Pokemon Black and White (Spoiler Warning)

[PowerBomb]

What's the max it can get to?

6 Porygon-Z, all with Troll Adaptability Choice Specs.

 

[Fuelbi]

You go West and head to the 2nd Gym.

:/

you go back to the city and talk to the lady with long black hair. She's in the top floor of the far north east house. Afterwards, do what ulti said

At least be THAT helpful ulti

 

[Psyco]

Hmm... Are you guys playing the Japanese version, or did you get your hands on an English version?

 

[Pluvia]

Japanese. There is no English version yet.

 

[Psyco]

That's what I thought. But how would you understand it? or can you read Japanese?... Oh, I think I heard something about a translator.

 

[Kofu]

Unfortunately for "Troll", it seems that it doesn't work as it seems to say.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3007010&highlight=troll#post3007010

 

[Pluvia]

That's a shame. A cool name for a crappy move.

Also the people playing it can read Japanese or are just guessing or using a walkthrough or something.

 

[Kofu]

Another update:

Spoiler

If you saw Serebii's update about the Subway Master and felt that his team of Dustdas, Gigigiear, and Iwapalace was lacking, that's because he did the basic route. If you take a harder set, he has an Ononokusu, Doryuuzu, and Shandera, a much more challenging team.

 

[PowerBomb]

So are the elemental punches tutor moves in B/W?

And can Feraligatr learn Ice Punch as a tutor move?

 

[IsmaR]

I'd imagine not. Kinda glad I went through with the convoluted chain to get Ice Punch onto a Feraligatr as an egg move in DP.

Edit: Nvm, did that to get a Sneasel w/it, actually. Took the long way around, and got Gatr's as a byproduct.

 

[Z'zgashi]

That's a shame. A cool name for a crappy move.

Also the people playing it can read Japanese or are just guessing or using a walkthrough or something.

im just wandering blindly in what i hope is the right direction

 

[Psyco]

Well, looks like I'll be waiting until spring to get it. Does anyone have a list of the new Pokemon with the names translated?

 

[Wave⁂]

Does anyone have a list of the new Pokemon with the names translated?

Google, Serebii, Bulbapedia, PokeBeach.

 

[CT Chia]

the OP of this threadlol

 

[Kofu]

Spoiler

Some (large) pictures of where to find wild Pokemon and the names of the locations.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I lol'd at the event pokemon part for some reason

 

[M.K]

That's such a useful guide, but it also makes me realize how much Game Freak initially trolls us with the map of the region. A good 1/4 of the region is not even....navigable.
In other news, playing through this game is a ****ing BLAST.
In other other news, Overconfidence is the most ****-broken ability in-game that you won't even believe it.
Gyms:

Spoiler

Dento: Surprisingly annoying. The Yorterri is just there to whittle you down until you kill it mercilessly and make it into Chinese food. The monkey (whichever) is equally as annoying, you better have something that is decent against the type and not just a Minezumi or (insert random useless early game Poke here).

Aloe: God dammit, she is actually really difficult. Her Miruhoggu is so powerful for it's level. I'm sure if I caught one of the Rocky Bros. on the routes next to her town, it'd be much simpler, but with my team....nope. Pretty hard hitter, her Miruhoggu is like a 3/4-as-powerful Miltank, and for the 2nd gym, that's pretty beastly.

 

[PowerBomb]

So there are move tutors in Isshu, right? What moves do they teach us?

 

[Kofu]

Grass Oath
Fire Oath
Water Oath
-Exclusive to the Starters' families

Frenzy Plant
Blast Burn
Hydro Cannon
-Exclusive to the Starters' final evolutions

Draco Meteor
-Exclusive to Dragons

 

[MetallicMario]

That's such a useful guide, but it also makes me realize how much Game Freak initially trolls us with the map of the region. A good 1/4 of the region is not even....navigable.

Game Freak used Troll! Its super effective!

I couldn't resist. But they seriously need to make the whole map accessible. it would add a whole lot of content. But I suppose they make up for lackluster maps with awesome Pokemon.

 

[PowerBomb]

Grass Oath
Fire Oath
Water Oath
-Exclusive to the Starters' families

Frenzy Plant
Blast Burn
Hydro Cannon
-Exclusive to the Starters' final evolutions

Draco Meteor
-Exclusive to Dragons

God dang it.

