Social *sigh* oh the life of a Zelda main [A new zelda discussion zone]

[VietGeek]

we've done everything but give her a machine gun

i think nayru's love is close enough imho

for now

obv

I mean at that point, why not just play marth?

real talk:

there was seldom a moment where this statement didn't already apply to roy anyway

obv

 

[GKInfinity]

real talk:

there was seldom a moment where this statement didn't already apply to roy anyway

obv

That's kind of my point. They were similar to begin with and you made them even more similar. If you're able to alter the game, why not make Roy more unique?

 

[DerfMidWest]

They cant do animation hacks, only change move properties.

I has pichu question nowz:
Did you make his upB faster and give the first dash invincibility frames? Because thats honestly the only thing he needed.

 

[Deleted member]

whats the music from the video?

 

[Soloist]

It sounds like a heavily remixed Deku Palace theme. I mean at least the beginning does.

 

[GKInfinity]

They cant do animation hacks, only change move properties

Oh ok, that makes a lot more sense then

 

[TheLake]

Shout outs to Max Berger at the big house

smacking all western sackz falco

and tearing up the joint

very nice stuff bud :D

 

[Dark Hart]

lol western sack

he's got a cool Falco

but like woooooooooooow what a ****

 

[GKInfinity]

Maxwell2swell -- What a beast. We should team at Genesis 3

In other news, I got 3rd at a tournament yesterday with zelda. It was the first time I've ever gotten top 3 in a singles tournament that wasn't full of scrubs

 

[Soloist]

Nice. Who did you beat to get 3rd?

 

[Maxwell Too Swell]

Lol thanks guys! Hey Lake, I played some players from your region and they gave me their approval as a Zelda. Especially Vudujin.

 

[Dark Hart]

hell yea GKI

 

[Maxwell Too Swell]

If I go to G3 I'll consider it, GK. Unless TheLake goes because I asked him to team with me at like Apex 2012, but neither of us went. LOL

Double good Zelda team will happen at one of these nationals one day!

 

[BJN39]

Demo 1 character change lists out for SD Remix!

http://www.smashmods.com/forum/forum-196.html

And Wowzers! There are a lot of changes to Zelda!
Likely for the better tho...

 

[KirbyKaze]

Everyone always gives Ness the shine or some permutation of it.

If you haven't already, you should consider altering the damage values of his dash attack so the third hit (launcher) does 9% instead of whatever it is in Melee. This is for a few reasons, but the big one is to play around the 7% rule on knocked over opponents.

As a side note, I really wish PK Fire shot sideways in the air rather than diagonal. Didn't see that as one of the listed changes, so I'm gonna assume it didn't happen. It's just lame that a lot of the move's potential utility is weakened because you can't shoot Peach out of her float or Puff out of her bairs with it unless you get into a fairly vulnerable position that you generally don't want to be in. Coupled with the reduced landing lag that you guys suggested, this gives Ness a fairly reasonable way to zone someone and therefore doesn't need to be buffed much more in speed.

I like the changes on his Yo-Yos.



Getting rid of the landing hit on Kirby's dair and making it come out faster does more for him than tweaking the landing hit IMHO. Strictly downwards hitting moves are precious in this game, particularly if they have high duration because they can be used to beat crouch and get free follows off it. I'm interested to see how it's been tweaked though.

"It is now impossible to force Kirby to lose a copy ability" > Nice touch. I like this. I wish you could make the opponent leave the swallow in some amount of stun; the old 2007 Kirby combo of my youth was swallowing Sheik or Falco into u-tilt > bair > SH stolen projectile attacking their landing area > grab > d-throw > more stuff. It was incredibly illegitimate for at least four reasons but it was really fun to do; when people didn't know that swallowing them didn't give them stun the move took on a whole new utility. Would be cool if that was actually a legitimate purpose. Could be his "combo throw" on floaties.



As a general criticism, I like that some of the weaker projectiles (PK Flash, Din's Fire, etc) no longer cause characters to go into specialfall.

Green Missile: Misfire rate increased from 1/8 to 1/6

I hate you.

 

[TheLake]

Everyone always gives Ness the shine or some permutation of it.

If you haven't already, you should consider altering the damage values of his dash attack so the third hit (launcher) does 9% instead of whatever it is in Melee. This is for a few reasons, but the big one is to play around the 7% rule on knocked over opponents.

As a side note, I really wish PK Fire shot sideways in the air rather than diagonal. Didn't see that as one of the listed changes, so I'm gonna assume it didn't happen. It's just lame that a lot of the move's potential utility is weakened because you can't shoot Peach out of her float or Puff out of her bairs with it unless you get into a fairly vulnerable position that you generally don't want to be in. Coupled with the reduced landing lag that you guys suggested, this gives Ness a fairly reasonable way to zone someone and therefore doesn't need to be buffed much more in speed.

I like the changes on his Yo-Yos.



Getting rid of the landing hit on Kirby's dair and making it come out faster does more for him than tweaking the landing hit IMHO. Strictly downwards hitting moves are precious in this game, particularly if they have high duration because they can be used to beat crouch and get free follows off it. I'm interested to see how it's been tweaked though.

