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No, you wouldn't. That is, unless you want to overshoot your attacks so you can get hit by a lot things than just Fsmash.
I dunno about "one of his best moves" but its not his actual best, considering Fair, Dair and Uthrow beat out Fsmash by a long shot in B+.
who are you to tell me what i am and am not capable of mid-match?
Name one thing about Sonic that's frightening enough that I'd be SCARED of underspacing on the same level of Peach's Dsmash.
Fsmash is the only thing he has that can even come CLOSE to landing him a KO.
I left all my notes on this thread and in the backroom. Its not hard to at least start from there and see what there is left to address afterward.
Then how come they aren't being discussed at all?
Comboing into an 18 frame, horribly weak kill move with only average total range? You're gonna have to find some serious hitstun to pull that off. Good luck with that.
It's SONIC. Once again, there's nothing to fear. You can go ahead and space as ****ty as you want and he won't be able to do much of anything back. What the hell is he going to do if you mess up your spacing? Uthrow? It's not like he has any good combos. Sonic SUCKS.
Wow, wow wow wow wow. You're wrong again. Zelda's Fsmash is FAST, it's BIG, it's DISJOINTED, and it's much safer on block. If it somehow connects with all of the hits, it's also much stronger than Sonic's Fsmash. If it doesn't, she's completely safe from retaliation due to the fact that she has virtually no cooldown. Mario's Fsmash is FAST, it's STRONG, and it's DISJOINTED. It's an amazing KO move with its range as well, something that Sonic's laggy fsmash will never be able to take advantage of as long as it stays at 18 frames.
Yes he is, and yes he is. He IS that nonthreatening. He is ****. He has nothing going for him outside of raw ground speed and a near ungimpable recovery (off the bottom, at least). He has no good combos. He has no tools. He has no range. He has no kill power. He has no damage racking. He has no pokes. He has no air-to-air combat. He has no anti-air. He has above average air speed but poor air mobility and acceleration. He has no projectiles. He has no way to force an approach. He has no disjoints of note. He has no good, fast attacks. He has no strong punishers. He has no ways to shut anyone down ever at any point at all. Sonic is ****.
You've already been ground pounded by others here but I am really beginning to question if you even play sonic or even against a good one. Sonic mains don't use the fsmash because it is awesome or even exceptional, we use it because our options for ko'ing fall between fsmash, nair, uair and bair (kos for non gimping situations). Uair is nerfed due to B+ physic changes, nair is hard to land and crap on kb for the effort, bair is soild but hardly a move that can be pulled off in all situations, and fsmash which we are talking about.
O and this. This a million ****ing times. Nearly all of sonic's options are shut down when the opponent goes into a camp mode or waits for you to make the first move. You are truly doing something wrong when you are going ballistic on Sonic and heavily offensive. Why in the hells would anyone attempt to throw out moves that are heavy on lag against a character who's heavy on punish and bait with a side of crap priority is beyond me.
There's too much misinformation about stuff I'm really not talking about. Ground pounded by what? My point is that of all things that may or may not need changing with Sonic, his Fsmash is not one of them at all. Having overly high expectations for his Fsmash is a problem because it's already a good move, really no worse or better than other Fsmashes, when he has plenty of other moves to consider adding kill power to including Usmash which doesn't really do anything atm.
The effort is... the same. Or less, given that Sonic's Fsmash lean is better and thus can goad more ground moves. His hits way harder than hers, and reaches farther, similar speed, better lean, so wtf. The only real advantage Peach's Fsmash has is significant disjointedness for anti-air which is complicated by the fact that her Fsmash does very different things each time, and frying pan having no reach.
It's a good move used exactly in the same way as Mario's and Zelda's Fsmashes. If you can hit with those, you can hit with this. That's bigger than most people think because the situations you would use these moves are not far different between them at all. They don't even need to be close to playing hyper aggressively to be vulnerable to them a decent number of times. It's a good thing we already forgot about DS, an actual Sonic player since that's the only merit you're looking for, knowing how to use this. The only reason I'm even annoyed is that Sonic's Fsmash is even suggested to be buffed when it's already a good move. Go ahead and make another RC1 Ness.
There is no need to take images when you can use sizes and offsets
