Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Arcanir]

While your statement is true, I believe that if we have to have cuts (and I don’t think we do but whatever) characters like Ike and Lucario are on the chopping block. Sure they have “unique” gameplay, but a new character could always do the same thing but better. And while legacy is definitely important, Ike and Lucario just aren’t that big in the grand scheme of Nintendo or Smash. I really don’t think this sheild of iconography extends beyond characters from Melee or 64.

Er, Lucario isn't the best example, at least from a general perspective. He is one of Pokemon's biggest mainstays and has had a constant presence since his debut back in 2005, appearing consistently in the games, anime, movies and merchandising. Hell, he managed to get into the Super Bowl commercial celebrating the series' 20th anniversary, being the only non-Gen 1 Pokemon to do so.

You can argue whether or not its popular as a Smash character as he's been polarizing (mostly for something that wasn't even its fault), but as a Nintendo character he's probably higher then the most of the current Smash cast.

 

[Deleted member]

Give me more Fire Emblem, give me more Pokemon. As long as they're interesting I don't even care.

Smash has got me into a LOT of games that I normally wouldn't try simply because I saw a character and thought their moveset and appearance looked interesting.

The ONLY reason I bought Xenoblade 2 is because I mained Shulk in Sm4sh, and now Xenoblade is one of my favorite series of all time.

The ONLY reason I got Kid Icarus Uprising is because of Pit in Brawl.

The ONLY reason I've ordered Samus Returns and a New 3DS is because Samus in Smash is cool as heck.

And the ONLY reason I'm also probably gonna end up picking up FE Awakening for that 3DS is because I like Chrom and Lucina in Smash (Robin's cool too)

If they're interesting, then it's a win in my book. I don't even care about fanmade conceptions on which series has too many or too little. I just want fun characters in the game.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Er, Lucario isn't the best example, at least from a general perspective. He is one of Pokemon's biggest mainstays and has had a constant presence since his debut back in 2005, appearing consistently in the games, anime, movies and merchandising. Hell, he managed to get into the Super Bowl commercial celebrating the series' 20th anniversary, being the only non-Gen 1 Pokemon to do so.

You can argue whether or not its popular as a Smash character as he's been polarizing (mostly for something that wasn't even its fault), but as a Nintendo character he's probably higher then the most of the current Smash cast.

Oh. The more you know.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Fire Emblem is cool. And obviously it has more characters that would make awesome Smash characters (Medeus please!!!). But the other franchises need to balance it out. It felt like we had a lot in 4 because so many franchises that have been super important for years had like, nobody (Donkey Kong and Metroid at 2 characters each was a crime).

I think of it less as "The more reps you have, the bigger franchise you are", and more so "this franchise has a lot of potential movesets to choose from"

Sakurai usually likes choosing character based on their moveset potential...

Two perfect examples I can give are and . When revealed, both were reviled from the community because they weren't highly requested, and were yet another Mario/Pokemon character... Yet Sakurai has said the reason he chose these two, was moveset potential. Sakurai saw Rosalina and Luma, and thought of the concept of a puppet fighter, while Incineroar was chosen because Sakurai saw potential in a wrestling moveset...

Imo, at the end of the day, the amount of reps, doesn't matter, if anything the amount of reps just show how much potential there is to pull from.
And if we're being honest, choosing characters because "this franchise needs more", usually opens up to unoriginal and uninteresting movesets, when there are other characters that have way more potential...

 

[Deleted member]

YOU LITTLE ****ING ***** GET YOSHI AND WARIO OUT OF THE MARIO SERIES

inb4 "but Yoshi debuted in Mario!!!!!"

Like by that logic Mario should be in Donkey Kong's series in Smash lmao

 

[Pakky]

OHLAWDHECOMIN

Thiccer than Wario

 

[Deleted member]

inb4 "but Yoshi debuted in Mario!!!!!"

Like by that logic Mario should be in Donkey Kong's series in Smash lmao

I know, right?!

Oh, by the way, I just got the "Friends With Everyone" trophy! Thanks for 2,500 likes, everyone! :3

 

[Pakky]

Some truth

 

[Deleted member]

Some truth

how could you say something so controversial yet so brave

 

[Luigifan18]

taking a dark turn here on smashboards, the website about super smash brothers


also don't wish sexual assault on people what the **** is wrong with you

First of all it was clearly 4kids.

Second holy **** what the **** is wrong with you, what made you into this vile person? Get help

People really care about Net Neutrality. It being gone is a very dangerous prospect for the entire internet.

Net Neutrality is an extension of freedom of expression, which is a critical safeguard against abuse of power. Plus, I despise corporate powerbrokers screwing over customers and employees to make more money, which is exactly what is on the verge of happening if the repeal of Net Neutrality is allowed to stick. And if Net Neutrality is reinstated (which is quite likely to happen, given all the grassroots movements pushing Congress to undo Ajit Pai's repeal), it won't be enforced if Ajit Pai is allowed to remain in charge of the FCC, so he needs to be stripped of every last ounce of his power and influence ASAP before he can compromise the American Constitution any more than he already has. I highly doubt China, North Korea, Iran, and other human-rights dumpster fires have Net Neutrality...

