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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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I'll probably be MIA for the next several days as I try to focus on my internship that I've been slacking in.
I imagine everyone will be talking about Vergeben's Musical Box for the next several days so I may not miss much but if something major happens I'll probably pop in.

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I was gone for five days during the box art theory.
I'm starting to believe that the only thing I missed were a few headaches.
 

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I'll probably be MIA for the next several days as I try to focus on my internship that I've been slacking in.
I imagine everyone will be talking about Vergeben's Musical Box for the next several days so I may not miss much but if something major happens I'll probably pop in.

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Likelihood of unique newcomer based on music theory imo:

1. Pokemon
2. Xenoblade
3. Sonic
4. Kid Icarus
5. Mother
6. Star Fox
7. Punch Out
8. Game & Watch/Wii Fit - not happening as there's no one to choose from.

We have 11 weeks left with 9 veteran series with their own emblem in the music list without a track. If they all get one, that leaves 2 weeks for unrepresented series/new series...also could get a new Mii-related track as well. Plus possibly a Mario Kart track that takes a week,

Getting kind of tight with potentially 0-2 open weeks left for music in the current way it is being handled.
:ultpikachu::ultshulk: definitely getting unique newcomers (some Pokémon alongside Elma or Rex and Pyra/Mythra) either in the base game of dlc, :ultsonic::ultfox::ultlittlemac: getting a newcomer can go either way (unique, semi, echo all works out for the two series. Tails, Shadow, Amy, Eggman, Slippy, Peppy, Glass Joe...Mike Tyson), and :ultpit::ultness: at the best will get echoes (Viridi/Medusa and Ninten)
 

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Hello Smashboards, and Welcome to Smash Theory!

So now we have music theory seemingly looking legit, which seems to support box theory given that the newcomer pool is drastically reduced in response...

If the theory is indeed right, then that means no more newcomers (excluding echoes) from :ultlink::ultryu::ultsamus::ultinkling::ultfalcon::ultkirby::ultmegaman::ultsnake::ultsimon::ultdk::ultmarth::ultyoshi::ultmario::ultolimar::ultvillager:.

And we know these series have the same amount of music as before, making a newcomer unlikely unless the song list got revamped (which imo is unlikely): :ultbayonetta::ultgnw::ultcloud::ulticeclimbers:

These guys are put in the 'Other' category in the music menu, which also makes a newcomer unlikely: :ultduckhunt::ultrob::ultmiifighters:

And that leaves us with the remaining newcomer pool to draw from these series: :ultfox::ultness::ultwario::ultwiifittrainer::ultsonic::ultshulk::ultpikachu::ultpit::ultpacman:

On the plus side, that Happy Home Designer remix is banging! I didn't think AC would ever get electric music outside of K. K.
 

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So, you're saying he's lying.


Because I literally cannot see anything else here.



Vergeben said "I heard from all my sources."


You're saying "That's his opinion."
I'm starting to doubt if this is a conversation.
I personally feel he does have sources that at least at one point were correct. But I wont pretend that it is fact.

That said, my point is that he may have been correct on what has happened- it does not indicate he is going down the same path moving forward. And an change of argument, even if it is a change in his sources' statement, indicates a level of movement in reliability.
 

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Farewell, i'll keep the Dr Pepper cold for you.
I need Premium so I can change that tagline I made when I was heavily binge drinking Dr. Pepper... I have been clean for 3 months now c:


And I miss it badly.
I was gone for five days during the box art theory.
I'm starting to believe that the only thing I missed were a few headaches.
Mmm, pretty much. Every time there was an opening in the conversation that wasn't about boxes someone would be like "MAAAAN ARE WE STILL TALKIN ABOUT BOXES UP IN HERE?????? LMAO!"
 

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Hello Smashboards, and Welcome to Smash Theory!

So now we have music theory seemingly looking legit, which seems to support box theory given that the newcomer pool is drastically reduced in response...

If the theory is indeed right, then that means no more newcomers (excluding echoes) from :ultlink::ultryu::ultsamus::ultinkling::ultfalcon::ultkirby::ultmegaman::ultsnake::ultsimon::ultdk::ultmarth::ultyoshi::ultmario::ultolimar::ultvillager:.

