Project M Social Thread

[Translucent]

Project M is happening, and there is a link to the bracket back a page or two.

 

[metroid1117]

Wow, Reflex and JCaesar did / are doing so much work. Congratulations to both of them, I can't wait to hear the results of Winner's Finals.

@JCaesar: Good **** taking out Leffen in WR1, he must've been sooooooooooooooo salty.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

reflex going in

 

[JCaesar]

Ahhh so close to beating Wizzy! I lost by missing an easy meteor cancel

Great game though. Wizzrobe is sooo good. Mad respect.

 

[SpiderMad]

I was okay with you liking the browser IE, but you're also a Mac person?! IE isn't even for Mac, what kind of grody paradox are you running here?

 

[bubbaking]

Well, you can run a Windows OS on a Mac.....

 

[foshio]

Damn JCaesar... How you improve so much?! Impressive

 

[Juushichi]

Reflex is insane. So is hungrybox, but it's O. Jiggs vs N. Jiggs. I think Reflex will take it.

Playing the PMBR so far has been really fun. Still have to play with Ookami, SB and the toaster bros. This game is hella fun. JC wrecked me in our MM, but the ROB ditto was kinda close. He's really, really good.

 

[iLink]

Really looking forward to watching Reflex's matches.

 

[bubbaking]

Reflex is insane. So is hungrybox, but it's O. Jiggs vs N. Jiggs. I think Reflex will take it.

Lolz, what does this mean?

 

[Dubforce]

Lolz, what does this mean?

So I'm not the only one that didn't get it.

 

[foshio]

Old jiggs vs new jiggs. He's saying wario is a new version of jiggs. What with the air mobility and all

 

[Kink-Link5]

Wario got nothing on the pain train that is Jigglypuff.

Giant rest after ~2 minutes is scary though.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Reflex is insane. So is hungrybox, but it's O. Jiggs vs N. Jiggs. I think Reflex will take it.

That's how it works in Super Turbo, at least.

Hungrybox says that the matchup is pretty skewed in Jigglypuff's favor, though, so, we'll see.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqxaAH42eEo

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30598

Anyone post this here yet?

Because WANT! D<

With a little P:M magic added, of course. ¦3

 

[bubbaking]

My two favorite custom P:M stages so far:
[collapse=Bowser's Castle]

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[collapse=Chibi-Robo 2013]

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That clock is such a nice feature because of the fact that the hand makes one rotation every 12 minutes.

 

[Translucent]

Reflex beat hbox 3-1!!!!

 

[Dubforce]

So reflex 3-1'ed hbox...ho boy.

 

[bubbaking]

And people still think Jiggs is Top Tier?

 

[JCaesar]

The bracket is moving now, hope you're all following along! http://challonge.com/pmapex2013

 

[Kink-Link5]

Hungrybox is going to have to pull out that O.Sagat Tiger Bair.

Come on Juan!

Come on Juan!

Come on Juan!

 

[Dubforce]

I personally think wario is busted. But then again I play squirtle so of course I would think that.

In the wario v. squirtle mu squirtle is supposed to nair/withdraw his way in.

1: Warios nair beats his. I know, dumb. Even with the protection.
2: Wario can do a lot to you to get you out of withdraw. He can safely:
bite, upsmash, downsmash, grab, side-b, jab, downtilt, ftilt.

Its virtually impossible to get in on wario as squirtle.

Zelda is similar. Dins fire knocks you out of withdraw, so thats lame as ****.

And snake. Oh my god snake. He can put a mine on the edge and even if you perfectly sweetspot you are getting hit. You're only hope is that he puts that mine a little to far away and that you just take like 3 damage and grab the edge anyways. Realistically though, depending on your damage, you are either getting faired or killed off the top by the mine.

So back on topic. Hbox lost to reflex...I blame the fact that reflex is amazing and wario is broke as **** (remember I play squirtle so of course I feel that way, regardless of its truth (although I'm pretty sure he actually is quite busted amongst the cast (please nerf))). Looks like reflex is going to be against either wizzy or hbox for the top spot. Good luck!

