Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Shroob]

Guys, I just realized how bad our new additions are as role models for our children:

Ridley promotes death and destrucrion
Inkling promotes graffiti and vandalism
Daisy promotes plagiarism and identity theft
Simon promotes destruction of ancient relics
Richter promotes anti-monster bigotry and warmongering
King K Rool promotes unhealthy lifestyles and gluttony
Isabelle promotes vampirism

That one's already too late for every *ahem* neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd convention I've ever been to.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

So, if we do have a dedicated Smash Direct, what would be your realistic hopes for announcements? Mine would be 1 unique fighter (hopefully Geno, Elma, Incineroar, or Shantae), 2 echoes (any combination of Shadow, Funky Kong, and Toon Zelda), details on the Spirits mode, and a demo announcement.

At least 3 characters minimum, 5 maximum.
Spirits Mode details
Trophies returning

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

I still think we're not getting anything at all this week.



I just want to watch the world burn.

Another Shadow supporter?

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Guys, I just realized how bad our new additions are as role models for our children:

Ridley promotes death and destruction
Inkling promotes graffiti and vandalism
Daisy promotes plagiarism and identity theft
Simon promotes destruction of ancient relics
Richter promotes anti-monster bigotry and warmongering
King K Rool promotes unhealthy lifestyles and gluttony
Isabelle promotes vampirism

Okay mod, stay still just for a brief moment, this won't take long...
*snap*
Thanks!

Putting Shantae anywhere near Geno seems like a mistake to me

Your other guesses check out. I refuse to say Geno has a high chance of being in though as I don't want to jinx it.
Consider Shadow.

But what about WF's silence? Don't you think that they might be under a NDA?
Don't destroy me

 

[TheCJBrine]

Guys, I just realized how bad our new additions are as role models for our children:

Ridley promotes death and destruction
Inkling promotes graffiti and vandalism
Daisy promotes plagiarism and identity theft
Simon promotes destruction of ancient relics and breaking and entering without a lawful document
Richter promotes anti-monster bigotry and warmongering
King K Rool promotes unhealthy lifestyles and gluttony
Isabelle promotes vampirism

Yoshi promotes Tax Fraud.

Kirby needs to help him with his problem.

 

[SonicMario]

Isabelle promotes vampirism

Ok I kind of want context on this lol

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Guys, I just realized how bad our new additions are as role models for our children:

Ridley promotes death and destruction
Inkling promotes graffiti and vandalism
Daisy promotes plagiarism and identity theft
Simon promotes destruction of ancient relics and breaking and entering without a lawful document
Richter promotes anti-monster bigotry and warmongering
King K Rool promotes unhealthy lifestyles and gluttony
Isabelle promotes vampirism

Incineroar promotes cheating
Ken promotes spamming

 

[Luigi The President]

Okay mod, stay still just for a brief moment, this won't take long...
*snap*
Thanks!

But what about WF's silence? Don't you think that they might be under a NDA?
Don't destroy me

Just this once

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Am I the only one thinking this week might be the last batch of characters revealed? Like it does fit.

69: Incineroar (Pokemon episode that aired on Sunday)
70: Geno or Steve

38e: Shadow (10th anniversary since Sonic was announced for Brawl)
60e: Ken

Realistically this maybe it or maybe only Incineroar and Shadow will be revealed for those reasons as a duo reveal.

 

[Luigi The President]

Am I the only one thinking this week might be the last batch of characters revealed? Like it does fit.

69: Incineroar (Pokemon episode that aired on Sunday)
70: Geno or Steve

38e: Shadow (10th anniversary since Sonic was announced for Brawl)
60e: Ken

Realistically this maybe it or maybe only Incineroar and Shadow will be revealed for those reasons as a duo reveal.

This isn't realistic because they have 59 days of marketing and no matter how you put it, characters are what people come to Smash for.
Why drop the finale 2 months in advance.