And we know these series have the same amount of music as before, making a newcomer unlikely unless the song list got revamped (which imo is unlikely): :ultbayonetta::ultgnw::ultcloud::ulticeclimbers:

These guys are put in the 'Other' category in the music menu, which also makes a newcomer unlikely: :ultduckhunt::ultrob::ultmiifighters:

And that leaves us with the remaining newcomer pool to draw from these series: :ultfox::ultness::ultwario::ultwiifittrainer::ultsonic::ultshulk::ultpikachu::ultpit::ultpacman:

On the plus side, that Happy Home Designer remix is banging! I didn't think AC would ever get electric music outside of K. K.
Pac-Man has the Galaga remix. So that would mean around 3 potential new IPs for playable characters.
 

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I'm starting to doubt if this is a conversation.
I personally feel he does have sources that at least at one point were correct. But I wont pretend that it is fact.

That said, my point is that he may have been correct on what has happened- it does not indicate he is going down the same path moving forward. And an change of argument, even if it is a change in his sources' statement, indicates a level of movement in reliability.
"I heard from one of my sources that it's Incineroar, but I've yet to hear back from the others."


"I've finally heard from all of them, and they all agreed that it's Incineroar."




I really don't even get what you're trying to say unless you're just trying to throw him under the bus here and say he's fake.


He waited until he heard back from everyone to confirm it's Incineroar, not that hard to fathom.
 

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Mmm, pretty much. Every time there was an opening in the conversation that wasn't about boxes someone would be like "MAAAAN ARE WE STILL TALKIN ABOUT BOXES UP IN HERE?????? LMAO!"
I don't even think its about an individual theory. What is most frustrating to me is the regurgitation of thought. There is nothing more disinteresting than a loud group of shrieking hens. Maybe a meow in there is just a nice conversation, just for entertainment sake.

Pardon double post. It's a phone.

"I heard from one of my sources that it's Incineroar, but I've yet to hear back from the others."


"I've finally heard from all of them, and they all agreed that it's Incineroar."




I really don't even get what you're trying to say unless you're just trying to throw him under the bus here and say he's fake.


He waited until he heard back from everyone to confirm it's Incineroar, not that hard to fathom.
I'm done. You are just yelling your same points back and not even reading what I'm saying.
 

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Has Bayo music been confirmed to be the same amount? If so then it could be replaced with a non represented series like Snipper Clips. I mean that could happen at any point so this isn't a good way to reflect future updates, but it works.

I'm not actively predicting a Xenoblade character, but it's interesting they're still safe.
Bayo's Count from Sm4sh to Ultimate has not changed.
 

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Let's take our minds off from all these """"theories"""" and post music you want to see added in Smash
I'll start
 
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Let's take our minds off from all these """"theories"""" and post music you want to see added in Smash
I'll start
I know it is not an option, but I think the opening to the 90s Xmen cartoon would be fun to smash against.
But to be fair, I want a mode where the gameplay changes based on the music. Crescendo makes more stage hazard, and the game ends at the song's finale.
 
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I'll probably be MIA for the next several days as I try to focus on my internship that I've been slacking in.
I imagine everyone will be talking about Vergeben's Musical Box for the next several days so I may not miss much but if something major happens I'll probably pop in.

Love y'all

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I'll probably be MIA for the next several days as I try to focus on my internship that I've been slacking in.
I imagine everyone will be talking about Vergeben's Musical Box for the next several days so I may not miss much but if something major happens I'll probably pop in.

Love y'all

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sakurai literally said he didn't know how to differentiate chrome from ike and marth. and he choose NOT to. chrome being in 4 wouldnt have gone well if he was like this either . we got 3 new FE charatcers and 2 are clones thats lame. thats not a reach at all thats exactly what would have happened
Did you even read the conversation for context, or even read my post that you quoted?

I was arguing how Chrom (it's Chrom, not chrome btw) isn't a waste of a "slot" in Ultimate when someone stating their unpopular opinion said that, in their opinion, adding Chrom was a waste of a "slot". I disagreed and replied stating how Chrom doesn't require many new assets or a unique moveset, making him less wasteful of Ultimate's resources, and that he had some merits of his own to be in the game like popularity. I'm not talking about Smash 4 at all.
 

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I don't even think its about an individual theory. What is most frustrating to me is the regurgitation of thought. There is nothing more disinteresting than a loud group of shrieking hens. Maybe a meow in there is just a nice conversation, just for entertainment sake.

Pardon double post. It's a phone.


I'm done. You are just yelling your same points back and not even reading what I'm saying.
Because I legit don't understand you.


If you think Verg's full of ****, that's fine and a fair point of view to have.


But don't be all artsy fartsy about it, just say "He may have had legit info, but now he's just a piece of ****."
 

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That would be amazing.

