Project M Social Thread

[Eternal Yoshi]

This skin is OK.

Anyway, thanks for that stream link.
I was asleep when it happened live.

Question: Why did you pause when Marth and D3 locked lips???

 

[ETWIST51294]

Soooooo, I played a newer build of this (most certainly not the newest -_-) and I noticed Lucario looks small as ****. Is he really smaller or was my eyes playing tricks on me?

 

[JCaesar]

Everyone (excluding Bowser) is smaller. Is Lucario smaller relative to the other characters? I don't believe so.

 

[Archangel]

Bowser is a Big Mothertrucker!

but he's suppose to be that way historically. I can't wait to use him and the Fsmash!!!!! If you get hit with that Fsmash your....well the answer is here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO1sOrwGAMM

 

[Slashy]

I realize Brawl tethers may have some problems, but how are they inferior to Melee tethers?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Melee tethers work against edge-hoggers, Brawl ones don't.

 

[Archangel]

Simple and Correct...I like your style Grim.

As for the long run If their is a way to bring back melee tether That would be nice but It would also be nice to have both. Not sure if that is possible but auto sweet spot tether does have its usefulness at times.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Ivysaur really badly wants Melee tethers.

Like really, really badly.

Ivysaur would be somewhat viable in Brawl, imo, if Brawl had kept Melee tethers.

 

[Slashy]

Don't they also provide a simple way to recover? As long as you hit the ledge it helps your recovery, not only that but it seems harder to gimp the tether recovery in Melee, so it is pretty much like adding an extra jump to those characters.

In Brawl it does get you onstage but it's fail window seems greater

 

[MonkUnit]

This skin is OK.

Anyway, thanks for that stream link.
I was asleep when it happened live.

Question: Why did you pause when Marth and D3 locked lips???

At that time, standardtoaster and I had to leave for a few minutes to do something.

 

[Slashy]

I would love to have both but I feel like that would build too many recovery options. For Link, he'd probably need to have his crappy spin attack recovery back. Sammy would need to have her Smash 64 recovery.

 

[Sneak8288]

I would love to have both but I feel like that would build too many recovery options. For Link, he'd probably need to have his crappy spin attack recovery back. Sammy would need to have her Smash 64 recovery.

that isn't needed, all you have to do is grb the ledge and you shut off over half the recovery options even if there are more options to recover added. No need to nerf the options, people can just adapt and lrn2edgeguard

 

[shanus]

Melee tethers are infinitely superior to brawl tethers in just about every way. If we can make them, we will add them. No debate on that, lol.

 

[Slashy]

That doesn't really answer my question

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Link, Samus, Ivy, and TL = Melee tether
Everyone else = Brawl tether

Nintendo was never consistent with Bowser's size.

Zamus' Forward B recovery with Melee style tether sounds ridiculous.

 

[shanus]

That doesn't really answer my question

That's because it doesn't need answering. Any video of a samus or link player should answer it more than enough. Go watch clips of Lord HDL from P5.

 

[Slashy]

You forgot Lucas (though rope snake looks ridiculous with Melee Tethers)

I think they have equal risk and reward in concept (Maybe upping the range might be a bit better at overcoming Brawl's spotty ledge detection).

Both are easily gimped, it is just that Brawl's requires you to read your opponents actions before performing the move, and Melee's requires afterwards. Also Brawl's tethers arguably have a greater fail window (Correct me, but I thought that Zairs would still grab the stage even if a player was in the way.), and with a changed ledge occupancy it would up the risk even more.

 

[Revven]

We can't up the range of tethers due to their inherent animation length. And we can't edit their animation length currently. So, that is not happening anytime soon.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Perhaps, if possible, with Zamus, give her both a Brawl and Melee tether? Say, her Up-B targets the ledge, while her Side-B tethers walls.

 

[Slashy]

Ivysaur should just get a zair, regardless of how tethers are handled, she needs a good horizontal recovery as that's how she is easily edgehogged.

 

[Revven]

We can't give people a Zair who originally did not have one in their subactions, especially since we don't even know how tethers even work in the first place.

 

[Zef]

I've been mega inactive, was landing detection really fixed

 

[MonkUnit]

Ye s.

 

[Deleted member]

Perhaps, if possible, with Zamus, give her both a Brawl and Melee tether? Say, her Up-B targets the ledge, while her Side-B tethers walls.

To build on this, you could make her up-b auto snap to the ledge like vBrawl at the cost of start up lag like Fox/Falco up-bs.

And her side-b could be the Melee like tether where it just grabs the stage wall instantly.

 

[MonkUnit]

We have yet to figure out how tethers work. I am sure that if we made melee tethers we would have to "replace" the method that brawl uses. Which is why I don't think it'd be possible to give ZSS or anyone else BOTH tethers.

 

[FireBall Stars]

This song should make it into pm one way or another. Even though I still play melee, this brought back so much nostalgia and priceless memories. *wipes tear*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ0hB74H-lc

I use that on Battlefield, just search for it, there's a brstm around somewhere.

 

[BinAly]

We have yet to figure out how tethers work. I am sure that if we made melee tethers we would have to "replace" the method that brawl uses. Which is why I don't think it'd be possible to give ZSS or anyone else BOTH tethers.

If, in the end, some replacing needs to be done, please go for the Melee method. Brawl one is vastly inferior.

 

[Zef]

**** yea
maybe ill play again

 

[MonkUnit]

Zef, don't forget about the other things that were in the blogposts. Melee DI, Double Stick DI, Melee Stale Moves(except for multihit moves IIRC), Melee Landing Detection, and I think that's about it besides bug fixes. Demo Patch will be amazing, you guys. Tipmannn

 

[BinAly]

Demo Patch will be amazing, you guys. Tipmannn

For **** sake... Why do you have do to this?

 

[Pen_island]

Was watching some of standardtoasters stream with the new DI and LD and everything is really starting to look smooth! It looks almost as smooth as melee which I never thought would be possible. Can you guys confirm that the new landing detection is EXACTLY like melee?

 

[MonkUnit]

Yes, we can confirm it is exactly melee LD. Magus made the codes. That's your proof.

 

[Dingding123]

Landing detection was fixed, right?

So, uhh...can the patch come out now?


...like, before this weekend?
/impatient

jp, jp. Yall take your time. Great stuff so far, I didn't thing LD would be fixed this quickly. P:M could very well truly feel like melee after this patch.
/hype

 

[MonkUnit]

We still have more blogposts, Dingding123.

 

[Spoon~]

We still have more blogposts, Dingding123.

Don't play with heart.

What can possibly top LD fix?

 

[Sneak8288]

Don't play with heart.

What can possibly top LD fix?

Me being a character for dlc of course.
Sneak:M confirmed dlc

 

[Spoon~]

Me being a character for dlc of course.
Sneak:M confirmed dlc

Lol dlc for smash would be awful.

pass.

 

[MonkUnit]

IDK What could top LD but there's still stuff left to do.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

The clone engine is the only big thing besides LD that I can think of

E:

THE SOUND EFFECTS THATS IT!

 

[Spoon~]

Oh also ledge occupancy and stuffs