*Pound* 4:: VGBootCamp Debut! Two days. Plank's sanity remaining: 50%

[Foxy]

Foxy is so sexy.

I gave you a Dr. Pepper at HERB2

hell yeah

 

[hungrybox]

Foxy your sig is so sexy.

 

[Foxy]

Foxy your sig is so sexy.

It's even sexier now.

 

[White_Mike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zOQq2N3xA

every1 should watch that

 

[Anth0ny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2egJNHFqpM#t=2m26s

Everyone should watch THAT.

 

[Toronto Joe]

pools of 4 with top2 advancing?....thats gonna **** alot of people over..

 

[Plairnkk]

pools of 4 with top2 advancing?....thats gonna **** alot of people over..

How does it **** any more people over than pools of 8 with top 4 advancing? Its the same % of people advancing, and the good players are spread out through way more pools. Registration is over weeks beforehand so pools will be fair and distributed well.

Either way we will figure out the exact format closer to the date.

 

[Cort]

RAWR COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND rawrrawrraaar

 

[Plairnkk]

hahaha cort is alive. nice.

@canismash, i got a website submission but no payment. until payments come in website submissions just get deleted, so make sure you do another when you register for real

 

[KevinM]

Can I complain too?

 

[Dada2199]

Cant Wait For This!!

 

[Twig]

How does it **** any more people over than pools of 8 with top 4 advancing? Its the same % of people advancing, and the good players are spread out through way more pools. Registration is over weeks beforehand so pools will be fair and distributed well.

Either way we will figure out the exact format closer to the date.

Actually Jon, smaller pools does **** over more people (sorry, but it's true). In general, smaller pools have worse seeding, and therefore require very very careful seeding. Larger pools do of course take much much longer (28 matches as opposed to 6 for 8 per vs 4 per), but careful seeding also takes time (not nearly as much).

My question is I guess, what was wrong with the Pound 2 system?

Pools of 6, top 4 advance (15 matches per pool)
Pools of 8, top 4 advance (28 matches per pool)
Bracket - 64 people

Was there any problem to this method besides time? Pound 2 ran right on time, so maybe this would be a good way to run melee, but Pools of 4 top 2 advance for brawl?

**Also, I know my model was based upon Pound 2 data, which only had 200 entrants (CMON PEOPLE, REGISTER). Of course brackets/pools will have to be modified based upon the number of entrants**

Just my 2 cents. Dont death seed me plox.

 

[Cia]

M2K
CHU
ZHU
TWIG

:o

 

[Twig]

M2K
CHU
ZHU
TWIG

:o

Personally I liked my friend The Newb's 2nd pool at Pound 2:
http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=429

PC Chris
Wife
Joe Bushman
Linguini
Chinesah
The Newb
Anther
Korn

Quality.

P.S. I'd get 2nd in that pool, obviously /sarcasm.

 

[Cia]

lol.. my pound 3 pool insane.
Chillen
Chu
Kage
KM
DJ Combo
Kels
Taki
Me

i've never felt more inferior. lolz

 

[Twig]

lol.. my pound 3 pool insane.
Chillen
Chu
Kage
KM
DJ Combo
Kels
Taki
Me

i've never felt more inferior. lolz

Ouch. Just ouch. Btw Jon if you read this, I'm coming home this weekend, maybe leetle smash?

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

Personally, I thought Pound 2 was one of the best tourneys I had ever been too, even though I was a total noob when I went, lol.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

when does reg close?

 

[Plairnkk]

Probably a few weeks before the tourney, but if i dont get a good # of entrants before november we will have some huge issues

 

[D20]

lol.. my pound 3 pool insane.
Chillen
Chu
Kage
KM
DJ Combo
Kels
Taki
Me

i've never felt more inferior. lolz

Haha! I remember that... and it was only the second round of pools.

 

[Drephen]

jungle japes is banned? boooooooooo

and i dont wanna hear about the klap traps, play the stage smart and it wont effect you

 

[Kasht]

I booked 8 plane tickets for my players in Puerto Rico who are attending Pound 4, so we have 8 players confirmed. BTW, I dont play Smash, but I am the person who makes all the travel arrangements for the PR players (FAST1, Genesis, etc...)

While doing this, I requested an EVENT CODE with Airtran Airways for all the out-of-state players flying into BWI to attend the event. This EVENT CODE will give you a 10% discount on your fare, without taxes. I encourage everybody to use this code as I need to meet a number of people using the code, otherwise I have to pay for the difference.

