit…
breaking down… but he couldn’t die yet, the man had a job that must be done:
To defeat his twin brother"

VERGIL
SHOWS HIS MOTIVATION!

​

Who is Vergil?
Vergil is one of the sons of Sparda the Legendary Dark Knight and the human Eva apart of the twin brother of Dante, Vergil was always be portrayed has his opposite being their main difference how Dante rejected his inner demon embracing his human heritage meanwhile he constantly denies his humanity searching the power that his demonic blood can provide. The first appearence of Vergil wasn't actually completely has himself but a brainwashed version called Nelo Angelo, his more well-know portrayal appeared in the third game Dante's Awakening where he is the main antagonist of the game, in Devil May Cry 4 he had a pseudo-canonical appearence has a playable character in the Special Edition of the game and reappears once again in Devil May Cry 5 being the main antagonist (and also the villain) this time. You can even say that even when Vergil doesn't appear he is always related in some way to the plot.
Why Vergil over Dante?
Probably the question most people would be doing the moment they looked this, why you should include he instead of Dante who is the protagonist?, well, first for all, is kinda fair to say that Capcom doesn't care about Dante's status has the protagonist since the actual games even if include him in the poster it's Nero who should be considered the protagonist, yet even then this doesn't answer the question of why we should add him over Dante or even Nero, well I think there are two reasons why he must be at least considerated.

• Fan Preference

Vergil is the most popular character of the franchise, you can note it just searching how many memes, fanarts, etc are of him, everyone loves Bury the Light and everyone hates (and at the same time love) how broken he is in Marvel vs Capcom 3, and the proper Capcom tends to use him has the main push for buy the Special Edition's of the games. Even if Dante is cool (and I would love to see him) Vergil isn't a bad election in terms of popularity.

• Lore

Has I said before you can perfectly say that DMC's plots is about Vergil and you would be right, Vergil is always present in a way or other into the story, in DMC1 he appears has Nelo Angelo, part of the reason why Dante has a drastic chance in DMC2 is because Vergil, in DMC3 Vergil appears physically and the plot is about how Dante must stop him, Vergil's son is the protagonist of DMC 4 and 5, in DMC4 his sword is an important key in the game and in DMC5 Vergil is the only reason why Dante was even interesed to take the job, so not only in fan popularity but in terms of the game's story Vergil is relevant enough to be considered a good replace of the other son of Sparda.
How Vergil would play?
The main reason why I would even think on include Vergil over Dante is his gameplay, sure maybe Vergil lacks Dante's variety of weapons but he compesates it with something in particular and it's his technique. You can say that Vergil would be "a generic swordsman" and you will be totally wrong, because...did you even see what Vergil can do even with just three weapons?

He could also bring almost anything Dante could have in terms of gimmicks (combos, Devil Trigger, between some others) with the exception of the styles (that honestly I usually don't like those fanon Dante's moveset that uses the Style gimmick..., mainly because they try to change all his special moves and even his normales that actually makes his moveset more limited than variante). He also has his own unique mechanic in the form of the Concentration meter that it's unique since it could be considered the Anti-Tension Meter, it compensates when you do precise attacks, walks slowly and even just standing still but whiff to much, being attacked and even run unnecesary reduces this meter and with that Vergil's power, Good Vergil players should avoid the move spamming and try to control of the space mantaining mostly estathic (unless they are using his teleport) whole a bad Vergil player would be punished for miss moves and take hits that the could avoid.
Summary

• Vergil is a submission equally good to Dante.
• Vergil could bring a similar playstyle to Dante or even a more unique one.
• Vergil has the approval of the fanbase to be the DMC rep.
• Vergil is awesome.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

...well, ****e.

EDIT: Found a new one!

Artorias is also owned by Namco

 

[GolisoPower]

Artorias is also owned by Namco

VERDAMMT

EDIT: Here we go, third time's the charm!

 

[Infinity Sorcerer]

Artorias is also owned by Namco

We said before that we can consider Dark Souls more of a From Software rep than Namco.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

We said before that we can consider Dark Souls more of a From Software rep than Namco.

If Banjo is a Microsoft character and Joker is a SEGA character why is Dark Souls getting special treatment?