 

[Noipoi]

Guys, I just realized how bad our new additions are as role models for our children:

Ridley promotes death and destruction
Inkling promotes graffiti and vandalism
Daisy promotes plagiarism and identity theft
Simon promotes destruction of ancient relics and breaking and entering without a lawful document
Richter promotes anti-monster bigotry and warmongering
King K Rool promotes unhealthy lifestyles and gluttony
Chrom promotes incest
Dark Samus promotes intoxication and overdosing on Phazon.

Man, this is pretty funn-

Isabelle promotes vampirism

wat?

 

[Meritocracy]

*whistles in an impressed fashion* dang, I can't leave for a second can I?
With the release of Mario Party, I've returned to an idea I've had about how this year Nintendo has been pushing party games, so we're getting a party-spinoff game rep, but with both daisy and waluigi out of the way, I had no idea, but whadda 'bout toad? Obviously toad dosen't need party games for a good move set, but he officiated/hosted most of them
Just a thought exercise, don't actually think it's gonna happen

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Ok I kind of want context on this lol

She’s uses her clumsy cuteness to suck out your life force in order to prolong her already unnatural life,

Trust me, I know someone from nintendo. My uncle’s friends college room mate. He told me that Isabelle and Simon will be enemies in the Spirits Mode. Sorry but I don’t have any pics.

 

[FalconFire93]

I am willing to bet a large sum of money that should we get Inceneror and Ken that some the following will be featured in thier trailer, gameplay preview, or website photos:

- Inceneror will be together with Nacho Libre Pikachu
- Inceneror will be going against Little Mac on Boxing Ring.
- at some point, he will jump from the ropes and land with a body slam.
- obligatory picture with Ken.
- Ken poses with Damus, Chroy, Larth, Dit, Richtmon, and Deachy.
- Ken stands next to Zamus in Tomodachi Life.
- Ken and Ryu performing a back to back Hadoken.

Ah, Deachy, Peach’s distant cousin and Larth, Marth’s secret twin brother.

 

[Deleted member]

Isabelle promotes vampirism

Wait, what?

She’s uses her clumsy cuteness to suck out your life force in order to prolong her already unnatural life,

Trust me, I know someone from nintendo. My uncle’s friends college room mate. He told me that Isabelle and Simon will be enemies in the Spirits Mode. Sorry but I don’t have any pics.

Ah.

 

[Autobot N]

Y'know in regards to Pokemon, not being able to evolve certain 'mons in the Gen 1 remakes is something that kinda bugs me.

"Golbat is evolving!"

"...oh?"

. . .wat.

That's honestly one of the main reasons why this'll be the first game in a while that I won't buy this.

 

[domriver]

I still think we're not getting anything at all this week.



I just want to watch the world burn.

Into the fire yes.......into the fire.

 

[Deleted member]

Incineroar promotes cheating

And being rude and violent. Basically a heel.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

This clickbaity mother ****** coverd a "leak" someone here made and another separate leak

 

[SonicMario]

*whistles in an impressed fashion* dang, I can't leave for a second can I?
With the release of Mario Party, I've returned to an idea I've had about how this year Nintendo has been pushing party games, so we're getting a party-spinoff game rep, but with both daisy and waluigi out of the way, I had no idea, but whadda 'bout toad? Obviously toad dosen't need party games for a good move set, but he officiated/hosted most of them
Just a thought exercise, don't actually think it's gonna happen

I kinda hope Captain Toad ends up as DLC. His cameo on New Donk City has sunk his base game chances. But he's still possible post-game.

And what with Toadette getting so much promotion lately. She might very well be Captain Toad's Echo rather then just an Alt. Maybe even with a Peachette final smash

 

[Deleted member]

This clickbaity mother ****** coverd a "leak" someone here made and another separate leak

And you're giving him free views by drawing attention to it and posting it here.

Way to go, buddy.

 

[lightdrago]

This clickbaity mother ****** coverd a "leak" someone here made and another separate leak

So your plan to go against such click-baity videos is to spread them even further, giving him more views? Great idea!

