_Yes!_
Smash Hero
uh...nevermind this post. I misunderstood. Plank I do not envy you.
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Pound Prizes
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nobody should be forgiving plank. as tightly knit and forgiving as the smash community is, there is no excuse for him using the prize money to pay off his debts. if he legitimately needed the money immediately and planned on refunding us later on i'd have no problem, but he's outright stealing it. as amazing as the pound series as been to me, plank's decision is unforgivable. i really hope you guys aren't considering going to any of his tournies at this point..
DJRome
Smash Hero
isn't that what plank did to m2k and armada?
aho43
Smash Lord
Just to be clear, I was joking. Everyone deserves their money. The best thing to do as a community if you want to help out the people who got screwed the most is to host your own small local tournaments and donate some of the pot to those people. I wouldn't count on Plank to come up w/ the dough.
Albert.
Smash Master
This thread doesn't have enough moral grandstanding.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Well if he doesn't then he'll be forever in darkness anyway, the solution is right here in everybody's face. lol.
Fine but that doesn't mean it ends right here and now. It's not like he killed someone or anything like that, that can't be forgiven for sure but we still livin' and mistakes can be fixed.
Alex Strife
Smash Hero
ksizl4life
Smash Hero
lol fatal youre a dirty guy. 2 wrongs dont make a right.
ranmaru
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Yes. We can learn from this mistake. Should we ask about the payouts persistently in thread? Would it be worth my trip from faraway distant land?
I just feel that with nationals we should be more careful with picking hotels, but then someone brought up a good point that most hotels are like that.
So question is, why do we use hotels? Maybe we should brain storm ideas for better, cheaper venues?
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Well sometimes you don't really a choice to do that because housing is limited and not everyone can do it... but you can always be more careful next time with the hotels. I mean.. anyways everything that needs to be brought to light has already been said.. meaning the door is right there but there can only be one person who can walk through it.. will he? =P
z00ted
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Blacknight99923
Smash Champion
I love what fatal did for 50 dollars.
I'm so ****ing proud to be part of your community.
I'm so ****ing proud to be part of your community.
Eddie G
Smash Hero
Most just won't unfortunately. I recommend people watch Alex's vid and hopefully take something from his wise words on the matter. Seriously kids, live and learn, it'll benefit you in the long run.
SpongeJordan
Smash Lord
Wait, I know I'm late to this, but cramming a ton of people into a single hotel room is absolutely nothing new and should be expected for large events like this. I mean, it's a way of saving money. Hell, I've done it for every single trip, convention, and event I've ever been to. Not only is it negligent to expect people to buy a room per 4 people, it's downright ignorant. This isn't something limited to the Smash community.
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these times infinity to the max
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
I kinda figured you were joking. Which is why I played along with the "kind of."
I wouldn't count on Plank for the money, but I'd be damned if I would just give up right then and there, either. He's got culpability a-plenty here for his actions; he (as the blamed party) should at least get a shot at making amends. If he can't do anything about it right now, give him time. You can't expect **** to happen overnight, especially when it comes to thousands (and thousands) of dollars. I'm sure Plank doesn't piss away a ridiculous amount of money on a day-to-day basis. Some people on these boards don't live at home with Mommy and Daddy, nor do they have the advantage of nice, cushion-y government lodging and/or money.
(I might be looking at SoFatal with my last few comments, what with his trolling and all. I wonder if you have to ask permission to go to tourneys still. Is it past your bedtime?)
Does this necessarily insulate him from punitive action? No. Hell no. If he doesn't do anything about it at all, well, **** it. Draw your lines in the sand. Bring your pitch forks. Do whatever you like. You don't have to wait forever, but just give him a ****ing chance. Even the top placing players are saying this.
Smooth Criminal
And that excuses the fact that he told people not to do it multiple times before the tourney and people said, "no **** you" and did it anyway, quite literally affecting/increasing size of how ****ed up this whole situation is?
Tsch.
I hope not. I hope that's not what you're implying.
