Project M Social Thread

[KayB]

My two favorite custom P:M stages so far:
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The bowser stage is out? Download link pl0x.

Also, will any videos of the PM tourney be uploaded?

 

[standardtoaster]

all videos of the invitational will be uploaded to jcaesar's channel

 

[Kink-Link5]

Yea....well there was a good amount of high level player in the invitational....however, there are about 20 = players or potentially better players that I could name off hand who were not invited/didn't enter....so...idk it is what it is.

Good luck getting a top level Game and Watch to exist in the first place.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

quick a tournament happened everyone talk about tiers

 

[Kink-Link5]

quick a tournament happened everyone talk about tiers

Wario is currently top tier and the best character in the game

#boneslogic

 

[Jolteon]

I just saw Javi beat Leffen on the Melee stream, so I can say with confidence that Fox beats Fox.

 

[DMG]

Darn! Yet another MU that failed to go even with Fox.

 

[bubbaking]

The bowser stage is out? Download link pl0x.

Bowser's Castle

 

[Hashtag]

Well, not 100% correct. The invitational had the size of a local, but Melee and P:M high and top level international players were the only contestants. As such, one could say that it was a small tourney with the skill cap and competition of a regional or even a national.

Edit: And it'll be hard to get "half the cast" represented at ONE tourney by high level players.

There are also probably some good unknown players that could have competed as well. You never know, anyone could be on the rise in PM due to new matchups and other things. Only time will tell.

Edit: Since it was an invitational, it implies you have to be somewhat well known and good to be invited.

 

[batistabus]

That stage looks amazing. I would love if it were to be in PM.

Also, all this Shroomed hype makes me hope Dr. Mario makes it in as his own character in PM. I know Mario has most of his good qualities, but still.

 

[Archangel]

quick a tournament happened everyone talk about tiers

Wario>All

There are also probably some good unknown players that could have competed as well. You never know, anyone could be on the rise in PM due to new matchups and other things. Only time will tell.

Edit: Since it was an invitational, it implies you have to be somewhat well known and good to be invited.

Plup beats Hbox...doesn't get invited....being good doesn't really matter in an invitational if you aren't KNOWN to be good. lol

 

[bubbaking]

All that is true, but the fact that it was indeed an invitational also acted as insurance that only good players will be in the bracket, even though the tourney was quite small. To achieve similar success with a non-invitation only tourney, it would have to be a much larger tourney. Of course, I'm more for an open-to-everyone tourney; I'm simply defending the validity of the results gained from this one. Besides, it was the PMBR who said that they would be collecting "feedback" from this invitational, so the results have to stand for something.

Edit: Plup is pretty well-known to be good in Melee (Hbox personally made sure of that), but he isn't so well-known in P:M.

 

[Hashtag]

Wario>All



Plup beats Hbox...doesn't get invited....being good doesn't really matter in an invitational if you aren't KNOWN to be good. lol

True, but I was just stating something. Well known skilled players are more likely to attract viewers than good unknown players. Simply because your average players will feel like they didn't get an accurate understanding of how c lose PM. They feel as though the top players should dominate as handily as they do in melee regardless of new matchups and players.

While this is mostly true, it does undermine new player on the rise because if the player succeeds they call bs and state the game isn't like melee. If it was (insert pro player here) wouldn't have lost to (insert unknown/lesser known player name here).

It really is unfortunate.

Edit: regardless, there was some very good competition at the invitational. There is no taking away from that.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

You'll get videos soon. Just hold up on your judgments until then.

 

[Translucent]

Great job Reflex! Taking Wario to a whole new level.

 

[JOE!]

While this is mostly true, it does undermine new player on the rise because if the player succeeds they call bs and state the game isn't like melee. If it was (insert pro player here) wouldn't have lost to (insert unknown/lesser known player name here).

It really is unfortunate.

Isn't this going to be a problem for a long time however? Due to characters being on a more even playing field, even good players from melee would have trouble against a good newcomer using a previously bad or new character, and if the newcomer wins vs the melee vet who isn't as dominating... well the johns come out.

 

[Little Nemo]

Oh. So I guess I was wrong about Mario. I feel like an idiot now. ._. I just usually play characters with quiet and/or no jump noises I guess.