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

And of course you people take what I said too seriously :/

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

This clickbaity mother ****** coverd a "leak" someone here made and another separate leak

"Leaker with REAL credibility"
lol
Might as well say that you found Boss Baby in Smash bros

 

[Roberk]

I realized that the protagonist of Fire Emblem Three Houses is this Guy:

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I’m worried, aside from Awakening (which has all three characters, albeit two of them echoes) Fire Emblem usually adds the main protagonist. And the protagonist is Byleth, who is the teacher of the other three characters (Dimitri, Edelgard, Claude).

Although I do like Byleth, he is another sword wielder, and I think adding him is going to lead to a lot of salt seeing how people don’t want any more FE characters with swords. Not to mention that Sakurai may not even want to include him because of that.

Although we still don’t know everything about the game, I feel that FE: Three Houses may not get a character because of that. Unless Sakurai decided to use the three characters next in line like the aforementioned Edelgard, Dimitri, and Claude since they all include something unique, which is possible seeing how we did get Robin as a unique fighter because of that as well, so there is a chance we get one of them instead.

I think Byleth and the trio shown off in the first trailer will be the most important characters in the game, they are the pool to choose from when it comes to Three Houses (though if FE gets a DLC character then Sakurai should totally just go for pure fanservice and add Hector since he has a lot of renewed relevance and popularity from Heroes but that's just me.)

Byleth is 99% confirmed an avatar character, since they don't speak while other characters do, Edelgard is referring to him as "teacher" in an ambiguous way rather than referring to him by name, and official marketing refers to Byleth as "your protagonist" rather than "the protagonist". It's not all doom and gloom though. Just look at the pics you posted: he doesn't have (explicitly) blue or white hair, he has a unique color palette, and he has a neat little dagger that can possibly be a part of his moveset. Also, Three Houses seems to have Combat Arts like from SOV, so he'll have a plethora of animations to choose from other than standard attack animations. We'll have to wait for the game to come out to determine if he's the next Robin or Corrin character-wise though.

Byleth's real draw, however, is being the teacher of the 3 main characters (Edelgard, Dimitri, and Claude). These three are likely a package deal, so why not implement them into 1 moveset a la Pokemon Trainer? We get axes (Edelgard), lances (Dimitri), and bows (Claude), a weapon-variety enthusiast's wet dream. Also, we'd get racial diversity, sexual diversity, and most importantly, hair color diversity.

I'm gonna wait until the game actually comes out to support these characters (even then I'll probably just stick with Hector), but just from analyzing the one trailer, I wouldn't count them out just yet. Could be a real improvement compared to the previous "obligatory MCs" Sakurai has chosen from when it comes to relevant characters.

 

[TheCJBrine]

This clickbaity mother ****** coverd a "leak" someone here made and another separate leak

"leaker with REAL credibility!"

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

My problem with LaxChris isn't just clickbait. I don't care if he gets views, it's the fact that he believes literally everything he lays his eyes on.

 

[Meritocracy]

I kinda hope Captain Toad ends up as DLC. His cameo on New Donk City has sunk his base game chances. But he's still possible post-game.

And what with Toadette getting so much promotion lately. She might very well be Captain Toad's Echo rather then just an Alt. Maybe even with a Peachette final smash

Mabye (intentional) toadette over toad? hmmm? just somethin to thunk about

 

[MainJPW]

I really do not like where Shadow is putting the Chaos Emerald in when he does that pose.
I know that is a robot, but still.

It's not explicitly shown to be coming from Omega but-

He's got a Disc Drive for Emeralds apparently...so it's fine.

 

[FalconFire93]

And being rude and violent. Basically a heel.

Don’t forget, he’s also a bit nasty according to this video.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

My problem with LaxChris isn't just clickbait. I don't care if he gets views, it's the fact that he believes literally everything he lays his eyes on.

It's called lying...

 

[Gyrom8]

So, if we do have a dedicated Smash Direct, what would be your realistic hopes for announcements? Mine would be 1 unique fighter (hopefully Geno, Elma, Incineroar, or Shantae), 2 echoes (any combination of Shadow, Funky Kong, and Toon Zelda), details on the Spirits mode, and a demo announcement.