 

[Infinity Sorcerer]

When was Joker considered Sega?, even in the copyright part of the game they require to include Atlus, something that doesnt happen when the company fully owns the franchise.

 

[ivanlerma]

Here is our current submissions

• Rick Taylor (Splatterhouse)
• Professor Layton (Professor Layton)
• Red (Angry Birds)
• Fulgore (Killer Instinct)
• Freddy Fazbear (Five Nights at Freddy's)
• Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
• Conker (Conker's Bad Fur Day) <-- Due to the inappropriate and controversial nature of Conker's Bad Fur Day and to keep our Mii Costume rating down, I am replacing this Masterpeice with the more firendly, Conker's Pocket Tales.)
• Bubsy (Bubsy)

Omori and Mortal Kombat is being removed. I fI don't get any further submissions in the next 30 minutes, this is our final list.

Why Change Conker? That's Not Fair

Edit: You Mean The Costume? Oops Sorry

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

So I dislike changing the rules but I had a different idea. So I’m going to check our votes for Te promotional Mii costume in less than 12 hours. If there’s enough votes with a certified winner, I will announce it early. This makes any character that comes from those above companies eligible as long as they didn’t win.

I feel this is more flexible.

 

[cashregister9]

Emet-selch (Final Fantasy XIV)

MAJOR FFXIV SPOILERS BELOW!



The main villain of Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers and a recurring presence throughout the series. Emet-selch is an ancient and a member of the Ascians and he helped to establish the nefarious Garlean Empire and ruled it under the name "Solus Zos Galvus"

Spoiler

Emet-selch's true name is Hades and uses the power of darkness

Emet-selch can use the abilities he has in his boss fight and also the powers he has as an ancient as seen in Endwalker

Final Fantasy XIV is an incredibly popular FF title and has received near universal praise for it's writing and gameplay.

FFXIV also has an incredible soundtrack that also has near universal praise.

Spoiler: 3 Videos

In conclusion, Emet-selch would not only be an interesting character to add not only for his gameplay but also the new Final Fantasy representation is valuable.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

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GORO MAJIMA

Who is he?​

Goro Majima is a recurring character and occasional antagonist of the beat-em-up action-adventure franchise, Yakuza. In his debut appearance, Majima has shown to be utterly relentless for trying to squeeze a fight out of the protagonist, Kiryu Kazuma, as part of a mechanic called "Majima Everywhere".

Why Majima?​

Yakuza is one of Sega's biggest franchises, up there with the likes of Sonic the Hedgehog. Oh, and about the elephant in the room: the creator of Yakuza has gone on record to say that he doesn't want Kiryu in Smash because, if I recall correctly, "it would be out of character for him to hit a woman". Well, the same can't be said for Majima. He'll kick your ass no matter who or what you are.

Speaking of, Majima has shown to be one of the most popular Yakuza characters for his utter dedication to fight Kiryu, his charisma from his days as Lord of the Night, and the sheer personality he exudes while fighting his foes is sure to put a big fat smile on your face.

How Would He Play?​

Yakuza is really known for its combat and having 4 styles, and as Majima himself is a playable character, he's no exception: imagine Kazuya, but not an FGC character. you basically get a Yakuza character. He'd be a mid-weight close-range brawler/grappler who likes to close the gap and go whole ham on his foes. He'd also be extremely mobile to get the feeling that Majima's Everywhere, too.

Majima isn't a villain my guy, he's an antihero.





Either way...

Handsome Jack (Borderlands series)

Borderlands is pretty cool, and Jack is known far and wide as one of gaming's most charismatic villains, and is arguably the main character of Borderlands 2 (at least, in his own mind). The self-proclaimed ruler of Pandora definitely knows his way around a gun, and he's got a wide arsenal of weaponry he could pull from. Borderlands also has iconic enemies like the Psycho Bandit and Claptraps who could theoretically assist him; and the alien world of Pandora would make for a killer stage.
​

 

[GolisoPower]

Majima isn't a villain my guy, he's an antihero.





Either way...