 

[Cosmic77]

Er, Lucario isn't the best example, at least from a general perspective. He is one of Pokemon's biggest mainstays and has had a constant presence since his debut back in 2005, appearing consistently in the games, anime, movies and merchandising. Hell, he managed to get into the Super Bowl commercial celebrating the series' 20th anniversary, being the only non-Gen 1 Pokemon to do so.

You can argue whether or not its popular as a Smash character as he's been polarizing (mostly for something that wasn't even its fault), but as a Nintendo character he's probably higher then the most of the current Smash cast.

I can't speak for everyone, but I've always seen Lucario as "that one character who nobody plays as but is so iconic and popular to his series that you'd never suggest cutting him in a future Smash game".

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

If there's something I like more than a cool character from a series I know getting in Smash, its a cool character from a series I don't know getting in Smash. Being introduced to new series is always a delight.

 

[Deleted member]

Net Neutrality is an extension of freedom of expression, which is a critical safeguard against abuse of power. Plus, I despise corporate powerbrokers screwing over customers and employees to make more money, which is exactly what is on the verge of happening if the repeal of Net Neutrality is allowed to stick. And if Net Neutrality is reinstated (which is quite likely to happen, given all the grassroots movements pushing Congress to undo Ajit Pai's repeal), it won't be enforced if Ajit Pai is allowed to remain in charge of the FCC, so he needs to be stripped of every last ounce of his power and influence ASAP before he can compromise the American Constitution any more than he already has. I highly doubt China, North Korea, Iran, and other human-rights dumpster fires have Net Neutrality...

bro net neutrality is an issue but not a large enough issue to show off dog-whistle homophobia and also wish **** onto somebody

 

[Opossum]

Net Neutrality is an extension of freedom of expression, which is a critical safeguard against abuse of power. Plus, I despise corporate powerbrokers screwing over customers and employees to make more money, which is exactly what is on the verge of happening if the repeal of Net Neutrality is allowed to stick. And if Net Neutrality is reinstated (which is quite likely to happen, given all the grassroots movements pushing Congress to undo Ajit Pai's repeal), it won't be enforced if Ajit Pai is allowed to remain in charge of the FCC, so he needs to be stripped of every last ounce of his power and influence ASAP before he can compromise the American Constitution any more than he already has. I highly doubt China, North Korea, Iran, and other human-rights dumpster fires have Net Neutrality...

Your stance on net neutrality isn't what people were disgusted at...

 

[Luigifan18]

bro net neutrality is an issue but not a large enough issue to show off dog-whistle homophobia and also wish **** onto somebody

I’m not homophobic in the least, I just want something extremely unpleasant to happen to Ajit Pai. Considering that he'll gleefully send the 99%'s quality of life down the ****ter to line the pockets of his corporate overlords, he absolutely deserves it.

 

[Deleted member]

The Article 13 scandal is more important than Net Neutrality at the moment, imo. We should stand against it these days.
And no, i’m not British. Brexit won’t change anything for me in regards to that.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

If there's something I like more than a cool character from a series I know getting in Smash, its a cool character from a series I don't know getting in Smash. Being introduced to new series is always a delight.

Same here, I got interested in Pokemon, and got introduced to Zelda, Mega Man, and Kirby thanks to Smash...

Net Neutrality is an extension of freedom of expression, which is a critical safeguard against abuse of power. Plus, I despise corporate powerbrokers screwing over customers and employees to make more money, which is exactly what is on the verge of happening if the repeal of Net Neutrality is allowed to stick. And if Net Neutrality is reinstated (which is quite likely to happen, given all the grassroots movements pushing Congress to undo Ajit Pai's repeal), it won't be enforced if Ajit Pai is allowed to remain in charge of the FCC, so he needs to be stripped of every last ounce of his power and influence ASAP before he can compromise the American Constitution any more than he already has. I highly doubt China, North Korea, Iran, and other human-rights dumpster fires have Net Neutrality...

We aren't here to talk about political topics

We're here to talk Smash Bros

So let's drop this conversation before it gets too out of hand

 

[Deleted member]

We aren't here to talk about politics

We're here to talk Smash Bros

So let's drop this conversation before it gets too out of hand

Thank you

 

[Noipoi]

Net Neutrality? In my Smashboards?

It's more likely than you think.

Free PC check!

 

[Deleted member]

If Article 13 doesn’t get approved, i will be excited to see all the Little Shop of Horrors parodies online done with Piranha Plant gameplay.

 

[dezeray112]

There's a 50% Chance that she'd be another Marth semiclone
and we do not want that

Umm....as someone who had played Lyn's game on the Game Boy Advance, I have to disagree with this.

