hungrybox
Smash Legend
Watch me against Amsah for how to beat Sheik on youtube.
Amsah's an alright shiek.
:D
Amsah's an alright shiek.
:D
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Stuff About Puff
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idea
Smash Master
you didn't even look like you were trying in that set =P
SDC
Smash Lord
Thanks for the help you guys, but I'm curious, on what characters and on what %'s is Downthrow guaranteed rest?
idea
Smash Master
oh, if they DI away, never. dthrow is mostly useful for forcing people onto a platform, at which point you can often react to their tech options with rest.
if they DI on top of you...i think it works on sheik at low percent (<20% maybe?). and probably on fox and falco at mid percents...maybe falcon...dunno about anyone else.
if they DI on top of you...i think it works on sheik at low percent (<20% maybe?). and probably on fox and falco at mid percents...maybe falcon...dunno about anyone else.
Mahone
Smash Champion
Magus where are u, we need u!!
SDC
Smash Lord
Yeah that's what I was thinkin, sheik at low and fox/falco at mid, but thanks for CF and pikachu, didn't think of those.
BTW guys I just made a Jiggz video thread, check her out and enjoy the raep
BTW guys I just made a Jiggz video thread, check her out and enjoy the raep
aka.carpet003
Smash Cadet
Hey guys! I need wall of pain tips! for some reason it's really hard for me to get bairs to land c0onsecutively, maybe I'm too close to the opponent? I dunno, please help!
_KuyaSombreo_
Smash Ace
try getting stuff recorded so we can have some visual aids to work with
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
hey is there any reason why I can't hit puff once and run around KJ64 forever? it takes 3 jumps for her to to reach one of the platforms at the top so when she starts jumping up she can't follow you when you jump across to the other platform. if she jumps over there everyone can fall faster than puff and beat her to the bottom and run to the other side, but if she trys to block your way from going there go jump back up.
if she's right below to dair most dairs should outrange her upair. plus if you have projectiles spam them as you go through the air to slow her down more.
I play really gay at times. but is there anything I may want to watch out for? I didn't really see any problems with it but I want to check.
if she's right below to dair most dairs should outrange her upair. plus if you have projectiles spam them as you go through the air to slow her down more.
I play really gay at times. but is there anything I may want to watch out for? I didn't really see any problems with it but I want to check.
Ocean
Smash Master
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because you'd be an *******.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
yes I am but come on pichu has to get something gay i've been looking for a reatrded camping tactic as pichu and this one feels legit to me. also being chased through the center I could thunder so they flaot right into it like a tard. thunder mindgames are the meanest mindgames in all of smash cause you feel so dumb for running into it and sometimes it can set up a combo as pichu as dumbd as it sounds. thunder combos.
also if someone saw that pile of gayness they wouldn't want to ban puff and I love fighting against puffs.
also if someone saw that pile of gayness they wouldn't want to ban puff and I love fighting against puffs.
Tamoo
Smash Master
SDC
Smash Lord
Lol that puff had such bad spacing and he still won. Poor failco
idea
Smash Master
loooooooooool
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
pichu can't be comboed like a FFer non edge gaurded and if I get rested pichu has great punishment. so when I make a mistake I will be punished less for it. plus faab made some dumb mistakes and pichu has better air and ground speed than falco and faab took a decent amount of unneeded risks mostly when he lasered when he wasn't going to hit anything and not waiting for the inv. frames to end for himself.
Mahone
Smash Champion
in theory, that would work, but only someone as carzy as you could do it in practice
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
yes that's the answer I wanted to hear i've done a fair amount of testing also. because you see if puff bans KJ64 she can't also ban PS .
they told me I was mad for trying to out camp puff with pichu but who's mad now?
they told me I was mad for trying to out camp puff with pichu but who's mad now?
aka.carpet003
Smash Cadet
Who knows the link vs Jiggs matchup? I'm playing a pretty good link in two weeks! I need advice!
idea
Smash Master
avoid projectiles, mainly. otherwise bair and fair. and if you rest him once you win. try to duck under any grabs he might do and avoid up-b's, those are both easily punishable by rest.
link is kind of hard to edgeguard but in general try to hit him with bair or fair before he can start his up-b. and if he hookshots then i guess just jump down and hit him out of that, and hope he doesn't tech the stage =P i dunno, i don't have a good strategy for edgeguarding him. sliq once told me to grab the edge and fall off with reverse fair.
link is kind of hard to edgeguard but in general try to hit him with bair or fair before he can start his up-b. and if he hookshots then i guess just jump down and hit him out of that, and hope he doesn't tech the stage =P i dunno, i don't have a good strategy for edgeguarding him. sliq once told me to grab the edge and fall off with reverse fair.