Handsome Jack (Borderlands series)
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Borderlands is pretty cool, and Jack is known far and wide as one of gaming's most charismatic villains, and is arguably the main character of Borderlands 2 (at least, in his own mind). The self-proclaimed ruler of Pandora definitely knows his way around a gun, and he's got a wide arsenal of weaponry he could pull from. Borderlands also has iconic enemies like the Psycho Bandit and Claptraps who could theoretically assist him; and the alien world of Pandora would make for a killer stage.
​

Look, I've been trying lol

In any case, I've got one going up real quick

EDIT: Alrighty then, new one's up: it's Ocelot.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Maybe a weird election, but trust me I have some reasons to why consider him.
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"Suffering defeat after defeat, that man’s body was reaching it’s limit…
breaking down… but he couldn’t die yet, the man had a job that must be done:
To defeat his twin brother"

VERGIL
SHOWS HIS MOTIVATION!

​

Who is Vergil?
Vergil is one of the sons of Sparda the Legendary Dark Knight and the human Eva apart of the twin brother of Dante, Vergil was always be portrayed has his opposite being their main difference how Dante rejected his inner demon embracing his human heritage meanwhile he constantly denies his humanity searching the power that his demonic blood can provide. The first appearence of Vergil wasn't actually completely has himself but a brainwashed version called Nelo Angelo, his more well-know portrayal appeared in the third game Dante's Awakening where he is the main antagonist of the game, in Devil May Cry 4 he had a pseudo-canonical appearence has a playable character in the Special Edition of the game and reappears once again in Devil May Cry 5 being the main antagonist (and also the villain) this time. You can even say that even when Vergil doesn't appear he is always related in some way to the plot.
Why Vergil over Dante?
Probably the question most people would be doing the moment they looked this, why you should include he instead of Dante who is the protagonist?, well, first for all, is kinda fair to say that Capcom doesn't care about Dante's status has the protagonist since the actual games even if include him in the poster it's Nero who should be considered the protagonist, yet even then this doesn't answer the question of why we should add him over Dante or even Nero, well I think there are two reasons why he must be at least considerated.

• Fan Preference

Vergil is the most popular character of the franchise, you can note it just searching how many memes, fanarts, etc are of him, everyone loves Bury the Light and everyone hates (and at the same time love) how broken he is in Marvel vs Capcom 3, and the proper Capcom tends to use him has the main push for buy the Special Edition's of the games. Even if Dante is cool (and I would love to see him) Vergil isn't a bad election in terms of popularity.

• Lore

Has I said before you can perfectly say that DMC's plots is about Vergil and you would be right, Vergil is always present in a way or other into the story, in DMC1 he appears has Nelo Angelo, part of the reason why Dante has a drastic chance in DMC2 is because Vergil, in DMC3 Vergil appears physically and the plot is about how Dante must stop him, Vergil's son is the protagonist of DMC 4 and 5, in DMC4 his sword is an important key in the game and in DMC5 Vergil is the only reason why Dante was even interesed to take the job, so not only in fan popularity but in terms of the game's story Vergil is relevant enough to be considered a good replace of the other son of Sparda.
How Vergil would play?
The main reason why I would even think on include Vergil over Dante is his gameplay, sure maybe Vergil lacks Dante's variety of weapons but he compesates it with something in particular and it's his technique. You can say that Vergil would be "a generic swordsman" and you will be totally wrong, because...did you even see what Vergil can do even with just three weapons?

He could also bring almost anything Dante could have in terms of gimmicks (combos, Devil Trigger, between some others) with the exception of the styles (that honestly I usually don't like those fanon Dante's moveset that uses the Style gimmick..., mainly because they try to change all his special moves and even his normales that actually makes his moveset more limited than variante). He also has his own unique mechanic in the form of the Concentration meter that it's unique since it could be considered the Anti-Tension Meter, it compensates when you do precise attacks, walks slowly and even just standing still but whiff to much, being attacked and even run unnecesary reduces this meter and with that Vergil's power, Good Vergil players should avoid the move spamming and try to control of the space mantaining mostly estathic (unless they are using his teleport) whole a bad Vergil player would be punished for miss moves and take hits that the could avoid.
Summary

• Vergil is a submission equally good to Dante.
• Vergil could bring a similar playstyle to Dante or even a more unique one.
• Vergil has the approval of the fanbase to be the DMC rep.
• Vergil is awesome.