 

[Pakky]

Uh Oh politics! Better break the glass.

 

[Roberk]

Net Neutrality is an extension of freedom of expression, which is a critical safeguard against abuse of power. Plus, I despise corporate powerbrokers screwing over customers and employees to make more money, which is exactly what is on the verge of happening if the repeal of Net Neutrality is allowed to stick. And if Net Neutrality is reinstated (which is quite likely to happen, given all the grassroots movements pushing Congress to undo Ajit Pai's repeal), it won't be enforced if Ajit Pai is allowed to remain in charge of the FCC, so he needs to be stripped of every last ounce of his power and influence ASAP before he can compromise the American Constitution any more than he already has. I highly doubt China, North Korea, Iran, and other human-rights dumpster fires have Net Neutrality...

Wow guys remember that time all of the Nintendo characters and iconic third parties got together in a party game to celebrate gaming history with tried and true platformer fighting? Wow, that was fun, I wish there was a place where we could talk about that and only that.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

We need a direct announcement pronto!

 

[Deleted member]

Wow guys remember that time all of the Nintendo characters and iconic third parties got together in a party game to celebrate gaming history with tried and true platformer fighting? Wow, that was fun, I wish there was a place where we could talk about that and only that.

Sorry, this thread is used for the production of the Little Shop Of Horrors musical starring Piranha Plant.

You can join the casting for some of the roles, doh,

 

[Noipoi]

Thread lock down in 3...2...

 

[Pakky]

Also best girl

 

[Deleted member]

Uh Oh politics! Better break the glass.

thanos was right

 

[Robertman2]

GUYS SCORPION'S NEW MK11 BACKSTORY LEAKED

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Ah! Found something to lighten the mood. Look at this Pikachu!

⚡️Pikachu⚡️
https://t.co/AvGoPVES26 pic.twitter.com/Q0deS0aHYk

— Raf Grassetti (@rafagrassetti) January 15, 2019

Spoiler

*screeching off in the distance*

 

[Deleted member]

We need a direct announcement pronto!

I need these things:

>New UA3 trailer featuring the Fantastic Four and some of the modes in the game.
>The Fantastic Four update for Spidey PS4.
>CTR Nitro Fueled.
>Nintendo Direct.
>Piranha Plant release.
>K.Rool amiibo.
>Godzilla King Of The Monsters.
>Some figures of Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan.
>Dark Samus amiibo.
>Article 13 not getting approved.

 

[Luigifan18]

Same here, I got interested in Pokemon, and got introduced to Zelda, Mega Man, and Kirby thanks to Smash...

We aren't here to talk about political topics

We're here to talk Smash Bros

So let's drop this conversation before it gets too out of hand

Thank you

Agreed.

Net Neutrality? In my Smashboards?

It's more likely than you think.

Free PC check!

Hey, if Net Neutrality is killed, this site could end up as a casualty.

Uh Oh politics! Better break the glass.

What the actual **** is that?!

Wow guys remember that time all of the Nintendo characters and iconic third parties got together in a party game to celebrate gaming history with tried and true platformer fighting? Wow, that was fun, I wish there was a place where we could talk about that and only that.

Don't we have political sub-forums for political talk? Any further Net Neutrality discussion ought to go there.

 

[Noipoi]

Ah! Found something to lighten the mood. Look at this Pikachu!

⚡️Pikachu⚡️
https://t.co/AvGoPVES26 pic.twitter.com/Q0deS0aHYk

— Raf Grassetti (@rafagrassetti) January 15, 2019

Spoiler

View attachment 186890*screeches off in the distance*

Jeez, that screech was pretty piercing...

 

[Deleted member]

Ah! Found something to lighten the mood. Look at this Pikachu!

⚡️Pikachu⚡️
https://t.co/AvGoPVES26 pic.twitter.com/Q0deS0aHYk

— Raf Grassetti (@rafagrassetti) January 15, 2019

Spoiler

View attachment 186890*screeches off in the distance*

oh sweet jesus ridley's gonna look terrifying, I can't wait

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

delete please

 

[Pakky]

Ah! Found something to lighten the mood. Look at this Pikachu!

⚡️Pikachu⚡️
https://t.co/AvGoPVES26 pic.twitter.com/Q0deS0aHYk

— Raf Grassetti (@rafagrassetti) January 15, 2019

Spoiler

View attachment 186890*screeching off in the distance*

*Looks a Ridely*

OHLAWDHECOMIN!

 

[Deleted member]

Can't believe I'm saying this but

Mods! We need you now!

Lock down the thread if you need to

eh the thread seems fine now lol it's just people ****posting like usual

 

[Pakky]

eh the thread seems fine now lol it's just people ****posting like usual

I have never done that ever D:<

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Uh Oh politics! Better break the glass.

I didn't need my eyes anyway...

 

[Deleted member]

Some truth

“Ho ho ho ho Sorry syrup but there’s only one pirate gal worthy enough to be in the smash roster and that’s me!!!”