- Starts with a character reveal (probably Incineroar - not a fan, but I'm resigned to it and hopefully we'll get a new Pokemon stage to boot)
- As with the last direct, the echo fighters are revealed fairly early on (either just Ken or Ken plus one other)
- Somehow, another character is revealed (echo or original, I'm maintaining that there's a character that hasn't been leaked and may not even have had much of a presence in speculation)
- Montage of Final Smashes which haven't been shown yet
- Montage of alt costumes (hoping for Outlook Link, more Odyssey costumes, other Pikmin captain alts etc.)
- Remaining stages are shown off
- Stuff on online mode (hoping for ranked online and expecting it at this point)
- Longest section of the direct is explaining Spirits and briefly going over the returning modes
- Maybe for a big finish, the last thing is showing off a DLC character ('we said we've shown every fighter, however...); but feel that it might still be a little early to be showing off DLC. I'm only confident that they'll want to end big in the direct, as they did in the last direct and at E3.

Other general hopes are that one of the unrevealed stages (if we are getting any) is a retro stage for ROB. I also have hopes for the un-leaked character, though most of them are unrealistic.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Guys, even if we don’t get an announcement or a reveal of any kind this week, don’t worry too much about it. It is still the beginning of October so there is still time for us to get something before we enter the danger zone of leaks which is November. Just a bit of patience can go a long way even though it’s hard at this point.

 

[lightdrago]

My problem with LaxChris isn't just clickbait. I don't care if he gets views, it's the fact that he believes literally everything he lays his eyes on.

I doubt that. I've never watched any of his videos (as many of you should since it's just clickbait), but he posts and covers them to get views for his channel, which some people here are all too willing to give even though they hate his content...

 

[Robertman2]

Incineroar
Ken
Shadow
Sora/Lara Croft
Steve

That's the base roster

 

[Deleted member]

It's not explicitly shown to be coming from Omega but-

He's got a Disc Drive for Emeralds apparently...so it's fine.

I know, but Shadow put that near Omega's crotch in that gif.

This clickbaity mother ****** coverd a "leak" someone here made and another separate leak

You should have not send that trash in here. >: (

 

[SonicMario]

Mabye (intentional) toadette over toad? hmmm? just somethin to thunk about

I get Toadette's gotten quite a bit of promotion. But it would be so weird if the male Toad doesn't come with her in some fashion.

(At this point though I bet Toad fans would settle for Toad being an alt of Toadette where Toadette is even the default character)

 

[Fatmanonice]

Putting not 1, but 2 7th Gen Pokemon is the kind of stuff that would create a lot of rage an dissapointment. Both Lucario and Greninja were poorly received (mostly because it wasn't Mewtwo). Putting Incineroar AND Zeraroa over the bunch of characters people are hoping for would create such salt...

Oh boy!I almost hope its true!.

Eh, the Pokemon request pool is pretty shallow this time around. Decidueye was the only Pokemon that had any real backing but then all but collapsed when Verge suggested it didn't make it. Every other Pokemon fanbase has been small and barely vocal this time around. Brawl easily had the most Pokemon fanbases going at each other: Blaziken, Sceptile, Gardevoir, Lucario, Blastoise, etc, hell, even Gengar had a notable Smash fanbase back in the day. Coincidentally enough, eventually all of them wound up in Pokken so...

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

I doubt that. I've never watched any of his videos (as many of you should since it's just clickbait), but he posts and covers them to get views for his channel, which some people here are all too willing to give even though they hate his content...

No, I absolutely mean it. He literally does this everyday and I'm almost positive he actually believes them. He even made a Livestream of him waiting for the video of one of the leaks.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I feel differently. I don't think there's enough characters left to justify a Robin/Lucina reveal. Back in Smash 4 we still had many characters both veterans and newcomers yet to be revealed at the time. The Robin/Lucina technically revealed Captain Falcon's return as well. But here, we already have all the veterans. And there's likely not too many newcomers left (5 at most is what I'm thinking right now, and all 5 (or less) could be revealed in the final direct for base game reveals)

I’m pretty sure the difference with smash 4 and ultimate is

1 character revealed instead of 3

And I think the rest of the base and dlc character number 1 will be November