Dante's more fun though. He's goofy and fun

Besides we already have white-haired edgelord with long ass sword.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Here’s my submission for a third party villain

Master Xehanort (Kingdom Hearts)

He is (well, was) basically the major antagonist across the entire Kingdom Hearts franchise. I don’t recall us adding much Kingdom Hearts content so I feel his pack can come with a lot more content from the spin-offs and all. Maybe even some Kingdom Hearts x Final Fantasy crossover spirits, heh? He would fight by using his powers of darkness and his keyblade as well making him the anti-Sora. Oh yea, and we can add another Kingdom Hearts location as his stage given the multitude of original locations in the game. Given that Kingdom Hearts 4 is coming out within Infinite’s timeline, another Kingdom Hearts character can get fans more excited to play the game but with a former main antagonist.

 

[PastaRorroKuma]

Crow/Goro Akechi (Persona 5)
Since Persona fans will now play their favorite game thanks to the Switch port and Akechi is supposedly getting it's own spin-off I think it's a good time to submit him, while he wasn't the main villain from what I know, he is one of the villains in the game and the most iconic probably, he has a good moveset potential, the only thing that for me kinda of ruins Crow's inclussion it's the amount of Persona content already, but there's always something to add.
I hope Crow gets included because Persona 5 is every Persona fan's most wanted game to play

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Character submission:

Shao Kahn (Mortal Kombat - Midway/Netherrealm studios/Warner bros. Interactive/Warner Bros. Discovery)

"Nothing can alter your destiny, nor mine!"

Who is this lad with the mask?
​

Shao Kahn is the primary antagonist of Midway's fighting game series Mortal Kombat and he is powerful tyrant of the Outworld throne. He is praised as one of most popular video game villains. Alongside Shinook, he serves as a primary antagonist of the series.
Although Shang Tsung is a main antagonist of the series, Shao Kahn is more popular than him in comparison. After his debut in MK II, he started to appear in other MK games as boss or even playable.

Shao Kahn the Konqueror is the overlord of Outworld and he served as antagonist for most of the series. He appeared as boss in multiple games and he was an antagonist in MK (2011)'s story mode and a secodary one in MK11's story mode. He was even an announcer for the game's arcade.

How the heck he could work in smash?​

Well, well, well. Shao Kahn is not a stranger for fighting games, since he appeared in many of them. Yes, so his moveset for smash would be taken from Mortal Kombat games. He could use his signature hammer, fists, legs and more, given the fact that he is a fighting game character.
His gimmicks would be 1-1 Facing, Command Inputs, Button commands and he would have new gimmick in game like Super Meter, where it rises while dealing damage or taking damage. It can be spent to Amplify his special moves by holding the button or perform a deadly breaker move by pressing the special while shielding, which he could break out of his combos.
The gimmicks could reference MK games, where he originated from.

He would be heavyweight rushdown fighter with slow speed and he doesn't have any movement options such as crawling or wall-jumping. He could also have universal armor gimmick like Kazuya and Bowser.

There is a secret when you play him. When you could choose him as playable fighter, the announcer's voice changes into Mortal Kombat's one (It's kinda similar to Kazuya's situation, where he has different announcer).

Why Shao Kahn as fighter for Smash Infinite?​

Shao Kahn should be added to smash roster, because he would represent Mortal Kombat franchise, or even Warner Bros. games as whole, which it would be similar to Sora, since he (Sora) is owned by non-video game company, just like Shao Kahn. Also he would have genuine moveset potential like using his hammer as side smash or even his final smash would be based on his Fatality move.

Since we got a Scorpion Mii costume, he would be suprise pick for the game, tricking many fans & gamers that the franchise got disconfirmed, but actually it wasn't.
His inclusion would expand the MK representation in Smash just like Tekken (Where we got a fighter after mii costume from the same franchise).

Also I know MK is "banned" in Japan, but due to Scorpion's inclusion as mii it would increase it's popularity to be included in the game.

Also like I mentioned earlier, he would be another character who is owned by non-video game company (Warner Bros. Discovery).

(Also imagine his reveal trailer, where fighting game characters encounter him in the battle).