"It is now impossible to force Kirby to lose a copy ability" > Nice touch. I like this. I wish you could make the opponent leave the swallow in some amount of stun; the old 2007 Kirby combo of my youth was swallowing Sheik or Falco into u-tilt > bair > SH stolen projectile attacking their landing area > grab > d-throw > more stuff. It was incredibly illegitimate for at least four reasons but it was really fun to do; when people didn't know that swallowing them didn't give them stun the move took on a whole new utility. Would be cool if that was actually a legitimate purpose. Could be his "combo throw" on floaties.



As a general criticism, I like that some of the weaker projectiles (PK Flash, Din's Fire, etc) no longer cause characters to go into specialfall.




I hate you.

GTFO OUT OF HERE!

NOW!

 

[KirbyKaze]

You hate me when I'm hating low tiers, you hate me when I'm trying to help low tiers. There's no winning, is there?

 

[ShroudedOne]

"Green Missile: Misfire rate increased from 1/8 to 1/6"

AS IF MISFIRES WEREN'T ANNOYING ENOUGH ALREADY

 

[DRGN]

Sucks I couldn't go to the tournament last weekend, GK. That was only like the second or third TAG I've ever even missed, lol.

We didn't play each other in any singles in Galt, did we? I suppose someday we'll have to Zelda ditto, lol.

 

[VietGeek]

AS IF MISFIRES WEREN'T ANNOYING ENOUGH ALREADY

"a char isn't good enough until X people complain about him/her/it being homosexual"

- vietgeek (2007-2012)

obv

kirbykaze thanks for your input and ability to articulate well

especially the latter

cuz internets

obv

 

[GKInfinity]

Sucks I couldn't go to the tournament last weekend, GK. That was only like the second or third TAG I've ever even missed, lol.

We didn't play each other in any singles in Galt, did we? I suppose someday we'll have to Zelda ditto, lol.

Lol, when I was playing your bro in loser's finals a bunch of people were standing behind me saying 'Uh, you do know what character his brother plays, right?'

Yeah though, we'll definitely do zelda dittos in the near future. I think we have very different play styles in general from what I've heard from mutual friends.

 

[DerfMidWest]

"a char isn't good enough until X people complain about him/her/it being homosexual"

- vietgeek (2007-2012)

obv

Terrible logic because mario is the only nonhomosexual character in this game.

 

[Dark Hart]

Are you crazy Vanir?

Fox is so nonhomosexual

Fox totally gets it on with Krystal

 

[Dark Hart]

And before you all jump on my *** for saying Zelda ain't gay...

... I'm kinda down with her being gay

 

[Wake]

Only the good characters get to be gay.

 

[BJN39]

@Dark Hart: I think the term "Lesbagician" could be used to describe Zelda...

Or maybe, "Homedibroken"

 

[ShroudedOne]

And before you all jump on my *** for saying Zelda ain't gay...

... I'm kinda down with her being gay

Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

I also think Marth is straight. And still amazing.

 

[Wake]

Marth is as far from straight as one could possibly get.

 

[TheLake]

You hate me when I'm hating low tiers, you hate me when I'm trying to help low tiers. There's no winning, is there?

THERES ALWAYS WINNING CAUSE YOUR SHIEK

ROAR YOU JUST LIKE PICKING ON US

WITH YOUR WORDS

OF HATE!!!

I WONT STAND FOR IT KK!

Oh marth is gay

but like thats alright cause

his tip is amazing

but roys alot thicker

at the base of the blade

but at least when he sticks his blade in you

you go up

not away

so the lesson to take from this incredibly homoerotic onslaught of words

is even though higher tiers have more options

lower tiers are way better lovers

cause they are simple and effective

which is what we REALLY want

Simple

thick

sex

 

[Dark Hart]

Had me for a minute

You lost me at thick

<3 great lakes

 

[ShroudedOne]

There's more than one reason for why we use Zelda. :3

 

[BJN39]

There was a silver fish on the ceiling above my head in the shower today and it made me think of you guys. <3

 

[KirbyKaze]

Lake, I can beat you and Vudu with Fox too >.>

Don't hate Sheik.

 

[Soloist]

There was a silver fish on the ceiling above my head in the shower today and it made me think of you guys. <3

*Sigh* oh the life of a silverfish [A new silverfish discussion zone]

 

[BJN39]

*Sigh* oh the life of a silverfish [A new silverfish discussion zone]

^^^^^^^LOL This!

 

[EPsilon933]

There's more than one reason for why we use Zelda. :3

I love Nayru's love

 

[TheLake]

Lake, I can beat you and Vudu with Fox too >.>

Don't hate Sheik.

I dont hate shiek

Sheik is a part of zelda

so my love is there david

you just have to reach for it...

like the rest of us

 

[KirbyKaze]

That's like trying to not hate your sister's fiancee despite him being a giant prick (especially to you) because he makes her happy

Probably reasonable in principle, but rarely works out in practice

Unless he pulls an epic 180 you probably just continue to mutually dislike each other relatively quietly (like girls)

Tolerance =/= love

You hate Sheik, admit it!

 

[Deleted member]

tolerance is condescending.

i love both zelda and sheik. ignoring sheik and her benefits as a zelda player is scrubby IMO

that said, i still want to play you in zelda vs sheik.

hopefully you get kicked less than the other sheiks do lol

edit: why aren't you on aim? we both know that neither of us are sleeping any reasonable amount.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Memo to self: do not ask M2K how to beat Zelda

I'll probably crouch a lot, shield a lot, and throw needles. And use my good movement to grab you if you do something dumb, but realistically that won't happen much because I'm a campy biatch and you are too.

I'm just logging in now.