Anyhow, here is what you have to do:

• Contact the AirTran Airways EventSavers Desk at 1-866-68EVENT (1-866-683-8368) for reservations.
• Provide the following Event Code: BWI011510
• Provide the following Event Name: Pound 4
• Provide the flight details or ask the customer rep to help you find the cheapest rate.
• Once the cheapest rate is found, they will apply a 10% discount on the fare.
• Provide payment info to customer rep
• Enjoy your 10% discount!!!

If someone has any questions dont hesitate to ask me. Also, if someone needs help with finding flights or paying for it, let me know and I can probably assist.

Thanks.

Kasht

P.S. Can someone update the first post with the AirTran fare discount info?

 

[Plairnkk]

That's kind of a cool idea. How many people would have to do it use the event code to get that 10% discount?

 

[Kasht]

That's kind of a cool idea. How many people would have to do it use the event code to get that 10% discount?

The 10% discount will already be applied when you purchase the ticket.

If I dont meet the quota, which is 10 if I remember correctly (i think if we meet 20 everybody gets priority boarding, and 30 the event code owner (me) gets a free roundtrip ticket), I have to pay a fee or the difference, whichever is lower. Whoever used the code by the event date gets the discount regardless, so you shouldnt be worried about meeting that number, I should!

Also, you can call and provide the info just to check for the fare price, no obligation to buy. That way you can verify what the cheapest rate is after the 10% discount and decide whether you wanna buy it or not.

 

[Plairnkk]

ok. thats cool... ill add that info

 

[Kasht]

Thanks man! Its a good $20+ (on a $250 ticket) that you can shave off the plane ticket cost just for using that code. I think everybody should try use it, specially if your city/town flys AirTran.

Here are all the cities that fly AirTran: http://www.airtran.com/cities/index_destinations.aspx

Kasht

 

[FB Dj_Iskascribble]

I think dayton OH is gonna come to this. at least i plan on it anyway

 

[Plairnkk]

that would be tightttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

more and more people just keep saying theyre coming. gonna be so fun ^___^;;;

 

[ajp_anton]

Looks like I have to wait until october until I have enough money to register...

 

[Jonas]

Doesn't Pound 4 have a system that makes it more expensive to register the longer you wait? :/

 

[pockyD]

$5 for entry pales next to $100 in travel expenses

edit: pools of 4 are not legit

 

[Virusbluemage]

Actually Jon, smaller pools does **** over more people (sorry, but it's true). In general, smaller pools have worse seeding, and therefore require very very careful seeding. Larger pools do of course take much much longer (28 matches as opposed to 6 for 8 per vs 4 per), but careful seeding also takes time (not nearly as much).

My question is I guess, what was wrong with the Pound 2 system?

Pools of 6, top 4 advance (15 matches per pool)
Pools of 8, top 4 advance (28 matches per pool)
Bracket - 64 people

Was there any problem to this method besides time? Pound 2 ran right on time, so maybe this would be a good way to run melee, but Pools of 4 top 2 advance for brawl?

**Also, I know my model was based upon Pound 2 data, which only had 200 entrants (CMON PEOPLE, REGISTER). Of course brackets/pools will have to be modified based upon the number of entrants**

Just my 2 cents. Dont death seed me plox.

Nah, let's have 3 rounds of pools. That's a large part of what made Pound 3 so epic. They shouldn't diverge from that formula.

 

[pockyD]

pound3 finished at something like 4 am, and now you're doubling the amount of effective entrants (because you're adding a whole new game; people who enter both events would be counted twice when determining how many matches you expect to have played) while only adding one day

the "formula" needs to change as the parameters do

 

[hungrybox]

20 rounds of pools

best of 1/2 a match

its legit

kasht: GOOD STUFF BRUDDA

 

[ANTi_]

Who wanna team for

Teams

 

[Foxy]

i threw up in my mouth a little

 

[ANTi_]

i threw up in my mouth a little

I know....

 

[SwiftBass]

lol.. my pound 3 pool insane.
Chillen
Chu
Kage
KM
DJ Combo
Kels
Taki
Me

i've never felt more inferior. lolz

Alukard had the HARDEST POOL in the history of smash. And by him I mean me.

M2K(later changed to sliq)
Forward
Wobbles
Azen
Chu
Alukard
Azn_Lep
Swiftbass

I've probly posted this already but that **** was epic when plank anounced it and everyone was like "OOOOOOOOOOOOH ****"

 

[Mogwai]

each round of pools should be pools of 6 with 3 advancing, make it a 48 man bracket with byes for 1st seeds from the last round of pools. it's a nice compromise and gives a more concrete benefit for getting a first seed.

 

[Plairnkk]

true, pools of 6 wouldnt be too bad. id like to be able to have 2 tvs per pool, but we will see about that. depends on entrant #ss