 

[DMG]

Wario broken? Heyo!

 

[Translucent]

Wario definitely isn't "broke." Us squirtle players have to figure out how to beat him. I also feel that the skill of Reflex is what has led him to as far as he is, not his character being too good lol.

 

[bubbaking]

And a lot of chars can deal with Puff now more easily, with Bowser being the perfect example.

A LOT of things break Squirtle's nair. Armor is always useful, no matter how small, but 4% still isn't much. It's still a great move, though.....

 

[DMG]

+ Possibly people being weak on Wario/new Wario MU experience. Some of the tweaks to the angles in trajectory alone would render someone vulnerable if they didn't know which ways to DI optimally all the time vs Wario. The one thing that is really good though with Wario is footstooling, say after Dair, because that can give you another free hit or TC. Wario's got a somewhat scary TC game, in that while he doesn't cover ground like Sheik or Falcon, his punishes hit really hard. If you predict someone will tech roll away, and you catch them with the late part of Side B, it hurts like a mother ****er. The buffs to his throw angles, to Bite mobility/angle?, and to some of his general kit let him properly set up tech chases where as before if someone actually knew Wario's throws you would usually just DI away every time and be safe, or tech away and be safe.

 

[a vehicle]

wario is broken

I main pichu in melee and i think everyone else is broken too

 

[bubbaking]

Wario's SideB is just like Ganon's downB when it comes to TCs. From a certain position, it covers practically every tech option except maybe teching towards and behind him.

 

[DMG]

That's true, but the main change was from throw angles because before his Dthrow was basically a backwards Falcon/Sheik Dthrow without the cool "free hit" aspect lol. People could just DI and tech away, and Wario literally could not follow up. With angles naturally closer to his body (and maybe a bit less end lag on Dthrow, can't tell), he can actually set up a proper TC. WHICH is definitely fairer than a free knee slap CG etc that plenty of other characters get from their throws.

 

[bubbaking]

Wario: No longer like the others, and not just another one of your plays, 'cause you're the pretender, and he will never surrender...

Reflex for Top Tier.

 

[Oracle]

Reflex is a freaking incredible player. Wario isn't amazing but he gives reflex the tools he needs to outplay his opponents

side note: leffen making a run through losers. Wizzrobe defend america!

 

[bubbaking]

Being the best vBrawl Wario main definitely helps since there are similarities (incredible aerial mobility, revamped Bite mechanics, etc).

 

[Kink-Link5]

Leffen has those Swedish fish on his side though. Never doubt the power of sugar and red dye number 40.

 

[cmart]

Reflex risks missing his plane to win Project M GF

 

[bubbaking]

All the other Smash stuff are done? What about vBrawl singles?

 

[Kink-Link5]

Good work, Reflex.

No wait, Wario won something? Time for the tweak bat!

 

[Archangel]

Lets be clear, Wario won what amounts to a local with a poor turn out. Granted the turn out had some great players still, there wasn't even...half the cast present. It was a 16 man tournament. GG's Reflex though. Even for this size he still had a hell of a run. Shout outs to Wizzrobe for getting second and Hbox for forfeiting?

 

[cmart]

Correct. There was only enough time to play out one of either loser's finals or grand finals, and hbox opted to forfeit so grand finals could be played.

 

[bubbaking]

Well, not 100% correct. The invitational had the size of a local, but Melee and P:M high and top level international players were the only contestants. As such, one could say that it was a small tourney with the skill cap and competition of a regional or even a national.

Edit: And it'll be hard to get "half the cast" represented at ONE tourney by high level players.

 

[Archangel]

Well, not 100% correct. The invitational had the size of a local, but Melee and P:M high and top level international players were the only contestants. As such, one could say that it was a small tourney with the skill cap and competition of a regional or even a national.

Edit: And it'll be hard to get "half the cast" represented at ONE tourney by high level players.

Yea....well there was a good amount of high level player in the invitational....however, there are about 20 = players or potentially better players that I could name off hand who were not invited/didn't enter....so...idk it is what it is.