Robocop Poll: Bracket Formation

[CAOTIC]

As the poll question asks.

 

[Redact]

is he still going to play melee at all after losing his controller?

 

[CAOTIC]

Yes, that was part of the deal in his flight sponsorship.

 

[C~Dog]

Can i vote no for Brawl and yes for Melee?

Really, i think we treat him like any other player that comes to the tourney.

EDIT: Does the Np stand for No Problem?

 

[CAOTIC]

It's a typo I can't fix! Some mod...

 

[Leisha]

I thought this question was finalized already? >_>

Well anyway, I think He should progress in the brackets normally like everyone else, it doesn't seem very fair for anyone if he gets given instant priority into the top of the bracket.

If its just for for melee then sure, Doesn't bother me really, (mostly a biased opinion) but not for brawl as-well. So I selected no anyway, seeing it says both events.


Waaaaay too much special treatment imo.

 

[C~Dog]

It appears I have voted for the wrong option after misinterpreting the poll. Fuuu

 

[Leisha]

Ask to have the vote switched over conor =P.

Anyway I hope nothing i said is taken personally, I jsut dont think ANYONE should be given this. Makes it unfair on everyone else.

 

[CAOTIC]

Don't worry, I can count votes that were meant to be for the other side! Thanks Leish for your input. It was finalised for Brawl, Melee not so much.

 

[Pete278]

I would like to point out your first post biases the poll if anyone reads it before they vote, and that you should change it.

 

[swordsaint]

if he's inserted late, technically speak he could (as it's been pointed out time and time again) play 0 tournament matches and get third. Win a large some of money, and go home laughing.

 

[EverAlert]

A couple of things I want clarified before I actually vote:

1. Is M2K obligated to actually play his tournament matches regardless of the outcome of the poll?
2. If he were to be inserted late into the bracket, where exactly would he be inserted?

Also, as an afterthrought, will he still play in pools regardless? (Don't care about this one too much, just curious.)

 

[Mister Eric]

Just to let you guys know, I've mentioned this idea of putting M2K in finals to my smash friends in the Midwest America and they all just lol'd. Seriously, make him earn it. How often do you guys have a national? Why not treat it like one? Make this s**t legit.

Don't embarrass yourselves like this >.> Give yourselves some credit.

I hope this turns out for the best<3

Waaaaay too much special treatment imo.

so much it's silly =/

 

[CAOTIC]

1. Yes he is.
2. After Winners Finals.

Also, he will still play in Pools regardless.

Mister Eric: For various reasons you aren't aware of as an American, this is an issue for Australia although it is a non-issue for America. I would not put this up for discussion, or listen to people's suggestions, if it was stupid/irrelevant.

I should also mention that voters that aren't going to Robocop are going to have their votes nulled.

 

[Nova]

I voted yes because he's gonna win anyway, and I'd rather see more Aussie matches.

 

[J-Birds]

Shouldnt we only include votes from australian smashes?

 

[C~Dog]

Cao just said only RC attendees will count.

 

[luke_atyeo]

I think m2k being an auto lose for anyone that gets him is more unfair then him being advanced to finals straight off.

vote 1 for not being bracket *****.

 

[Sirias]

He will beat everyone in his bracket and, like Ryan said, make one or two top Aussies go out without a chance, really.
But I still think he shouldn't be given leeway.
Either way he'll MOST LIKELY come AT LEAST 3rd anyway.

It's just gay all-round.
M2K ruins the whole event. </3

If he is given or is not given insta-3rd, it should be for both games.
Not just for Melee or just Brawl, THAT is gay.

Edit:

There's no saying he MIGHT lose in Brackets, but it's just so highly doubtful.
Still, I say he plays normally, like anyone else.

 

[Melancholy]

I don't see the point at all. We payed all this money to bring him over to compete in our tounament, only for him to compete in just 2 sets? That's stupid.

With proper seeding the best Australians will still rise to the top, and there's very little chance of someone being knocked out by M2K (i.e he won't ever be in the losers bracket) so I don't see a problem.

Admittedly I'm not going to be one of the people placing "in the money" (or even the bracket, most likely) so it doesn't affect me directly, but there are pot restrictions anyway, so the top placing Australian wont have their winnings diminished.

tl;dr: Voted No.

 

[Sirias]

No, but the point is M2K will knock a top Aussie into losers (maybe even early on) and then ANOTHER top Aussie and maybe another.
So basically 1 top Aussie COULD get eliminated early on and not get anywhere near finals.
Which is gay?
Duh?
Stfu?
=]

Edit:

Oh yeah I voted Np. c:

 

[Zero]

I think pools will be seeded so that all top Australians will get optimal seedings, whereas pools with American players will have weaker players receiving 2nd seeds, as to avoid a situation like this where top Australian players are competing against M2K/top Americans early.

 

[Mister Eric]

Mister Eric: For various reasons you aren't aware of as an American, this is an issue for Australia although it is a non-issue for America. I would not put this up for discussion, or listen to people's suggestions, if it was stupid/irrelevant.

I should also mention that voters that aren't going to Robocop are going to have their votes nulled.