An F-Zero movie would be the perfect thing to revive it. With racing parts and of course FALCON PUNCH
I feel good knowing that Klonoa and Duke Nukem possibly have their movie plans in the pipeline, could give them an edge.

I'll probably be MIA for the next several days as I try to focus on my internship that I've been slacking in.
I imagine everyone will be talking about Vergeben's Musical Box for the next several days so I may not miss much but if something major happens I'll probably pop in.

Love y'all

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I'm tempted to take a break from this nonsense myself, I need to focus more on RetroAchievements and my game backlog. Cheers and see you around next time, Toaster.
 
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I don't even think its about an individual theory. What is most frustrating to me is the regurgitation of thought. There is nothing more disinteresting than a loud group of shrieking hens. Maybe a meow in there is just a nice conversation, just for entertainment sake.
Well that's the unfortunate thing about the lack of credible/realistic leaks. We can't really advance the conversation due to how little information the leaks actually gives and we can't divert attention to other leaks (because seriously who is going to believe a 4chan text leak these days). So we're left going around in circles.
 

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I know this is going to sound rude... and that's fine...
but some people are just more capable of being gullible.
The music theory could turn out to be accurate. It may even turn out to be true (intentional).
But there are just polarities in the smash speculation scene. Or in life.
The macrocosm mirrors the microcosm.
You're not wrong, there are plenty of people here that hate theories, hate when people try to find patterns, hate leakers. Most of them want to play the ignorance is bliss card.
 

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Because I legit don't understand you.


If you think Verg's full of ****, that's fine and a fair point of view to have.


But don't be all artsy fartsy about it, just say "He may have had legit info, but now he's just a piece of ****."
I've directly said my point, and youve ignored it. I told you my thoughts objectively, and Ive told you my opinions subjectively. I even broke down the disparity between the two in one of my previous posts to you. I dont know how else to say the same point.

And thats fine. We can go on. I'll still hit like on your future posts. I'm just not nurturing this repetition.
 

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You're not wrong, there are plenty of people here that hate theories, hate when people try to find patterns, hate leakers. Most of them want to play the ignorance is bliss card.
Or the "Goddamnit, just let me anticipate in peace!" card.
 

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Re: Costumes; We're going to get a minimum of 8 per character(cause 8 player-smash). We may get more than that again, but we also may not get only 8 or 16. Melee and Brawl had uneven numbers too. It's been inconsistent for the number, so who knows what'll happen.

Obviously we'd get music from the latest series after showing off a newcomer. But I don't understand the music theory entirely, just that an AC song was blatantly going to happen next. That doesn't require anything elaborate to figure out. Newcomers. They get a little information dedicated to them right away.
 
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Let's take our minds off from all these """"theories"""" and post music you want to see added in Smash
I'll start
Uncut Engage the Enemy, C-R-O-W-N-E-D, Decisive Battle! (N), Guile Stage, and anything Ace Attorney are the top songs I want within the realm of possibility.

If we take that out of the equation, give me Numquam Vincar, Absolute Configuration, and the entire soundtrack to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle.
 
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I've directly said my point, and youve ignored it. I told you my thoughts objectively, and Ive told you my opinions subjectively. I even broke down the disparity between the two in one of my previous posts to you. I dont know how else to say the same point.

And thats fine. We can go on. I'll still hit like on your future posts. I'm just not nurturing this repetition.

Because the way you post is like you're trying to write Shakespeare.


I'm autistic as ****, I don't even understand half the stuff you just said.


You gotta ELI5 me this kind of ****, because I don't get all the fancy, flowy words you're using.
 

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Oh, relevant topic of interest to me (and I hope others):
who is using the launched online service for Nintendo?
Voice your opinions and experiences.
 

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Did you even read the conversation for context, or even read my post that you quoted?

I was arguing how Chrom (it's Chrom, not chrome btw) isn't a waste of a "slot" in Ultimate when someone stating their unpopular opinion said that, in their opinion, adding Chrom was a waste of a "slot". I disagreed and replied stating how Chrom doesn't require many new assets or a unique moveset, making him less wasteful of Ultimate's resources, and that he had some merits of his own to be in the game like popularity. I'm not talking about Smash 4 at all.
But now we can talk about main slots and echo slots. Chrom took an echo spot and people are gonna be mad about that, too. Lol.

“Think of allll the possible echoes he screwed over!”
 

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Congratulations, we’re crashing. Quick, post inane stuff so we can move on to the next page!
 

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Why are we treating Music Theory as legit when Dark Samus, Ken, and Daisy clearly contradict this?
 
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