Project M Social Thread

[Zef]

i was playing regular melee today and everything feels so much easier in P:M loooooool

 

[DMG]

Fox has got to be the biggest example of that ****. Everyone and their grandma can double laser in PM

 

[Stevo]

Sure, double laser is easier, but it has messed up my timing on other things.
For example, with Pikachu, when I go to up-air out of shield, I end up doing a doube jump up-air, as I accidentally tap jump when going to do the up-air. Whereas, in melee, it somehow doesn't register my tap jump with the same timing.

I also can't stand how the c-stick has to go back to neutral in Project M lol. Messes me up so bad.

I hope that is on the to-do list. (most likely is)

 

[bubbaking]

Well, since the new characters haven't been out for nearly as long as Melee, the matchup experience is far more limited. This goes both ways, to an extent.

Yes, but there's a difference between 'knowing what every move does at least to some extent' and 'actually not knowing what certain moves do at all.' It doesn't take long at all to learn the former. I did it on day 1 of 2.1's release. Therefore, it's easy for someone with 'enough experience' to come up against someone with far less 'experience' and win the match just from that, despite both being really good players.

Reflex would most likely smash whoever you listed lol. We're talking about a guy who doesn't always switch from wario in the D3 matchup in brawl and doesn't even camp

Reflex definitely camps with Wario in vBrawl. Wario literally can't win that MU if he doesn't camp to at least some extent. DDD can out-prioritize everything he has with one move and just destroy his stocks with the other.

 

[Archangel]

Fox's wave-shine is somewhat nerfed so...it makes up for the double laser thing I think.

 

[Hylian]

Wha. Double laser is like the easiest thing in melee lol.

 

[DMG]

Captain Technical Balls over there, yeah it's easy for you Hylian I've seen you play before lol. I'm talking about like the general population here. Everyone can do it in PM, it feels easier.

 

[Yung Mei]

i cant double laser with fox in PM

;_;

you guys would seriously love how i do it lmao

 

[Hylian]

Captain Technical Balls over there, yeah it's easy for you Hylian I've seen you play before lol. I'm talking about like the general population here. Everyone can do it in PM, it feels easier.

I mean...I think wavedashing is much harder than double lasering even though I can do both >_> lol. I guess it's different for others though.

 

[Pimpfish]

everything is hard at first.

 

[iLink]

I actually have to try harder to shdl in project m compared to melee

 

[Stevo]

I can shdl about 1 in every 20 attempts.

I can shdl about 19 in every 20 attempts in Project M.

I press the jump button that is furthest from B button (X or Y, whichever that is) so maybe that has something to do with it.

lol I sound so scrub.

 

[JCaesar]

I can WD just fine, but I can't SHDL, even in Project M.

 

[GHNeko]

I actually use the analog stick to SHDL and reverse SHDL.

am i weird.

 

[Hylian]

I actually use the analog stick to SHDL and reverse SHDL.

am i weird.

No, it's much easier to SHDL with the stick. That's how I do my drifting lasers that I was known for back in the day.

 

[GHNeko]

"back in the day"

Hylian you sound like an old man


Kappa

 

[Yung Mei]

my method for SHDL is

right thumb hits x to jump
THEN

let go of control stick, then control stick thumb flies over and presses b twice

:o

 

[DrinkingFood]

do you also hold the controller upside down so your B thumb can move the controlstick while you're at it?

 

[Yung Mei]

i cant tell if thats a serious question or not

 

[Dubforce]

i cant tell if thats a serious question or not

Yes you can.

LOL

 

[DMG]

I actually have to try harder to shdl in project m compared to melee

You're weird then

No, it's much easier to SHDL with the stick. That's how I do my drifting lasers that I was known for back in the day.

I dunno about that. Pressing X or Y for SHDL sounds much easier because you don't have to return the stick to neutral and you have to only worry about a short press.

 

[Hylian]

You're weird then



I dunno about that. Pressing X or Y for SHDL sounds much easier because you don't have to return the stick to neutral and you have to only worry about a short press.

I got you covered .

The trick is to FLICK the control stick with your thumb. By flicking it, it auto short hops and auto returns to neutral. Flicking it also doesn't require much tech skill. The reason I'm able to do this and move at the same time is because I double claw while playing fox. Standing SHDL are very easy with this method and holding the controller normally though.

 

[GHNeko]

^^^^

I flick my stick too. Its harder for me to FH than SH when flicking the stick lol.