Tamoo
Smash Master
That's what I do, just grab the ledge and that cuts soooo many of links recovery options
hungrybox
Smash Legend
you don't really have to...
I'm not dissing Amsah AT ALL,
I'm just being honest.
The matchup imo is SUPER bad, and it happens to be my favorite matchup.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Keblerelf
Smash Ace
How am I supposed to DI falcon's up air at low/mid %? Is it supposed to be down and away at low % and up and away at mid? (and can the same be said for n air?)
Also, how am I supposed to DI falco's up throw? I've just been trying to hold up and try to SDI the lasers, but my friend who plays falco says it's just better to DI behind.
Also, how am I supposed to DI falco's up throw? I've just been trying to hold up and try to SDI the lasers, but my friend who plays falco says it's just better to DI behind.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Nair you can sometimes dodge the second hit by DIing up and the second foot not brushing you for some stupid reason, otherwise away
Winston
Smash Master
If you're going to DI up at mid percents in hopes of getting over the range of his FJ knee, shouldn't it be up and slightly in? i.e. full survival DI
Mahone
Smash Champion
never surivival di a falcon, u will end up in the next i killed mufasa
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Yes.
DI Knees away always.
...wait.
DI Knees away always.
...wait.
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
you guys should DI in more often vs falcon.
(i love to hear that ***** cry)
(i love to hear that ***** cry)
Mahone
Smash Champion
Well, i was clearly just trying to simplify it for him, but if you wanna be picky, then ya, don't di kill moves away
Winston
Smash Master
Away DI isn't correct 100% of the time for the uber floaties.
Survival DI will get you out if they are trying to combo with SH uair at mid percents. It loses to the FJ uair -> DJ knee though.
I mean yeah, usually you want to DI down + away, but in some situations survival DI is fine/better.
Survival DI will get you out if they are trying to combo with SH uair at mid percents. It loses to the FJ uair -> DJ knee though.
I mean yeah, usually you want to DI down + away, but in some situations survival DI is fine/better.
aka.carpet003
Smash Cadet
okay. so my capture card is destroyed and I have no other ways of recording! can someone please film their hands while they're wall-of-pain-ing?
TheLastCacely
Smash Hero
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what is easiest and safest way to approach marth? he is weird to play against.
Blubby
Smash Apprentice
shield lol.
be very patient, crouch if you think he's going to grab you.. and yeah, as soon he hits your shield and it's not spaced -> go, hit him!
and yeah, if f-smash is not tipper and hits your shield... be grateful and rest him.
as mango said: use your shield
my problems:
very very very campy fox, dealing with his nair, random up-airs..which actually hit >_>
spacing bairs from falco, either trading hits.. or just getting hitted... halp?
be very patient, crouch if you think he's going to grab you.. and yeah, as soon he hits your shield and it's not spaced -> go, hit him!
and yeah, if f-smash is not tipper and hits your shield... be grateful and rest him.
as mango said: use your shield
my problems:
very very very campy fox, dealing with his nair, random up-airs..which actually hit >_>
spacing bairs from falco, either trading hits.. or just getting hitted... halp?
hamonyou
Smash Cadet
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space your own bairs vs falco and just go down on him from above to avoid his lasers. and theres a super campy fox that i play alot and pretty much just try and dodge some lasers if you can and force him into sheild and grab and try to hit him out of his camp, and crouch cause that helps you dodge lasers
idea
Smash Master
he has a sword and stuff!
and, i didn't know size could go above 7.
i think it comes out on 10. frame data mysteriously isn't on my computer since it was last formatted.
and get rid of that past tense, jigglypuff doesn't have any plans to stop fsmashing *****es
crouch, shield, those + wavedashing. try to get underneath him.
hungrybox
Smash Legend
Short hops and back air.
Wavedash toward him and CROUCH all the time.
Grabs are excellent against him.
Stay very low. Attempt nairs and the occasional pound.
mastermoo420
Smash Ace
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But you do that against everyone
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