Aussierob123
Smash Champion
MP 2 is the best.
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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
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nice matches jeapie, really nice edgeguarding and i feel like i learned some stuff
remen is pretty amazing, he's definitely a thinking player and that imo is more dangerous than a spacie that spams complete tech skill.
He seems like more of a zoner too and never commits to doing heavy punishes, just wants to dash attack you over and over lol
because hes a thinker you have to mix it up more imo, you were mixing it up plenty but 1 aspect is you always gentlemen
sometimes you should jab twice --> shield grab, it seems like remen always waits for the 3rd hit and punishes
things like that.. these little mixups all add up
remen is pretty amazing, he's definitely a thinking player and that imo is more dangerous than a spacie that spams complete tech skill.
He seems like more of a zoner too and never commits to doing heavy punishes, just wants to dash attack you over and over lol
because hes a thinker you have to mix it up more imo, you were mixing it up plenty but 1 aspect is you always gentlemen
sometimes you should jab twice --> shield grab, it seems like remen always waits for the 3rd hit and punishes
things like that.. these little mixups all add up
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no its mario party 3 thats the good one. after 3 they all get progressively worse
/owns them all until 7
/owns them all until 7
pooopy
Smash Rookie
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yep falcon is indeed a piece of crap
to win you just gotta be better/ better strategy, no ways around it. Although I think people overexaggerate matchup problems. All of them are beatable by being better
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
lolol
I zone out during matches and do nothing. And then people think I'm being smart. That's ****.
You probably can. RaynEX and Unknown can DD grab my F-tilts with their Foxes. Falcon's dash dance is different but the dash length seems longer and the speed seems faster so I don't see how that would be disadvantageous here.
I wish I knew how to play Fox. I don't think lasers are particularly useful vs Falcon though.sorry for changing the subject ....
someone has to explan falcon-fox for me cause I have a feeling im just doing random stuff in that matchup.
Im currently uploading videos from a small tournament i just got back from at lawrencelots place RCT7= Tourney name .
I got 2nd, won against remens fox in wf, lost against gf twice against his fox.
Hes just spamming around doing airs and stuff ( no lasers! ) and im just getting ***** or something lol.
Hes a great player so congratz to him for winning, but i just want to get better in this matchup.
vids coming in 1 or 2 days. slowwwww internetzzz
Scar, what do you do against fox? Dont say grab -> **** please
I'm watching your 1st match with Remen's Falco right now. That first kill actually made me giggle. That was awesome.
FD is fine for Sheik. No platforms is good and bad, it's good because you're never tempted to go on them and put yourself above Falcon. Which is the easiest way to lose to him. His combos also have to be 100% legit, which is something many of them struggle with if you have decent DI out of his combos. Sheik's combo suite (U-tilt, Uair, Dair, weak U-smash, dash attack, etc.) is more or less immune to DI in my experience. Falcon is going offstage if he gets launched, there's no real away around it.
But I've never played a good Falcon so what do I know except Scar and Jeff but Jeff sucks vs Sheik
FoD and Yoshis are her best levels vs Falcon.
2 is pretty good. Unknown likes 2 better than 3 iirc. I like 3 more because you can carry more items. I will concede multiple items can be stupid at times, I like that it encourages planning. I'm awful at Mario Party though.
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
s2j's point about gentleman mixups is really, really good
I always forget to mix it up with jab jab grab, or jab jab SH knee
Instead, I just gentleman 99% of the time and I get CC ***** for it
I always forget to mix it up with jab jab grab, or jab jab SH knee
Instead, I just gentleman 99% of the time and I get CC ***** for it
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I like to do the jab jab dash away and react
but i also suck with falcon and i think most of my jank works because its so bad people dont see it coming
but i also suck with falcon and i think most of my jank works because its so bad people dont see it coming
Aussierob123
Smash Champion
I like single jab - knee shield and repeat, for shield pressure, especially because it brings out some players weaknesses. Some people spot dodge to avoid getting grabbed after the jab, or their techskill just gets mixed up when you apply pressure, but the best is when people roll to get away from the shield pressure, then you can punish the roll. Or if they just keep shielding make note of it and grab.
Of course it's only a mixup, do it more then a few times and the opponent will just find a new way to get out of their shield and **** you up.
Of course it's only a mixup, do it more then a few times and the opponent will just find a new way to get out of their shield and **** you up.
$mike
Smash Ace
the only time i gentleman on shield is when i don't space a move correctly. otherwise i either do single or double jab to spaced knee/nair/uair (and repeat) pressure. do this and wait for them to shield grab or roll/jump out of shield, then ****.
falcon's shield pressure game is pretty ******** in the way you can mix it up so many ways, but i love that
falcon's shield pressure game is pretty ******** in the way you can mix it up so many ways, but i love that
Palpi
Smash Hero
I think falcon has a similar shield pressure game as sheik. They both have lots of options after a fair on shield.
Jeapie
Smash Journeyman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq4bcH30UeI
RCT 7 grand finals ,
Remen ( Fox, Falco ) vs me
Comments/ tips is much apreciated!
the channel of Northernsmash has been upgraded.
