Sonic's Moveset Discussion + Acronyms List

[Boxob]

I proved an asian wrong.

Boxob for prez.

 

[da K.I.D.]

and now that weve discovered you can spin cancel airials, i highly suggest spring canceling your airials as well. especially aginst bowser, nobody likes eating a fortress after getting an attack shielded

p.s. rooooys new sig is awesome

theres not much too it, its a pretty basic move by sonic standards...

use it, its good, dont rely on it.

also, you need a lot of fall room to autocancel it for some gay reason

 

[infomon]

Honestly, I think Fair is Sonic's best move. Racks up soooo much damage, especially on heavyweights. Great from below platforms, or dropping on people, and being defensive (use c-stick for Fair'ing while moving backwards ftw). Stupid landing lag stops this move from being broken, but it's not hard to work around.

 

[Sonic-Fan]

also, you need a lot of fall room to autocancel it for some gay reason

yeah, I hate that about it since it has lots of lag if you land too fast.

but F-air is by far my favourite sonic attack since it's so versatile.

use it.

combo start with it.

follow up with it.

combo end with it.

it can do everything, and has decent knockback too. I've even used it as a KO move before when harder to hit with moves like b-air and f-smash aren't hitting.

did I mention it can wall of pain like a sonnofa*****?

f-air is god.

 

[infomon]

and hitting a forward air into a spincanceled spinshot is sexy as hell and is good for applying pressure
if they shield it you can posibly use invincibility to hit them through their counter attack

What's a spincanceled spinshot? Fair to spinshot anything sounds pretty hot, I never thought of that lol. Wait, what invincibility? Ohhhhhh, are you talking about just using side-B quick after the Fair? I didn't think that cancelled anything.

 

[Boxob]

It's boxcanceled spinshot.

Spincanceled spinshot sounds dumb.

 

[Kinzer]

Everything about Fair has already been mentioned, it's too good excluding it's range and...yeah just pretty much range since "aerial" priority IS range.

 

[Tenki]

You can DI out of it.

DI traps are nice below the stage- if you use early F-airs so only the last few hits make it, then your opponent might get launched out before he completes SDIing out, and get launched into the stage. Or if he DI's out, you can sometimes double jump and footstool.

other than that, I only really use it for disruption damage because it's generally hard to get all the hits to land (especially when you're trying to space it to start before opponent attack starts), and the DI / non-sweetspot issue.

 

[infomon]

What's boxcancelling, then? And what the heck is a boxobair, anyway?

 

[Tenki]

boxcancelling is basically using a side-B charge after finishing an aerial (there is alot of space after U-air and F-air) so you can SDJ, shield cancel, or spinshot as soon as you hit the floor. and boxobair is b-air under boxob's use.

 

[da K.I.D.]

i will attempt to get vids (tho ill proly fail

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Here's some delicious noob sauce question you guys can add to your steak

Fair was originally thought that it had reflecting properties (could reflect projectiles and stuff) I'm 99% sure it can't but can someone confirm this for me?

Which part of Sonic's body determines where an opponent is launched on the final hit of Fair? I sometimes accidently hit someone with a Fair and they end up going straight behind me instead of infront

 

[Chis]

Fair

Damage: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 4% 14% total

The last spin at the tip of Sonic's head has the knock back. Comes out fast and has good damage. If the opponent ends at Sonic's body (roughly) they'll be free easier and go the other way.

My answer in yellow.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Ah I see. Cheers. Enjoy your sauce

Would you like fries with that?

 

[ROOOOY!]

Basically works the same way as fsmash.
Whole body is a hitbox. If the opponent ends up like on your body all up in your grill or just slightly behind you they'll be launched backwards.

The reflection thing is interesting though, I don't know how it works. I've reflected auraspheres with it. Regardless, a SH fair is a pretty good way to eat projectiles without taking damage (Zamus' Stun Gun for example)

 

[Chis]

Aura spheres have reflective properties.

 

[ROOOOY!]

Yeah I know, I've seen quite a few multi-hit moves reflect it, not just Sonic's fair.
I doubt there's any other reflectable projectiles like that though.

 

[infomon]

There are some, like IC's ice shots.

 

[ROOOOY!]

Go Go Boxob!

Bair time.

Game start.

 

[Chis]

'Bair dive'

 

[thecatinthehat]

boxobair. [/life]

Only thing better than a fair to fair gimp is a bair to bair gimp.

 

[aeghrur]

B-air stagespike looks cool and is easy to pull off... sometimes.

 

[da K.I.D.]

boxcancelled boxobair into boxdive at low percentages, only works on tall characters

 

[ROOOOY!]

I've forgotten what a boxdive is, I feel a failure to the cause.
Please enlighten/forgive me.

 

[thecatinthehat]

spinshot > FF bair

 

[da K.I.D.]

spinshot to shielded back air to grab.

and yes that combo above was legit

 

[Chis]

boxcancelled boxobair into boxdive at low percentages, only works on tall characters

That's killing it.

It has a sour spot (9%), if the heal of the shoe hit you, you'll go the other way.

 

[Boxob]

Boxob cannot wait to get home to make actual posts.

jdskdskvf.

Boxdive is dair to bair frm really high up and hits

Spinshot to ff bair is boxcutter you ****ing scrubs.

 

[thecatinthehat]

lol I'm sofa king lost.

What's boxidizing again?

 

[da K.I.D.]

that one i legitamately forgot

 

[ROOOOY!]

Use **** I can comprehend or I may cry.

 

[da K.I.D.]

and boxcutting is spinshott to ff "shielded" back air, TO GRAB. who's the scrub again?

GTFO

 

[~TBS~]

ROOOY's picture makes the screen look weird. lol
and i know what kids talking about. he is telling the truth.

 

[da K.I.D.]

maybe i should make a guide or something...

Boxing:
boxdiving:
boxidised boxcutting:

 

[Napilopez]

Oohh Sonic's gloves have a pretty cool texture, I want gloves like those =/

And umm yea, lets try to refrain from speaking Boxonese.

Bair is awesome. It is rather disjointed, and it has more range than it might seem at first sight. Sow startup, but it has virtually no ending lag upon landing.

RARing Bairs is too good.

Running off the stage into Bair stagespike is too good.

At low percentages, SHFF Bair, then run and grab opponent. Also viable at higher percentages if you're opponent uses bad DI. why SHFF Bairs when you'r opponents are spamming dtilts or somethnig with Downwards DI, too good.

 

[Sonic-Fan]

b-air is such a lovely creature.

so satisfying to b-air some one after a spring jump or a spin dash combo.

 

[Kinzer]

Bair is too good, even without all the Box techniques.

It may have a lot of start-up lag, but it isn't Sonic's 3rd best K.O. move for nothing.

The hitbox is disjointed at his body.

Using it as a retreat/approach is just dandy, when can you NOT use it?

I've sent people the opposite way, it has funky stuff just like Fair does.

Falcon Kick >= Sonic's Bair.

That's all I can come up with, other than this.

They are crazy.

 

[~TBS~]

Kinzer what the...never mind. yeah bair from the down b spin dash is the best ending combo in like 2 seconds.

 

[ROOOOY!]

I'm pretty particular about wording.
It's Sonic's 3rd strongest KO move, in knockback terms.
I'd say it's 2nd best, it's more applicable in a lot of situations than dsmash.

 

[thecatinthehat]

It's 1st for me. I can't get F-smash to hit for the life of me.