 

[DMG]

Maybe I'm the weird one then. Only time I use it is when waveshining: canceling shine with a button feels too weird so I Control stick jump out of it and then go back down for the wavedash. I think you probably do that too Hylian, idk just feels natural that way. Everything else though **** that my Y button better pick up the slack lol

 

[Hylian]

Maybe I'm the weird one then. Only time I use it is when waveshining: canceling shine with a button feels too weird so I Control stick jump out of it and then go back down for the wavedash. I think you probably do that too Hylian, idk just feels natural that way. Everything else though **** that my Y button better pick up the slack lol

Nah I double claw remember? So I waveshine with X.

[yt]CcXrAAX-H4M[/yt]

Edit: I had no idea this was being recorded nor did I make this video lol.

 

[DMG]

I thought you said once that you manually waveshined? Who am I thinking about then...

 

[leafbarrett]

I can't even successfully shorthop half the time and I don't know why

 

[Hylian]

I can't even successfully shorthop half the time and I don't know why

Do you use buttons or control stick? If you use the stick just flick it, and if you use buttons try sliding your finger sideways across the button instead of pressing it down so that your finger slides off of it as soon as possible.

 

[leafbarrett]

Do you use buttons or control stick? If you use the stick just flick it, and if you use buttons try sliding your finger sideways across the button instead of pressing it down so that your finger slides off of it as soon as possible.

Button, and the controller is kinda crappy for a wired controller (though it does its job, at least). I'm not sure I even have the finesse for that; it's why I struggle with soft inputs on the shoulder buttons.

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

Captain Technical Balls over there, yeah it's easy for you Hylian I've seen you play before lol. I'm talking about like the general population here. Everyone can do it in PM, it feels easier.

I only SHDL with Z as my special button in P:M lol B button is too much distance, I can do it consistently with B, but it's too much work when the Z button is so much easier

I actually use the analog stick to SHDL and reverse SHDL.

am i weird.

We're talking about Short Hop Double Lazer here right?.... how in the hell can anyone possibly consistently short hop with the control stick, especially with Fox?

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

My bad about the double post, damn computer

 

[Hylian]

I only SHDL with Z as my special button in P:M lol B button is too much distance, I can do it consistently with B, but it's too much work when the Z button is so much easier



We're talking about Short Hop Double Lazer here right?.... how in the hell can anyone possibly consistently short hop with the control stick, especially with Fox?

I explained exactly how above

 

[GHNeko]

We're talking about Short Hop Double Lazer here right?.... how in the hell can anyone possibly consistently short hop with the control stick, especially with Fox?

Yeah I SHDL with Fox in P:M and Melee.

It's actually pretty easy for me. lol (less so in melee bcuzmelee)

 

[CORY]

Nah I double claw remember? So I waveshine with X.

[yt]CcXrAAX-H4M[/yt]

Edit: I had no idea this was being recorded nor did I make this video lol.

dude, that's some sweet controller art!

 

[Jolteon]

dw Neko I use the control stick to SHDL and reverse SHDL as well, I find it 500x easier than X/Y lol.

 

[Hylian]

dude, that's some sweet controller art!

Thanks! My girlfriend at the time made it for me.

 

[NightShadow6]

Man I use the X button for everything.

Only thing I use tap jump is a double shine or OoS.

 

[Hylian]

I use the control stick, X, and Y actually . Different buttons depending on what I'm doing. For example lasering I use control stick, shffling I use X, multishine I use Y.

 

[CORY]

i'm the same way. 10 years of playing with y=jump x=hop means i can't just set y to footstool/taunt, or else i'll run to the ledge and taunt with ganon instead of fair edgeguard : /

 

[bubbaking]

And I always thought I was weird... I always FH with the control stick and I SH (and jump out of Samus' bomb jumps) with X. I never use Y unless I'm doing an insta-DJ from the ground for fast missile cancels on DL64's platforms (I roll my thumb from Y to X to get two jumps as quickly as possible). I also use the control stick for all my JC actions. Using the control stick to FH makes it so much easier to do quick uairs from the ground.

SI also can't stand how the c-stick has to go back to neutral in Project M lol. Messes me up so bad.

I hope that is on the to-do list. (most likely is)

I have this weird issue that I've never had with Melee. Whenever I want to do a short dash > dsmash (basically a foxtrot dsmash), I always get a DA in P:M, but I never have that problem in Melee. Am I the only one experiencing this problem?