 

[`dazrin]

Congratulations to Reflex for taking the invitational! Really looking forward to the videos. I'm particularly interested in Wizzrobe's Sonic play But yeah, mad props to Reflex for being such an intelligent player :D

Next stop.. G3NESIS. Who's going?? ;D

 

[Tmacc]

Congratulations to Reflex for taking the invitational! Really looking forward to the videos. I'm particularly interested in Wizzrobe's Sonic play But yeah, mad props to Reflex for being such an intelligent player :D

Next stop.. G3NESIS. Who's going?? ;D

Is PM going to be at Genesis?

 

[Comeback Kid]

Isn't this going to be a problem for a long time however? Due to characters being on a more even playing field, even good players from melee would have trouble against a good newcomer using a previously bad or new character, and if the newcomer wins vs the melee vet who isn't as dominating... well the johns come out.

That's the negative side of things.

The positive side is that those players are giving you feedback of what they feel is too powerful such as certain recoveries and what they think feels like Melee and what doesn't.

It's a john if they blame the game for losing when they probably just lack match up experience.

 

[`dazrin]

Is PM going to be at Genesis?

No idea. There is very little to no information about gen3 atm, but I honestly don't see a reason why it wouldn't be there. Many PMBR members are already getting hyped and making plans to attend.

 

[Kink-Link5]

That's the negative side of things.

The positive side is that those players are giving you feedback of what they feel is too powerful such as certain recoveries and what they think feels like Melee and what doesn't.

It's a john if they blame the game for losing when they probably just lack match up experience.

Lack of matchup experience is a john too. "I just lost because I didn't have time to learn the character." The only excuse for losing is that you got outplayed by your opponent because they made better decisions in the set than you.

 

[bubbaking]

You didn't necessarily get outplayed if you didn't know your opponent's char's options due to said lack in MU experience. That's a fine line.....

 

[leafbarrett]

You didn't necessarily get outplayed if you didn't know your opponent's char's options due to said lack in MU experience. That's a fine line.....

Well, since the new characters haven't been out for nearly as long as Melee, the matchup experience is far more limited. This goes both ways, to an extent.

 

[Divinokage]

You'll get videos soon. Just hold up on your judgments until then.

Great stuff in P:M! You are def really good! =D

Kink, you can lack matchup xp if the players in your region do not play certain characters so somewhere you'll lack matchup xp unless youve played the game for a very long time.

 

[Hashtag]

Ok, you guys are talking about the players complaining. I'm referring to the fan base.

I am assuming higher level players will try not to John much unless something is overly ridiculous.

 

[leelue]

#kagethewarrior

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Go to bed leelue

 

[Jolteon]

 

[cannedbread]

best post itt

 

[MarioNPinkie]

lol that picture telling leelue to go to bed reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBMI6ojyvfU

 

[Juushichi]

Good luck getting a top level Game and Watch to exist in the first place.

Hey man, cmart and I play a pretty mean GnW.

Also, Reflex was pretty much ****ting on everyone who played the game with him there, Archangel. You just weren't there to see it, lol.

 

[Oracle]

Yea....well there was a good amount of high level player in the invitational....however, there are about 20 = players or potentially better players that I could name off hand who were not invited/didn't enter....so...idk it is what it is.

Reflex would most likely smash whoever you listed lol. We're talking about a guy who doesn't always switch from wario in the D3 matchup in brawl and doesn't even camp

 

[Hashtag]

Reflex would most likely smash whoever you listed lol. We're talking about a guy who doesn't always switch from wario in the D3 matchup in brawl and doesn't even camp

Biased much? Lol

Though he is really good, on a serious note.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I don't think I ever see Reflex switch between Wario/PT due to matchups. He doesn't play both characters cuz he needs to cover his bad MUs. He plays both characters, cuz he enjoys both characters.

 

[standardtoaster]

I only recorded a match of j666 vs some news and a match of wizzrobe vs cmart. I spent too much time playing and watching instead of recording, lol.

 

[`dazrin]

Bad ST bad ;b

I hope you got better tho! :D gen3

 

[Jolteon]

#genesis3 .

 

[GunBlaze]

I don't think I ever see Reflex switch between Wario/PT due to matchups. He doesn't play both characters cuz he needs to cover his bad MUs. He plays both characters, cuz he enjoys both characters.

Glad to know I'm not the only PT player here.

 

[Kink-Link5]

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