Its sexy now <3
RCT 7 grand finals ,
Remen ( Fox, Falco ) vs me
Comments/ tips is much apreciated!
thanks KirbyKaze!
the channel of Northernsmash has been upgraded.
Its sexy now <3
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Best option with Sheik is usually to wait if you're spaced.
Jeapie
Smash Journeyman
telemaster
Chime and Twang
nice boozer :D
Scar
#HarveyDent
jeapie - i think johnny's right
i used to attack fox a lot, run towards him and nair, try to get him on the ground and just edgeguard well, but i've learned that my playstyle has been just extremely combo-based and momentum-based
johnny's strat offers you a chance on-stage at a neutral position, where mine is just like, let fox **** you until he overextends and then kill him, hope you haven't lost 4 stocks when the game is over
now i'm trying to dd grab a little more, zone a little better
this has led to me not putting enough pressure on fox though, and without pressure he does better on average vs my falcon anyways. currently i'm deciding that i need to put pressure on fox but be a lot safer about it... don't get hit, punish hard.
that basically means "be really good." but i think that's the answer.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Not taking away from Remen, but i think he is boring to watch. 
Mokumo
Smash Ace
scar i know you live in norcal.
so play isai more and tell us about it.
so play isai more and tell us about it.
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
just from watching the first few stocks vs remen, im fairly confident that you would rapeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee remen if you would stop approaching all the time. im fairly certain s2j or gg7 (who dont approach like idiots like the rest of us) would poooooop on remen.
idk though, maybe he would adjust and just keep ******. but the major flaw is your just nairing at him and hoping for the best it looks like.
idk though, maybe he would adjust and just keep ******. but the major flaw is your just nairing at him and hoping for the best it looks like.
mYsteriOus n1gga
Smash Rookie
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hi
an easy way to do the 2 jab trick to grab is to
jab jab then hold shield (L or R) then press A, it might not be frame perfect by a few frames but it is good enough imo
-******
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sup s2j
joeplicate
Smash Master
LMFAO!!!!
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TheManaLord
Smash Hero
how to not get techchased v marth pleaze
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inb4dontgetgrabbed
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Miss techs intentionally and SDI Marth jab resets.
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marth can jab reset!? i thought he just dtilt/fsmashed you....
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
i try dat but what if he just fsmashes me instead i get ***ed up or utilt or uair or something
marth got all options it seems??? especially on fd
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
If he F-smashes you in the middle you should get out from there if you tech stand the F-smash.
Whatever you do, if you're going to intentionally miss techs, don't DI away because that risks you eating a tipper with no effort on his part.
Whatever you do, if you're going to intentionally miss techs, don't DI away because that risks you eating a tipper with no effort on his part.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
F-smash and u-tilt lead to nothing from the middle of the stage.
I noticed that Hax likes to DI in a lot, so KK is probably right, since that free tipper thing sounds pretty cheap.
I noticed that Hax likes to DI in a lot, so KK is probably right, since that free tipper thing sounds pretty cheap.
mYsteriOus n1gga
Smash Rookie
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also
viewing your set
I notice that you love to cover platform techs with up-air
while it is good on people that don't crouch cancel like the guy you faced in semi finals since it leads to free finisher, it's not so good against people that crouch
i recommend doing a bigger punish like knee/stomp and only up-air if you have no chance of hitting him with knee/stomp/ he's high enough that up-air will kill him/ easy edgeguard
-*****
p.s. mediocre it is kinda rude to censor ***** into the hurtful six letter variation
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
you can stomp under platforms and hit ppl on bf yoshis poke and get knee or upairs at awesome percents
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
LMFAO @ s2j
CaptainRanD0
Smash Apprentice
LOL funny how he gets banned on his alts within days yet I still have like 10 alts
and none of them are banned =D
and none of them are banned =D
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I got 1 unbanned alt. I was on "EricTwistGotBannedLOL" for like a month.
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Dart! is my alt.
Kels88 too.......
Kels88 too.......
yo scar i agree
i think a big part of falcon vs fox is maintaining a threatening appearance to fox
if fox isnt afraid that youre going to attack at any time, then hes gonna just go up to you slowly until he can space really well, but if he thinks you may attack spontaneously, especially if you have previously and gotten good results with it, then he'll be trying to protect himself from an attack that youre not actually going to do, which is what you can take advantage of
be defensive, but look aggressive
sup g reg
i think a big part of falcon vs fox is maintaining a threatening appearance to fox
if fox isnt afraid that youre going to attack at any time, then hes gonna just go up to you slowly until he can space really well, but if he thinks you may attack spontaneously, especially if you have previously and gotten good results with it, then he'll be trying to protect himself from an attack that youre not actually going to do, which is what you can take advantage of
be defensive, but look aggressive
sup g reg
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
GG7 vs forward losers finals coming soon :D
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Jeapie's Falcon kicks are hilarious.
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forward is my favorite player ever