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Should Metaknight be Banned? **Take 2** (Post-podcast)

Should Metaknight be banned?


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JesiahTEG

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I'm going Snake next time. It's easier than fighting a match-up with MK that tornado sucks in that I don't understand at all. I just used tornado to beat Boss's strange characters but that doesn't work on Kirby.
*Sigh* He's gonna stomp your Snake. Let me know if you win.
 

RDK

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Yeah, I had no idea what I was doing and got ***** first round. Second round was closer, but I still didn't know what to do. So many Kirby tricks and weird stuff lol.
I love Kirby tricks. Chu's matches are so fun to watch.
 

Inui

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So Forte did 150%+ more damage to me every match but lost the set. The one match he won was when I died at the low, low damage of 120% to a tornado at the top. Woe is Snake, such a gimpable character.

Just play smart and camp and Snake has the advantage.
 

DanGR

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OMG, A Marth and Kirby player beat you? This must mean their characters are top tier and they beat MK!
 

slikvik

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**** MD/VA. I have no region. no really...
Only metaknight i see winning tournies consistently is m2k...cuz he's m2k. however i voted for the ban because since so many people dislike the character, its hurting the community. I'm actually for a temp ban to allow other characters to develop
 

Inui

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OMG, A Marth and Kirby player beat you? This must mean their characters are top tier and they beat MK!
I have never stated that any character besides Snake has a real advantage against MK. I just said a large amount of characters go nearly even with MK.
 

St. Viers

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@ slikvikI know, but to admit means you have to admit that you lost because you're a worse player; having a scapegoat makes JOHNING so much less embarrassing.

That's right, I went there =P
 

ShadowLink84

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Aww, Snake's not soo bad. :)
No that isn't what i mean. I just dislike characters who are so badly designed.
I dislike him simply because his Ftilt and utilt range is much greater than the graphics depict andbasically prove that the programmers weren't paying attention at all.

Most likely Snake's utilt was originally an axe kick while his Ftilt did have him wielding a knife or other object.

If i had a USBgecko I could look at the hitboxes and check them out.
 

slikvik

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@ slikvikI know, but to admit means you have to admit that you lost because you're a worse player; having a scapegoat makes JOHNING so much less embarrassing.

That's right, I went there =P
I don't have a problem with mk. he's not even my worst match-up. The only mks that beat me are really good(omni, plank, m2k, lukky for example), and i know are just better at the moment. I'm thinking about the community as a whole. New players that can't get around the gay tactics may actually have potential but give up prematurely
 

St. Viers

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naw, that wasn't calling you out--it was respondng to what you said. In other words, I meant what you just said in the last sentance
 

ShadowLink84

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Okay we need like a rule or something.

The following things are stupid to say

1.lol pro banners are just quitters.
2.lol pro banners suck.
3. anti banners just want to win money
4. Anti banners are elitist.


in short, don't make statements that address 90% of the idiots out there.
Just address whats been said.
 

RDK

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Slik, I assume you voted for Obama.

ATTEMPTS TO SINGLE-HANDEDLY DERAIL THE THREAD INTO A RELIGION OR POLITICS-RELATED DISCUSSION YET AGAIN
 

brinboy789

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XienZo

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Nah. It's not fair for me to be crippled by not being allowed to use my main. It's a waste of my time and I'm too staunchly anti-ban to ever support a tournament where MK is banned.
What is this? Is your PRIDE preventing you from doing ANYTHING to win? Including going to a tourney where your main is banned? And complaining how its not FAIR?

Its totally going against every bit of "playing to win"...
 

St. Viers

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Inui doesn't believe in any character matchup threads, because like many other really good players, they base their opinions off their own level of play, which is generally a better indicator than theorycrafting done by players of a lower level.

His opinion is skewed, but in a different way, and one arguably less wrong.
 

Inui

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What is this? Is your PRIDE preventing you from doing ANYTHING to win? Including going to a tourney where your main is banned? And complaining how its not FAIR?

Its totally going against every bit of "playing to win"...
What are you talking about?

Why would I attend a tournament where I'm crippled and have less of a chance of winning if I play to win? Why would I, someone extremely strongly in favour of not banning MK, ever support a tournament where he is banned?

I am not a fool.
 

Justblaze647

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What are you talking about?

Why would I attend a tournament where I'm crippled and have less of a chance of winning if I play to win? Why would I, someone extremely strongly in favour of not banning MK, ever support a tournament where he is banned?

I am not a fool.
There is a certain amount of undeniable logic in this post...
 

XienZo

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What are you talking about?

Why would I attend a tournament where I'm crippled and have less of a chance of winning if I play to win? Why would I, someone extremely strongly in favour of not banning MK, ever support a tournament where he is banned?

I am not a fool.
Well, now you know what your average scrub feels like when they ask why they should go to a tourney where CGing is allowed if they have less chance of winning. And why would they, someone strongly in favour of banning CGs, ever support a tournament where they are legal?

Because they can't let their own views prevent them from improving in other types of metagames they don't personally like. Well, if they want to have a play-to-win mindset anyway.

You're perfectly justified to not go to the tournament, but a person who completely believed in the "play to win" would go, regardless of their beliefs.
 

Zankoku

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that tournaments are not limited to a single one way out of state for each weekend. Inui not going to a tournament where Meta Knight is banned means he can probably attend one where Meta Knight isn't banned.
 
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