TheDekuNut
Smash Journeyman
Plank shouldn't have spent money he didn't have
Plank shouldn't have booked people's rooms before they paid for them
Plank shouldn't have booked people's rooms before they paid for them
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
What's there to learn? Seriously dude? Don't trust TO's?
So Fatal
Smash Master
why are people who didn't even win money going so hard? lol
Blacknight99923
Smash Champion
why did you just go so hard against plank, because your in a sissy fit you lost 50 dollars, instead of being mature about it.
Anddddd proof towards my post.
What is there to learn?
- Look/Ask/Request/Demand Legal documentation for super large tourneys.
- Make sure Tourney's OP is clear in terms of payout/requisites/details in general.
- If hotel rooms for rooming were the product of a deal between TO and the company, make sure that it's extremely obvious that it is the case to all Smashers.
- Listen to TOs when they say, "Dont do X."
- Make consequences of not listening to the TO extremely clear to everyone.
**** like that. There is more, trust me.
There is **** spewed throughout this WHOLE DEBACLE giving the whole community lessons to learn.
If you really can't see even the most obvious ones, I sincerely hope you do not become a leading member of this community in anyway because your obliviousness to lessons to be learned will run this community straight THROUGH the ground, and out the other side of the god damn planet.
Real ****ing talk.
TeeVee
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going hard against plank = getting money you are actually owed?
wut.
plank owed him money so he got his money back lol, i dont understand whats so wrong about that. if fatal DIDNT win 50 and got the refund then yea, i could understand. he paid venue + entry fee for the tournament experience, thats not what he got 50 dollars for...he got 50 for placing in the money. get planks nuts out of your throat for just a few seconds
edit: anti ninja'd me, ****ing gay
So Fatal
Smash Master
this is funny. makes me think that if you bought something for like 50 and gave them a hundred dollar bill and the cashier closed the register without giving change and said "I'll use that for some bills I owe later" You'll be like, im mature it's all good man see ya.
ksizl4life
Smash Hero
I've really had it with the "you didn't win money" or "you weren't there excuses". Wtf do you think, that it puts us in the wrong automatically? That you're auto correct? Yes we may be ignorant to an extent because of it but not wrong. The excuses, They just aren't viable when someone actually has a point. Yes what Plank did was wrong and it's even worse that he isn't here giving everyone an expected date when he will pay people or if he's even going to.
But Fatal you're not exactly in the right for what you did. Far from it. If you were you wouldn't have edited your posts. Idk if the paypal company pays you the money you disputed for from their own pocked but if they didn't, you stole from plank and might have led hundreds of others who saw your posts do the same. 2 wrongs don't make a right and if Plank got close to a 100 per person taken from him on top of this whole mess, you just pulled a a big scumbag move. Not cool.
I'm fairly confident within a month's time plank would've worked something out with the winners. What, you couldn't wait a bit for 50 dollars? you gotta be kidding me man.
Anti, I don't consider it riding on Planks nuts. I don't think Planks in the right at all but to make things worse not just for him but for the community because of how that just looked? Fatal got his entire entry from Pound back, anyone could've done it. It was over 60 dollars, fatal won 50.
anyways, this subject is getting foul and ridiculous for tooooooo many people. Plank stop being ****ing scared and clear everything up NOW. I see you signing on to check the thread and not do anything when you could fix this, not easily but still do it. Man up.
But Fatal you're not exactly in the right for what you did. Far from it. If you were you wouldn't have edited your posts. Idk if the paypal company pays you the money you disputed for from their own pocked but if they didn't, you stole from plank and might have led hundreds of others who saw your posts do the same. 2 wrongs don't make a right and if Plank got close to a 100 per person taken from him on top of this whole mess, you just pulled a a big scumbag move. Not cool.
I'm fairly confident within a month's time plank would've worked something out with the winners. What, you couldn't wait a bit for 50 dollars? you gotta be kidding me man.
Anti, I don't consider it riding on Planks nuts. I don't think Planks in the right at all but to make things worse not just for him but for the community because of how that just looked? Fatal got his entire entry from Pound back, anyone could've done it. It was over 60 dollars, fatal won 50.
anyways, this subject is getting foul and ridiculous for tooooooo many people. Plank stop being ****ing scared and clear everything up NOW. I see you signing on to check the thread and not do anything when you could fix this, not easily but still do it. Man up.
