Social *sigh* oh the life of a Zelda main [A new zelda discussion zone]

[KirbyKaze]

so she'd go from like 20th to 18th? the run speed thing is only a very small part of her problem, and air control isn't in there at all.

 

[Deleted member]

you're right, but the "getting back to the ground" thing might actually describe the actual problem better.

and yeah a normal grab speed.

 

[Soloist]

Invincibility during all of her Up B frames would be nice.

PS: Did anyone check out the new OP in the video thread? It has received a much deserved makeover. If you would like me to add anything, tell me and I will do so.

 

[Zone]

It'd be nice if you could get out of her Up+B landing lag quicker through some sort of "trick" Similar to mewtwo. So It could be used in battle.

It'd be nice in general to make her near useless (not completely) moves into something useful.

Din's Fire
Nayru's Love
Up-air
Nair should be more consistent with leading into something when it shield pokes.
Grab >.>
Forward tilt (Only good in a tech chase/combo situations that the opponent can completely avoid if they know what they are doing and easily baited when thrown out as an attack)
Up tilt


I mean come on >.>

I agree that running speed is a big problem, but I don't want her quick and fast. That would take away from diversity.

I say just buff what she's got in a way that can cover her weaknesses, so she has tools for the big boy problems she's got.

 

[VietGeek]

ripple why would you forget that she has normal grab speed now

or that she has barlw u-air

what do i pay you for ;_; oh wait this is a thankless and payless task

yeah folks air control, aerial mobility, etc.

all those fancy english terms that one could mistakenly interchange

pfft all those things zeruda mains can have it all

in one piece

and yo zone a better run speed is only a comparison

barlw :sasukebowser: has a buffed run speed but that means jack

its okay though we love diversity down to the thousandths place

gg floating points

she has a good wd now too

we buffed dins fire too but melee hacking is like super limited so extensive b-move editing is impossible

no worries though

anime logic dictates love and justice will always prevail

so yeah 18th place is pretty srs

i like yall enthusiasm so reckon yall wanna play some hacked smash mayday

its named sd remix yo gimme a shout-out sugarcoated in high cynicism hate syrup and we can make zeruda the best 18th place char ever srsly

man it feels good to post like **** again

obv

 

[Ripple]

ripple why would you forget that she has normal grab speed now

or that she has barlw u-air

what do i pay you for ;_; oh wait this is a thankless and payless task

I never said what was actually in the hack

 

[VietGeek]

it's okay ripple

my love is unconditional

But yeah, if any of you want to get on the SD Remix boat early as a playtester and provide feedback on Zelda, that'd be cool. Just drop me a message of any sort, preferably in a language I know or one that can be fairly translated into English.

If you're hesitant because your Wii isn't hacked or whatever, I can help in that regard too.

obv

 

[TheLake]

I like this kids style ;D ^

 

[DerfMidWest]

yo its the mini-lake.

 

[Dark Hart]

Unconditional love



Legit

 

[EPsilon933]

Zone, Nayru's Love shouldn't be in that list unless you're asking for more than I think you are

 

[It's me Q]

Hey guys would you like to see what zelda would be like if she had more run speed and better air control? Because ihave a hack that shows how broken she would be

So any vids of hacked zelda?

 

[Dark Hart]

So are you the Q that wants captain J?

 

[VietGeek]

So any vids of hacked zelda?

Someone was playing her on this Smasher's Reunion stream: http://www.twitch.tv/smashfinland

 

[It's me Q]

So are you the Q that wants captain J?

Nah

10char

 

[Zone]

Zone, Nayru's Love shouldn't be in that list unless you're asking for more than I think you are

What can nayru's love do that powershield and Down-smash or kick can't do better at?

 

[DerfMidWest]

naryu's love is more boss than either of those moves.

 

[Dark Hart]

Someone say Nayru's?

 

[VietGeek]

nayru's love is blue

and reflects projectiles with the power of

too good

obv

 

[DerfMidWest]

Yooo naryu's is mad broken in p:m

Actually... Zelda is just mad broken in p:m

 

[Deleted member]

Yooo naryu's is mad broken in p:m

Actually... Zelda is just mad broken in p:m

she's like the running joke of the game but the PM team refuses to change her lol

 

[Dark Hart]

She's not that good in pm...

 

[Ripple]

she seems worse than in melee

 

[DerfMidWest]

except that she has the best defense game in P:M.
completely shuts down characters like Ganon and Charizard and non-projectile based characters.
Her combo game is also ridiculous. them 0-death combos are too silly.

although, I suppose she's seem worse if you try to play her like melee zelda, because she is definitely not the same character.

 

[Dark Hart]

She doesn't get close to shutting down Ganon, you're ********

 

[DerfMidWest]

are you joking?
Ganon can't handle that silly din's fire bull****

 

[Dark Hart]

Ganon is like top tier and Zelda is horrible

Din's fire isn't even that good, sure it's better, but that doesn't make it good. And good player will react to the initial animation and go in on you while you're 'din'ing and then he's pm Ganon so you're ****ing dead since ganon's ****ing broken in that game

Ganon and Lucas

You're beyond wrong

 

[DerfMidWest]

I didn't say Ganon was bad <_<
Zelda just *****.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Zelda is clearly at least high tier in pm, and i belive she has the slight edge on ganon, but her dins do not shut him down.

 

[GKInfinity]

If you don't think zelda is good in PM then I think you're using her incorrectly.

Dins in PM is similar to Dins in Brawl; people think it's better than it really is. You just need to learn how to deal with it. Dodge it or attack through it. It's definitely a useful move now, but it's not broken like some people think it is. I honestly don't even use it that much.

 

[DerfMidWest]

Zelda is clearly at least high tier in pm, and i belive she has the slight edge on ganon, but her dins do not shut him down.

I mean, I was exaggerating for the sake of argument, but point is: I think zelda beats Ganon. I would consider her to be a reasonable Ganon counter, actually.
She's probably not the best character in the game, but she is definitely up there.

 

[GOTM]

Let's get back to Melee talk P:M blows.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Pm is fun and zelda is good (melee still better)

 

[Deleted member]

If you don't think zelda is good in PM then I think you're using her incorrectly.

if you don't think PM zelda is good, you're not pressing buttons. zelda is ****ing ******** good. she's also basically top tier in teams...by herself.

edit: i agree that zelda beats ganon. zelda can actually dashdance camp ganon like melee marth can. that's....horrible ********.

 

[GKInfinity]

Yeah the first time I played project M was at Genesis 2. Things have obviously changed a bit since then, but without ever using her before or seeing what she was capable of I was able to take 6-8 stocks in every team game I played. Pretty much every attack she has is better now. Umbreon's right... you can pretty much win just by spamming random moves as long as you're spacing decently

 

[It's me Q]

She deserves it

 

[DerfMidWest]

she deserves to be good, but I don't know if she should be that good when other characters just get minor enhancements and only amount to melee mid tiers (i.e. Ness and G&W, who still suffer from their melee weaknesses)

 

[TheLake]

I use sonic

*flexes his low tier guns*

zelda is mad sexy to watch though

Melelda is still way sexier though

cause dem kix...mmmmhmm

with or with out milk

take your choice comrades!

 

[Dark Hart]

Kick

Push

Kick

Push

Coast

 

[GKInfinity]

she deserves to be good, but I don't know if she should be that good when other characters just get minor enhancements and only amount to melee mid tiers (i.e. Ness and G&W, who still suffer from their melee weaknesses)

The characters that haven't been buffed enough yet will have their moment, it just hasn't come yet