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So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

Hylian

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I got 1st seed in pools at whobo. Top 3 get out out of 8.

My pool:

1st: Hylian
2nd: Tyrant
3rd: Smoom

I beat everyone in the pool. I 2-0ed tyrant and 2-1ed smoom.

Bracket is tomorrow.
 

Smoom77

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Yeah I got third seed. I went 1-2 with Tyrant and Hylian. JV4'd a GW in pools too.

I lost to domo first round, he's way too good at the matchup.
Then I beat Fliphop (Diddy), Zori (olimar), and Mr.Doom (Ike).
Then I lost to logic 1-2. The games that he won were like pretty solid wins, and the one I won was a solid win too.

Really good tourney. I got 13th/139. Alright for my first national?
 

2-DJeff

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i just got 3rd at a FL tourney again well last time i got 4th so same thing pretty much but umm some one should teach me how to fight peach. like i need a video of cheese or someone doing the buffer upsmash after peaches dair
 

ch33s3

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I'm officially free if you go Snake, it seems. I need someone to teach me this matchup lol. I poke safely as I can, and then slip once, blow up, take 900 more damage from explosions, and die to random utilt or a c4.

It's no fun.

I've also figured out some ideas for MKs (not that it seems we need it lately with Hylian doing MAD work), I'll potentially post later, or I'll discuss it first then put it up on the boards. I took some stuff Hylian advised me off and massively built on it. I'm sort of thinking ICs actually end up winning on 3 or 4 stages and going even on one. Which is a massive turnaround of my opinion of 7:3 against us.
 

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I'm officially free if you go Snake, it seems. I need someone to teach me this matchup lol. I poke safely as I can, and then slip once, blow up, take 900 more damage from explosions, and die to random utilt or a c4.

It's no fun.

I've also figured out some ideas for MKs (not that it seems we need it lately with Hylian doing MAD work), I'll potentially post later, or I'll discuss it first then put it up on the boards. I took some stuff Hylian advised me off and massively built on it. I'm sort of thinking ICs actually end up winning on 3 or 4 stages and going even on one. Which is a massive turnaround of my opinion of 7:3 against us.
dude ill teach you that MU if you teach me the peach MU :D
reason why i know the snake MU because its like snake city in FL
thats why esam and seibrik etc.. are so good at it also
 

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i just got 3rd at a FL tourney again well last time i got 4th so same thing pretty much but umm some one should teach me how to fight peach. like i need a video of cheese or someone doing the buffer upsmash after peaches dair
Is Kyon the one you are having trouble with? He didn't seem that great at the matchup when I was playing with him at Pound V. I just kept squalling him in the air and pivotgrabbing when he landed without fair. aka bair or something. I beat him like the first 3 times I played him in a row, then started sandbagging and he got a game or 2 off of me, but honestly he was not that tough at the matchup in comparison to other peaches I've played. King Beef for instance was kicking my *** when we played at poud, and Mikey Lenetia beat me in pools this weekend.


Just try squalling him a lot. it should work.

Good **** to Smoom btw, how did Hylian do after pools?
 

Hylian

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I could have done a lot better. I think i would have gotten 9th or 7th if i hadnt lost in winners 2nd round, but no johns.

I pulled a swordgard and 3 stocked inui game 1 with 14% and then lost the set lol. Mad choking :( lol. I then lost to esam in losers to get 25th. Esam planked me the entire time lol, not much i could have done, i tried everything and then last stock i ran off the edge to fair on a read and nana tripped and i just died off the edge.

Smoom, thats like one of my mw brackets lol, ive played all the people you played a lot.
 

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Is Kyon the one you are having trouble with? He didn't seem that great at the matchup when I was playing with him at Pound V. I just kept squalling him in the air and pivotgrabbing when he landed without fair. aka bair or something. I beat him like the first 3 times I played him in a row, then started sandbagging and he got a game or 2 off of me, but honestly he was not that tough at the matchup in comparison to other peaches I've played. King Beef for instance was kicking my *** when we played at poud, and Mikey Lenetia beat me in pools this weekend.