Blacknight99923
Smash Champion
I'm not hear defending planks actions.
What I am saying is I don't understand how doing that makes it any better.
As Kzissle said 2 wrongs don't make a right.
But w.e I guess it isn't my problem
an eye for an eye makes the world blind.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Actually he didn't get his money back. He's trolling hard, Anti. That's not how Paypal works at all.
And if you're so hellbent on talking to Plank, why don't you try and get in touch with him outside of Smashboards? I mean, clearly, this thread is open to the public. They can whine, cry, and do whatever they want as long as the thread's open. If you got beef, you should go directly to the source instead of twiddling your thumbs, and go to it with a ****ing clear head. Why you busy squaring off with the rest of these "extras?" What's there to defend? We know you were wronged. We ****ing get it. Now do something about it.
Smooth Criminal
KoNfucius
Smash Ace
Planking has a whole new meaning now 
im out
im out
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
The only thing I'd say in Fatal's defense on this is: Has Plank indicated he was working on a solution to pay the winners? I didn't see if it he did, in fact the opposite. I saw him say he was leaving, twice I think.
The thing about this whole situation that bothers me is this. This is Plank's like 4th national right? How was his business plan this poorly laid out that he was literally counting on a number of variables that even I, who's been in the smash community for far less time than Plank, know you shouldn't be counting on. Period.
Most business men in this situation would have a lot to account for right now. They wouldn't be able to say "Well I'm gunna go. You might here from me in awhile." without serious reprecussions.
The thing about this whole situation that bothers me is this. This is Plank's like 4th national right? How was his business plan this poorly laid out that he was literally counting on a number of variables that even I, who's been in the smash community for far less time than Plank, know you shouldn't be counting on. Period.
Most business men in this situation would have a lot to account for right now. They wouldn't be able to say "Well I'm gunna go. You might here from me in awhile." without serious reprecussions.
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
You have a big post count. I wouldn't be in over my head like this because I wouldn't have booked a venue that over accounted the money I'd receive to pay out both prize money and hotel.
I don't believe I have a lesson to be learned because I only expected what every TO is entitled to do for the winners. I also followed his guidelines. I live in Maryland so I went home everyday you ****er.
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
people who didn't win money could potentially provide a better and neutral point of view
tho that's not always the case
plus those who went contributed to the prize money. so in a sense, he's using the communities' money as a whole, not just the winners', to whom it belongs to in the end
Mad irrelavant.
Another lesson to be learn. You're not as oblivious as you previous post leads to believe.
And I take it back. If you don't think the things I said that should be learned are worth learning, I stand by my previous post of you being unable to recoginize what is worth being learned and I hope you do not ever gain heavy influence over this community, because your lack of insight outside of the game is astonishing.
Has nothing to do with my post at all.
It's like it's all going over your head or something.
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
Meh, you know nothing about me.
Plank gambled with our money. That's just a fact. He rolled the dice in the hopes he'd win (A certain number of people would attend), but he lost the roll (Not enough people attended). The odds of winning were a 1/6 outcome compared to the 5/6 outcome of losing. The money went to the house, in this case the hotel.
It seems all you do is post and insult people, but cannot except the reality that what he did was wrong and he owes the people who placed into the money for this competition. This has NOTHING to do with lessons that shall be learned (Sure, you can learn something, but that isn't the point of this thread in the first place). This has to do with PAYING WHAT HE OWES.
xFats
Smash Apprentice
Yo real talk i'm like really bad at these type of things but.
From my point in this, all ya'll is dumb, ya'lls got robbed, whoever was owed money hit up plank and speak to him outside of smashboards. just my input
From my point in this, all ya'll is dumb, ya'lls got robbed, whoever was owed money hit up plank and speak to him outside of smashboards. just my input
I don't watch Southpark.. so forgive me for not knowing..Plank shouldn't have spent money he didn't have
Plank shouldn't have booked people's rooms before they paid for them
But how is this relevant?
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