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So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

ch33s3

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Good bye IC boards. It's been fun.

It's been like the epitome of cognitive dissonance playing tech support for you guys the last few months. Such a thrill every time there's a discovery, but sad because it's such a waste in some respect.


I'll check in now and then.

But for the most part, this is good byeeeeeeeee
Request to leave denied.
 

EverAlert

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****in' boss, now I don't need to feel obligated to visit here anymore. see y'all at my next tri-monthly poke-around. I may or may not make/update threads but in the meantime I'll be chillin elsewhere with luxie.
 

Sieguest

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Loooool. I love how with Lux's exodus from the boards, the boards shall die once again.

I guess it's time to hit up the TL and Pika boards. :bee:
 

B0NK

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Good bye IC boards. It's been fun.

It's been like the epitome of cognitive dissonance playing tech support for you guys the last few months. Such a thrill every time there's a discovery, but sad because it's such a waste in some respect.


I'll check in now and then.

But for the most part, this is good byeeeeeeeee
Peac e
 

TheSaintKai

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Good bye IC boards. It's been fun.

It's been like the epitome of cognitive dissonance playing tech support for you guys the last few months. Such a thrill every time there's a discovery, but sad because it's such a waste in some respect.


I'll check in now and then.

But for the most part, this is good byeeeeeeeee
:/
(Lux), why are you leaving?
 

Smoom77

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It happens all the time. Since fox's hurtbox was extended out, and the ICs tethered sorta horizontally, it hit fox. When belay hits a hurtbox on the way to the ledge, Popo will fly up the stage.
 

Sieguest

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It happens all the time. Since fox's hurtbox was extended out, and the ICs tethered sorta horizontally, it hit fox. When belay hits a hurtbox on the way to the ledge, Popo will fly up the stage.
That's not completely true (It may just be a misunderstanding based upon using certain words rather loosely, but just to be clear). Popo's recovery is actually nerfed when Belay comes into contact with a hurtbox on the way to a ledge (or when used in any sort of way). He only travels a small fraction of the vertical distance he normally would. His horizontal momentum is affected by what angle he's at compared to Nana whenever she does her now wimpy tug on the rope.
 

Sieguest

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>.< Let me get a link to a thread that should help. To be honest though, you should read the "stickied" threads (they have blue tacks on them) before you start asking questions, because more than likely, they've been answered in one of those stickies.

Edit: Start with
this.
Then I suggest you'd go
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243922here.

Actually, that's a bit backwards, but eh.

 

Mr.Plant

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>.< Let me get a link to a thread that should help. To be honest though, you should read the "stickied" threads (they have blue tacks on them) before you start asking questions, because more than likely, they've been answered in one of those stickies.

Edit: Start with
this.
Then I suggest you'd go
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243922here.

Actually, that's a bit backwards, but eh.

Thnaks all request for friend your helpful and i could help you !
 

Sieguest

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ch33s3

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I am officially convinced that IC dittos are purely luck based if both players are of fairly equal skill.
 

00-Zero

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Similar IC skill, maybe. But that's rare to see. I say that because considering all the aspects to this character, (cg's, desyncing capabilities, adaptability, composure, actual player ability/reading ability) you don't often see IC players that totally match in skill. I've played with almost everyone on the chat,(online) aside from you and a couple others that don't really get on the chat often, and I can honestly say that every one of them plays the MU differently. If you can learn how to take advantage of how they desync, you can get a really good advantage in the match.
Granted, I haven't played with them in a few weeks or so lol, but I managed to get a couple friendlies in offline with a few people that had pocket or secondary IC's.
 

Roller

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Lain has convinced me that there is an art to IC dittos. Obviously he is at higher skill level than I am. However he knows the perfect punishes for each situation, and with his ability to read players as well as he does I've seen him 3 stock other ICs in finals matches at MI tourneys.

Of course there can always be lucky gimps, but on the whole I think that it is a matchup that depends more on skill than many people think.

For instance, since I have plenty of IC ditto practice vs Lain, and Lux doesn't really have other ICs around him to play with (excluding Fino's, and idk how often they ditto) when we were playing at Pound I won virtually every time we played dittos. And we played a lot of dittos. Lux is most definitely better than I am (and every other ICS imo) at desynching. I am a bit better at cging (obv not important in the mu as long as you can at all), and other than that we are close enough to even.

The only explanations I can think of for the outcome of our friendlies then, was either continuous choking by Lux, or my extra knowledge of the mu.

I also played vs darkflame (another ic's that I hadn't heard of, but Lcancel tells me gets top 2 in his area). Again, we were pretty equal in skill, judging from the matches I was watching of him vs others. And once again I was coming out on top.

Cheese however, got the best of me in pools. And although there was a lucky gimp or 2 involved, he is a better player than I am as of now. And I attribute the loss to that.

tl;dr- there's more to :popo: dittos than meets the eye.
 

ch33s3

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I dunno Roller, while greater player skill obviously factors in, as I only dropped a game of IC dittos to chu at pound (and chu is just a ditto god and I have no way to explain it), when it's two good players with a basic knowledge or more of the ICs, it really is a pure tossup, the IC main is no more likely to win.
 

Focus

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Hi :)

I'm new and want to be the best Ice Climber possible.
Who do I talk to if I want to start?

I am a beginner and not good yet.

And what is an IC ditto?
 

Sieguest

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Hi :)

I'm new and want to be the best Ice Climber possible.
Who do I talk to if I want to start?
Anybody. (Anybody who is willing that is...)




And what is an IC ditto?
See below. This man gets it. V

its where you use a secret button combination to have pokemon trainer send out a ditto and it turns into the ice climbers. hence an ice climber ditto match
In all seriousness though, an IC ditto is when its Ice Climbers vs. Ice Climbers.(Because ditto means "same" and you have a character fighting themself, hence "ditto")
 
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