Just try squalling him a lot. it should work.

Good **** to Smoom btw, how did Hylian do after pools?
really? was it a friendly? because he hardcore sand bags in friendlys to the point where i 3 stock him but squall and piviot grab when he lands without fair. never even crossed my mind imma try it next tourney because he always stops me from getting higher in the top 5
 

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really? was it a friendly? because he hardcore sand bags in friendlys to the point where i 3 stock him but squall and piviot grab when he lands without fair. never even crossed my mind imma try it next tourney because he always stops me from getting higher in the top 5
They were indeed friendlies, but I only stepped in after watching him beating up on Lux. So he had to have been at least in somewhat of a trying mode. But he really was just not answering aerial squall approach like at all.

But once he starts learning the matchup more, Peach is a *****. Her frametrap **** is so annoying. GL
 

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Just going to say, you know the match up better if you've played as the other character. I use to main peach, so that match up is a bit easier for me than other IC's just because i know what to expect. but really, it's 2nd nature and something i can't really give details on the matchup :/ it's sad :(
 

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Yea i see what you mean but peach is so hard to play she looks good but shes really not. I think i coulda beat him with falco but i had to much IC pride
 

ch33s3

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Just going to say, you know the match up better if you've played as the other character. I use to main peach, so that match up is a bit easier for me than other IC's just because i know what to expect. but really, it's 2nd nature and something i can't really give details on the matchup :/ it's sad :(
This is why my random button gets a workout. Playing other characters and getting punished AS them shows you what to punish lol.
 

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If I go to CEO, I'll MM your ICs with a bunch of (viable) characters.
such as snake, peach, and rob? sure ill do that thats if i go to CEO because i may be in new zeland for rugby lol. like i said i dont play much because of rugby and football but i didnt play football and rugby season was done during early start of the year i was able to attend alot of tourneys and get my IC up but yea NP if i go to C.E.O. find me in the SSF4 section because i dont think im entering Smash maybe melee though
 

ch33s3

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such as snake, peach, and rob? sure ill do that thats if i go to CEO because i may be in new zeland for rugby lol. like i said i dont play much because of rugby and football but i didnt play football and rugby season was done during early start of the year i was able to attend alot of tourneys and get my IC up but yea NP if i go to C.E.O. find me in the SSF4 section because i dont think im entering Smash maybe melee though
Mmkay, it's a bit far off.
 

ch33s3

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Is Kyon the one you are having trouble with? He didn't seem that great at the matchup when I was playing with him at Pound V. I just kept squalling him in the air and pivotgrabbing when he landed without fair. aka bair or something. I beat him like the first 3 times I played him in a row, then started sandbagging and he got a game or 2 off of me, but honestly he was not that tough at the matchup in comparison to other peaches I've played. King Beef for instance was kicking my *** when we played at poud, and Mikey Lenetia beat me in pools this weekend.


Just try squalling him a lot. it should work.

Good **** to Smoom btw, how did Hylian do after pools?
Roller, stop comparing yourself to my ICs:
1. They are bad

2. When I played Kyon, he and I were playing much differently than we did in tourney. I was just sitting there trying to Nair OoS the whole time to practice timing it. I'm not sure what he was doing, but he and I were laughing half of the time at things so I'm sure he wasn't trying either.

Smoom is currently my hero because he out placed everyone else.

If I come back, I have some new shenanigans to show you guys. :) :) :)

Love,
(Lux)
 

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Ill try what you said roller but im 100% sure kyon was sand bagging because he sand bags like 80% or more in friendly's like no lie. you can ask him. If you want him to try semi hard play him in a MM for a dollar. wanna have him play his hardest catch him early in bracket or at the end of brackets But imma still try your solution
 
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