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Remember to vote! I will post the results earlier than usual and any companies who aren’t selected are eligible.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

EDIT: Ignore this

I'll wait for the results before submitting, I hope to submit Bad Piggies.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

So I took a look at the results. Im still waiting for a more definitive winner as we have a few that are close. That being said; the few that have a “snowballs chance in hell” are the following:

• Namco
• The people who owns Freddy
• The people who owns Bubsy

Removed Rovio as a vote was casted while I typed this up. This pushed them back the 6 point threshold.

These three companies are ok to have content submitted. The rest are within the three vote striking range to make a difference. Please make sure to vote!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Name	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total
Rick Taylor	1 (3)	0	0	3
Professor Layton
Red
Fulgore
Freddy	1 (3)	1 (2)	0	5
Ryu Hayabusa
Conker
Bubsy	1 (3)	1 (2)	1	6
Zetterburn

These are the bottom 3 results. I removed them from voting.

• Professor Layton
• Red
• Fulgore
• Ryu
• Conker
• Zetterburn

Are all on the ballot now.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Sorry for the triple post but I will be allowing voting to stay open for 30 more minutes. We do have a few characters being able to reach striking range to the leader. That being said, once 30 minutes pass and, if we don't have beyond a 3 point lead, I will commence a run-off poll via thread poll. I will combine these posts a bit later to keep the thread clean.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Assuming Red loses, will I be able to submit Bad Piggies for the job, or will voting close after submissions?

 

[Deleted member]

Got a couple of ideas. I'll wait and see what others submit

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Alright, well, we had a total of 12 votes. Here is whole the voting panned out. Thank you everyone or your submissions and taking the time to vote.

Name	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total
Rick Taylor	1 (3)	0	0	3
Professor Layton	2 (6)	2 (4)	3	13
Red	1 (3)	2 (4)	2	8
Fulgore	2 (6)	2 (4)	0	10
Freddy	1 (3)	1 (2)	0	5
Ryu Hayabusa	1 (3)	2 (4)	1	8
Conker	2 (6)	1 (2)	1	9
Bubsy	1 (3)	1 (2)	1	6
Zetterburn	1 (3)	1 (2)	2	7

So, while Professor Layton is in the lead, Fulgore is within the 3 point striking distance so I will be starting a run-off poll that will last for several hours and will be featured at the top of the thread. This is to ensure that once the winner is decided, we can also submit a Level-5 or Rare/Microsoft villain. Please note that there is a very good chance that Level-5 or Rare/Microsoft will be barred from newcomer submissions for Season 3.

Thos opens up the following for Villain submissions:

Namco
Rovio
Whoever Freddy belongs to
Whoever Bubsy belongs to
Koei-Tecmo
Dan Fornace

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Bad Piggy (Rovio)

Who are the Bad Piggies?
Coloured green as an at-the-time topical swine flu joke, the Bad Piggies are the villains of the massively influential Angry Birds series of games - within the plot of the original game, they had stolen the bird's eggs and planned to fry them as a meal, led by the greedy King Pig Smooth Cheeks, and thustly the birds needed to tear down their forts to get their eggs back.

The Bad Piggies would go on to star in their own title: Bad Piggies, where the player is tasked with building inventions to help the pigs get to their much-desired eggs using a variety of parts and gizmos. While maybe not as big as Angry Birds, Bad Piggies was a big deal when it first launched - propelling to the top of the App Store charts. This game will be the basis for my piggy pitch and the reason to choose them over their avian rivals

Why should a Bad Piggy be in?
Bad Piggies is due to recieve a long-awaited sequel very soon, and as a whole the Angry Birds franchise is having a nostalgic resurgence due to its fans becoming adults with their own money - the classic Angry Birds games have been returning to app stores for example. Zoomers who may have already been attracted by the inclusion of Crazy Dave and Steve would be very happy to see the Piggy join. Angry Birds is a puzzle franchise, something we still haven't properly represented, and at that a physics puzzle franchise, which would make it unique even if Dr. Mario is considered a puzzle rep. We also already have Angry Birds content in base game.

