Arash
Smash Lord
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SoCal Power Rankings (October 28, 2007)- Will the update ever happen?
- Thread starter EdreesesPieces
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araknophobik
Smash Master
lol Imagine...
MrPBody
Smash Journeyman
xDARKLINKx
Smash Ace
lol hahahhhh.
mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
hahahahahaha. that was too good.
MorbTheLuigi
Smash Ace
MikeHaze didn't i 3 stock you today
dude put them videos from yesterday up already i wanna remanice!!!
gots ta look back
Morb for top 20? hahaha j/k
dude put them videos from yesterday up already i wanna remanice!!!
gots ta look back
Morb for top 20? hahaha j/k
LuCKy
Smash Master
mango for top 20 in the west minester bi weekly he beat ultra luigi,wolf,arash and others he got fith i belive but he is too good
nublet06
Smash Lord
yeah a few more tournaments like that...and he will def make it. all kinds of crazy new players coming out of nowhere. smash is tooooooo goooooooood.
Arash
Smash Lord
socal is getting too good now...
i need to step it up
i need to step it up
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
You need to not show up to a bi weekly hung over 
LuCKy
Smash Master
mrPbody u r kool and all but mango four stocked u the first day u met him if u remember lol thats 1 of the many reasons mango should be top 20 ..................rofl four stock
AznChefii
Smash Journeyman
mrPbody u r kool and all but mango four stocked u the first day u met him if u remember lol thats 1 of the many reasons mango should be top 20 ..................rofl four stock
hahahah oscar told me that he got 4 stocked before by mango, but i mean its friendlies and ive four stocked oscar in friendlies before too
LuCKy
Smash Master
maybe but that was like the first day mango came into the smash comunity and had no tourney xperience or anything just friendlys with me for like a year and a half and to four stock some guy that was ranked @ that time mango is good and really should be on the list but i guess the problem is who is going 2 leave when he beats more big people
nublet06
Smash Lord
well dont be dissapointed if he doesnt make it next list. there are so many people that are on the verge of making it. and when people are THIS new to the community...sometimes it takes a while to figure out something......for instance lets say mango was really bad agaisnt marth and people started counter picking, it might really mess up his results.
mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
friendlies don't matter..mrPbody u r kool and all but mango four stocked u the first day u met him if u remember lol thats 1 of the many reasons mango should be top 20 ..................rofl four stock
i think ROFL stated that already, so im probably reapeatign other people..
DEHF will be ranked someday..
Aesis
Smash Ace
I was looking at NorCal Power Rankings thread and Sheridan brought up a good talking point that they're discussing right now, actually.
This is what he posted:
Discuss?
I agree with Sheridan on all points, except maybe the amount minimum. Smashers aren't rich, and I don't think having to gamble $5 every time you want to challenge is appealing to most of the community.
Personally I haven't given it too much thought because I am too lazy to think about it right now.
(btw I'm sure the SoCal panelists have already discussed this so it's not copypasta ^_^)
This is what he posted:
(Posted on Page 53 of NorCal Power Rankings thread)
Discuss?
I agree with Sheridan on all points, except maybe the amount minimum. Smashers aren't rich, and I don't think having to gamble $5 every time you want to challenge is appealing to most of the community.
Personally I haven't given it too much thought because I am too lazy to think about it right now.
(btw I'm sure the SoCal panelists have already discussed this so it's not copypasta ^_^)
emerican
Smash Ace
-I agree because it does somewhat simulate a tourney match because people are gonna have the attitude of "****, this guys gonna take my money if i dont step it up"
-I also think it holds more credibility rather than "i beat player x many times in friendly matches" and eliminates the "i was sandbagging" john.
also.. in some cases, a person may not ever face someone in a tourney match to get a chance to show what they can do...
-and in rare cases, well known players wont even think about playing a match with an unknown player unless its for money.
-I also think it holds more credibility rather than "i beat player x many times in friendly matches" and eliminates the "i was sandbagging" john.
also.. in some cases, a person may not ever face someone in a tourney match to get a chance to show what they can do...
-and in rare cases, well known players wont even think about playing a match with an unknown player unless its for money.
Arash
Smash Lord
i don't know what the opinion is on the entire panel, but i personally think that unless it's for like $10 or higher money matches shouldn't count
why $10? well it's obvious that if it's too low, like $1, then neither party is guaranteed to care too much about it. it's up for debate whether or not $5 is too low, but i would like to think that the players would earn enough to cover the tourney cost, and usually it's like $10-20 depending on the tournament.
if both players are poor and really try over the $5, though, then i suppose it is on the same level as a tournament match... but again that's just my opinion.
why $10? well it's obvious that if it's too low, like $1, then neither party is guaranteed to care too much about it. it's up for debate whether or not $5 is too low, but i would like to think that the players would earn enough to cover the tourney cost, and usually it's like $10-20 depending on the tournament.
if both players are poor and really try over the $5, though, then i suppose it is on the same level as a tournament match... but again that's just my opinion.
DieSuperFly
Smash Lord
Money matches???
My opinion on money matches:
They are far too difficult to track. Any attempt to consider every money match between ranked players during a rankings period is doomed to fail. And, as Arash points out, people just aren't motivated to win low-dollar money matches. In fact, most of SoCal seems to think that the correct action after winning a money match is to play another to give your opponent a chance to win it back. If that's the case, how can we really say both players are trying to their fullest?
Of course, there are truly times when two players participate in a money match and play their best, and we can't blindly throw those results away. So if someone were to approach me and say "Hey, so and so beat me in a $5 money match. It was really close, but the rules were legit and he did a great job to take me out. I think you should consider that for power rankings"; how could I ignore that?
