Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
*sigh*
Okay, people need to learn how to theorycraft better. They leave out very important points.
Think of the position that spacies are normally put in when they are hit off the ledge at low percents. They're normally close to the ledge and under ledge height when their hitstun wears off. So their options are.
1. Use their second jump to try to grab the ledge
2. Jump backwards and side B.
3. Up B
Of course they can do some shine stalling or wall jump shenanigans on some stages, but those three options are just what they will be doing most of the time.
Up B is actually a decent option if you can position yourself because it's hard for some characters to go off stage, hit you, and recover. It's especially convenient if the only way they can hit you would be sending you towards a wall for an easy tech. Battlefield takes away this option because you can just hit them under the stage without any fear of them teching. From there it's easy to just recover to the edge and edgehog them to prevent any form of recovery from that position
Of course, that's only if you chose to go offstage in the first place. Battlefield takes away the ability to ride up a side wall to sweetspot the ledge, forcing spacies to recover at a very obvious angle from many positions. You can even tell if they're going to sweetspot or not by just by looking at the distance that they started their up B at (it's that obvious).
Sneak's vid rarely applies in matches because if their already in such a terrible position then they're just going to be edgeguarded and die anyway.
edit: oops, I didn't intent to make a wall of text lol
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