What would a Bad Piggy do?
The Bad Piggy's moveset would probably revolve in some form around vehicle creation - while this isn't the only possibility, my idea is that the piggy should be inside a single frame with a wheel on the bottom - the left, right, and top all have different gizmos attached that can be swapped with a Down B, these would modify back/neutral, forward, and up attacks respectively - so, for example, you could put a fan at top to deal damage with your Up B and add a windbox to your up smash, or an umbrella to add a slow descent after your Up B and give your up smash a bigger hitbox. Similarly, you could put a Soda bottle as your back part to get a multihit back air and neutral B that creates a long, damage dealing geyser backward, or put on a pump to have your back air propel you a bit forwards and Neutral B that pushes foes behind you away with wind. (this is assuming that the Up B and Neuteal B are just standard flight and dash attacks, which they probably won't be)
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There are many other ways to handle this though, like creating your own kart shapes; or having a destructible kart with some kind of physics to it.

Why a pig over a bird?
The most memorable part of Angry Birds is the wooden and steel structures - something the birds just can't represent since their goal in the game is to destroy them. The pigs, being the ones who build the structures, can represent the structures in the form of vehicles. Although there's only one Bad Piggies game, it is just as beloved as the other games, if not moreso, and has kept relevance through nostalgic memes and absurd inventions that show them as more than just the washed up pop culture icons people tend to (wrongfully) see the birds as.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Question #1: I was considering entering in Pyramid Head. I never played those games but I love the idea of a hulking lumbering swordsman with amazing reach and power output but very low speed and jump stats. Yet, it can power through most anything with super armor and priority. Basically what I wanted Ridley to become when he debuted. That being said, how is Pyramid Head’s reception? Do you think it and it’s series is appropriate for Smash?

Question #2: Is Heavy from Team Fortress considered a villain despite being able to play as him?

 

[PastaRorroKuma]

1. Pyramid Head would be ****ing awesome
2. Heavy isn't a villain, it will be like saying that Ryu is a villain because you can fight against him but can also play as him, the villain of tf2 is Merasmus, this is all from someone who's played tf2 like 4 times, still I'm enough of a Valve nerd to draw that conclussion

 

[Infinity Sorcerer]

Question #1: I was considering entering in Pyramid Head. I never played those games but I love the idea of a hulking lumbering swordsman with amazing reach and power output but very low speed and jump stats. Yet, it can power through most anything with super armor and priority. Basically what I wanted Ridley to become when he debuted. That being said, how is Pyramid Head’s reception? Do you think it and it’s series is appropriate for Smash?

Question #2: Is Heavy from Team Fortress considered a villain despite being able to play as him?

I rarely considere a franchise non-apropiate for the game (mostly only those without potential or things like Manhunt or any H game that for obvious reasons shouldn't be here), and Silet Hill is very iconic so I consider him a viable option.

 

[tonygameman]

Question #1: I was considering entering in Pyramid Head. I never played those games but I love the idea of a hulking lumbering swordsman with amazing reach and power output but very low speed and jump stats. Yet, it can power through most anything with super armor and priority. Basically what I wanted Ridley to become when he debuted. That being said, how is Pyramid Head’s reception? Do you think it and it’s series is appropriate for Smash?

Well, I do honestly think that Pyramid Head would be accepted here. Wanted a new Konami rep in this project for a long time, and also played the original PS1 game myself once months ago, with some knowledge thanks to my younger sister's experience with the series.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Well, I do honestly think that Pyramid Head would be accepted here. Wanted a new Konami rep in this project for a long time, and also played the original PS1 game myself once with some knowledge thanks to my younger sister's experience with the series.

Same, since back in early 2022 I submitted Bill Rizer as candidate for second DLC character.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd say go Pyramid Head honestly.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Silent Hill is highly inappropriate. Just because Konami likes to shove him in kids games doesn't mean he belongs here. Reminder that this character us covered in blood and is also seen doing some very uncomfortable thrusting things which I won't describe in detail

 

[Deleted member]

GolisoPower
Hey. Just checking if you're keeping your submission as is. I might submit Nightmare but I just wanted to check you weren't planning on switching back to him. If not I have other ideas

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I think Silent Hill on it's own is fine, but not Pyramid Head because of what he represents.

 

[Deleted member]

I think Silent Hill on it's own is fine, but not Pyramid Head because of what he represents.

They've put the dude in a million crossovers I don't see why we stop now.