Sorry if my opinion is invalid. He is American afterall and I've been to several tournies with M2Ks presence. I figured this should be considered more of a smasher's concern.

I am not voting, it isn't my place. But I thought outside input would be nice. Might help some people who are convinced that this is a good idea step back and remember that the smash community follows a standard ruleset. And nowhere in the history of smash do I remember someone ever getting this kind of treatment. I don't think you guys are a joke. But I think this step is setting you guys up to look that way.

But yeah, if it isn't my place that's fine. Just caring<3

gl with everything.

 

[C~Dog]

I think pools will be seeded so that all top Australians will get optimal seedings, whereas pools with American players will have weaker players receiving 2nd seeds, as to avoid a situation like this where top Australian players are competing against M2K/top Americans early.

This.

10seededbrackets

 

[Zxv]

Edit: Decided to read the other posts.

 

[TakFR]

if he's inserted late, technically speak he could (as it's been pointed out time and time again) play 0 tournament matches and get third. Win a large some of money, and go home laughing.

As opposed to stomping us, getting first and going home laughing?

 

[Zxv]

As opposed to stomping us, getting first and going home laughing?

Least he earns what he gets that way.

I personally don't mind being knocked out by M2K/other Australians. I'm more in it for the experience to verse many other high level players than the glory of placing high.

 

[tibs7]

Sif you don't want bragging rights bryte! Everyone does :D My aim is to get a better placing than corpse so Perth can stfu.

I don't mind m2k/oates/havok being at start of bracket, ill beat them anyway....

Inb4everyonesaystibshasnochance

 

[C~Dog]

TIBS HAS NO- awww

 

[seaDORF]

I personally believe he should not be given special treatment and have to play his way through pools and bracket. That way, more people will get the chance to play him. If he automatically gets inserted higher up in the bracket, only the people who are prepared to money match him will have a chance to play him, excluding the selected few who place really high (i'm under the impression he won't play friendlies, only mm, correct me if i'm wrong).

I think it'll be pretty **** if he only plays a few tournament matches and only accepts money matches in his free time. I'm just considering the people who aren't expected to make it THAT far (majority of players) and who don't exactly have spare money to mm him but would like the experience of playing him.

I can also see the other side of the argument though. The smashers who are favourites to place well and win money could be duped by being knocked into losers early and hence having to face another skilled player much earlier in the bracket and risk being knocked out early.

I'm going with 'no' though as bracket **** is a part of smash tournaments.

 

[C~Dog]

Hall will be just as much of an Insta-lose as M2K will be, and since they will be on opposite sides of the brackets it evens out somewhat.

 

[Marteh]

Make him work his way, I mean yes he could say knock Shaya and Tibs or whatever in losers early and make them vs each other, but that's a situation we have to live with in our setup, that situation could happen without m2k anyway.

And Im not in favour of giving him an insta win of X amount of money, I mean we all know it won't happen, but there is a theoretical odds of M2K losing matches and getting eliminated from the tourney all together, thus he needs to go through the same process as everyone to make sure he's not just given money for showing up to Australia (which you guys paid for anyway).

 

[Corpsecreate]

I voted "No problem"

 

[Vyse]

It's a typo I can't fix! Some mod...

I'd suggest re-doing the thread since so many people have voted already.

I personally believe he should not be given special treatment and have to play his way through pools and bracket. That way, more people will get the chance to play him. If he automatically gets inserted higher up in the bracket, only the people who are prepared to money match him will have a chance to play him, excluding the selected few who place really high (i'm under the impression he won't play friendlies, only mm, correct me if i'm wrong).

I think it'll be pretty **** if he only plays a few tournament matches and only accepts money matches in his free time. I'm just considering the people who aren't expected to make it THAT far (majority of players) and who don't exactly have spare money to mm him but would like the experience of playing him.

I agree 100%

Think about it. You are getting the chance to play against M2k in a tournament match.
That doesn't come by very often.

I can also see the other side of the argument though. The smashers who are favourites to place well and win money could be duped by being knocked into losers early and hence having to face another skilled player much earlier in the bracket and risk being knocked out early.

I'm going with 'no' though as bracket **** is a part of smash tournaments.

And so there's next time. Thriller 3?

 

[Hotdog]

I voted no. Don't forget about the other Americans, they're going to bracket **** just as hard as M2K imo. Besides it'd be more entertaining to watch more matches of him and to see how more people go against him in the brackets.

Would be lols if he didn't make it outta pools.

 

[C~Dog]

M2K sandbags and gets last seed in his pool, then proceeds to royal **** up the bracket.

 

[M]

I'd love to play M2K in bracket, it wouldn't be about the winning or losing. Just the chance to play him in tournament alone is worth it.

 

[Zero]

I'm sure CAO is vigilant enough not to let that happen, Conor.

 

[M]

M2K sandbags and gets last seed in his pool, then proceeds to royal **** up the bracket.

He's not sandbagging. He just lacks a good controller.

 

[Dekar289]

i'm sure it really doesn't matter, since that's not against the rules.
also the final brawl bracket will be jam packed with top players anyway, might as well just seed it entirely based on location.