So that's my opinion on the subject. I frankly don't care if Jay just beat Fabian in yet another money match. But if you beat someone big and that person tells me about it, then I will definitely bring it up in the panel.
I dunno how the other panelists feel.
They are far too difficult to track. Any attempt to consider every money match between ranked players during a rankings period is doomed to fail. And, as Arash points out, people just aren't motivated to win low-dollar money matches. In fact, most of SoCal seems to think that the correct action after winning a money match is to play another to give your opponent a chance to win it back. If that's the case, how can we really say both players are trying to their fullest?
Of course, there are truly times when two players participate in a money match and play their best, and we can't blindly throw those results away. So if someone were to approach me and say "Hey, so and so beat me in a $5 money match. It was really close, but the rules were legit and he did a great job to take me out. I think you should consider that for power rankings"; how could I ignore that?
So that's my opinion on the subject. I frankly don't care if Jay just beat Fabian in yet another money match. But if you beat someone big and that person tells me about it, then I will definitely bring it up in the panel.
I dunno how the other panelists feel.
wait i never said i beat fabian in a mm =( lol ^_^ mms are hard to track tournies seem to be the best way thats how it was with david he was beating ranked ppl in mms all over the place but his tourney placings were still low so if some1 new beats a lot of ranked ppl but has poor tourney performance it doesnt look to good ^_~ i did beat fabian in tourney though ^_^ but i lose to anyone ranked when i play them so it doesnt matter lol
nublet06
Smash Lord
thats because jay is king of the noobs.
mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
no, i am..
nublet06
Smash Lord
well hugs is like the only panelist left. lol he just throw something together whenever he feels like from now on.
StuperDuperMan
Smash Journeyman
Lets start discussing the old panelists who are getting off of the panel and who should potentially replace them. I don't think it should necessarily be by one per crew, but i do agree that input needs to come from people of good minds, not of ******** bias. hence, hugo is no longer a panelist lol jk. but in all honesty, since panda/cao? are no longer gonna be panelist, i personally nominate edrees (if you guys dont think 2 deepsocal is a horrible idea). Him being from my crew has nothing to do with it really, he is just 1) sensible 2) well acquainted with the so cal smashers 3) has OOS experience 4) can be trusted to put rankings appropriately.
ive also talked a lot to ROFL about smash (**** talk? hahaha jk) and i think if palmdale needs representation, then im going to definitely have to go with ROFL.
id say right now, im really comfortable with HugS, Nealdt, and Arash on the panel since they seem to be most professional. Ken's input would be great, but he seems mad at the panel from his posts so thats his choice if he wants to continue. and didn't panda say hes resigning?
Champ, learn English hahahaha jk.
well this is just to get the ball rolling.
e40 out... whoops thats not me hahaha sorry evan that **** is too funny LOL
ive also talked a lot to ROFL about smash (**** talk? hahaha jk) and i think if palmdale needs representation, then im going to definitely have to go with ROFL.
id say right now, im really comfortable with HugS, Nealdt, and Arash on the panel since they seem to be most professional. Ken's input would be great, but he seems mad at the panel from his posts so thats his choice if he wants to continue. and didn't panda say hes resigning?
Champ, learn English hahahaha jk.
well this is just to get the ball rolling.
e40 out... whoops thats not me
hahaha sorry evan that **** is too funny LOL
nublet06
Smash Lord
lol heck no i shouldnt be on the rankings. the only good thing about me is ill always be online to revise the list, because im on way too much. (im the only reason neal even has to sign on for moding) besides that people will just get angry for me placing myself in the top 5 every time. plus i hate a lot of people and will try my best to get them off the rankings. **** YOU BOA
edrees for sure tho. he doesnt get in any arguements with people to create some sort of bias. i think hes a nice fit for a position.
edrees for sure tho. he doesnt get in any arguements with people to create some sort of bias. i think hes a nice fit for a position.
i think i should be a panalist i know a lot about socal since i play with a wide range of socal from pdale to compton ^_~ and im not really biased towards anyone since im not in a crew and im online a lot lol. plus im in like 5 ppls sigs thats 2 clean ^^
HugS
Smash Champion
You aren't in a crew joe?
What happened to the "Black Card Playas" ?
What happened to the "Black Card Playas" ?
Arash
Smash Lord
i second edrees as a possible panel member...
a palmdale-ian would probably also work to our benefit
a palmdale-ian would probably also work to our benefit
Aesis
Smash Ace
For Palmdale I would like to nominate ROFL or myself ;D.
Both ROFL and I are acquainted with the rest of the SoCal community, but I suppose I'm more versed with its history? If that even matters.
But yeah, ROFL has more time, I'm currently getting ***** by school. I would definitely make it if we were to convene though.
Better yet, how about two Palmdale? It's not like we think we're soooo much better than Deep Socal or Superfriends. We've already shown we can hang!
Both ROFL and I are acquainted with the rest of the SoCal community, but I suppose I'm more versed with its history? If that even matters.
But yeah, ROFL has more time, I'm currently getting ***** by school. I would definitely make it if we were to convene though.
Better yet, how about two Palmdale? It's not like we think we're soooo much better than Deep Socal or Superfriends. We've already shown we can hang!
REL
Smash Apprentice
Too many panelists = long time to deliberate. I say just bring in two to replace Cao and Panda. Definitely Edrees cause of the reasons everyone else has stated, and his awareness of the San Diego scene. And with all the up-and-comers from Palmdale, someone needs to keep track of that lonely desert town. ROFL or Aesis, either can do the job.
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
Well not that it needs to be said anymore, but Edrees is the man for the spot. I agree with REL, except we should probably just replace the 2 or 3 missing panelist with just Edrees. Too many chefs take 4 months to bake a new power rankings.
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