**** you Gamefreak. Feraligatr now has to use Ice Fang for the Encourage boost...

No one knows exactly how Dream World abilities are passed by breeding, so egg moves are still iffy. Hopefully the third version will have better move tutors.

 

[Tomo Takino]

Encourage boost all moves that aren't of a certain power level. It simply negates the effects of those that have 2ndary effects.

 

[PowerBomb]

Encourage boost all moves that aren't of a certain power level. It simply negates the effects of those that have 2ndary effects.

Source? Smogon doesn't have enough info for Encourage.

So what do you guys think about Slip Through Seviper? Switcheroo is new to its movepool too, right?

 

[Pink Reaper]

Salamence @ Life Orb
Naive, Overconfidence
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Draco Meteor
Fire Blast
Earthquake
Outrage

Does anyone else think that this is horribly stupid or is it just me?

I dont but then I never find things that die instantly to Ice Shard to be horribly stupid

Overconfidence Gyarados is where its at.

 

[Tomo Takino]

Source? Smogon doesn't have enough info for Encourage.

So what do you guys think about Slip Through Seviper? Switcheroo is new to its movepool too, right?

My source is Smog actually lol. They confirmed that Flare Blitz does NOT get a boost, but moves without additional effects do.

 

[PowerBomb]

My source is Smog actually lol. They confirmed that Flare Blitz does NOT get a boost, but moves without additional effects do.

Wat

Well, that's awesome. More power to the Gatr.

Have they figured out how Dream World abilities can be manipulated through breeding yet?

 

[Tomo Takino]

Yes they have but I'm far too sick to be caught up. All I know is one simple fact:

Dream World Abilities can be passed.

 

[Kofu]

It appears, for now, that Dream World Abilities are randomly passed if one of the parents has them. If they both have them, then it's confirmed (I think?).

 

[Retroend]

Yes they have but I'm far too sick to be caught up. All I know is one simple fact:

Dream World Abilities can be passed.

awesome!!! looks like i'll get my Damp swampert then.

 

[Chill]

Just a reminder, gym leaders and their pokemon are considered spoilers.

 

[Pink Reaper]

So, I just found out that Staraptor now gets Reckless

This means Brave Bird and Double Edge both have base powers of 240 BEFORE STAB!

 

[Wave⁂]

Does not compute. Isn't Reckless +20% for recoil attacks?

 

[Pink Reaper]

Nope, it's now 100% lol

Reckless: The power of moves that have recoil damage is doubled, but so is the recoil.

 

[Wave⁂]

HOLY ****

Yeah, no safe Staraptor switchins exist.

 

[Tomo Takino]

Hitmonlee's High Jump Kick is now at base power of 260 before STAB o_O Hope you have some ghost pokemon with you.

Hitmonlee
~ Substitute
~ High Jump Kick
~ Stone Edge / Rock Slide
~ Sucker Punch

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Hitmonlee's High Jump Kick is now at base power of 260 before STAB o_O Hope you have some ghost pokemon with you.

Hitmonlee
~ Substitute
~ High Jump Kick
~ Stone Edge / Rock Slide
~ Sucker Punch

Here's hoping that High Jump Kick actually hits.

 

[Wave⁂]

It'd be awesome if Reckless only applies when you miss with High Jump Kick.

 

[Chill]

It appears, for now, that Dream World Abilities are randomly passed if one of the parents has them. If they both have them, then it's confirmed (I think?).

Whoa, I missed this post. That's frackin awesome but it's going to mean that I need to re-breed some pokemon.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

^ What it means chill, is breeding isn't obsolete!

We can breed great IV/Nature Pokemon with these abilities. AWEEESOMMEEEE.


And we'll have to rebreed a lot anyways due to metagame changes. =/ This is why once I get Trainer Card5Star I'm done with Pokemon 'till B/W.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Hitmonlee's High Jump Kick is now at base power of 260 before STAB o_O Hope you have some ghost pokemon with you.

Hitmonlee
~ Substitute
~ High Jump Kick
~ Stone Edge / Rock Slide
~ Sucker Punch

Brave Bird doesnt miss ;o

To give you an idea, Defensive Rotom-H is 2HKO'd by Muscle Band Staraptor's Brave Bird. 4 HP Heatran is OHKO'd 100% of the time with SR up LOL. **** i cant wait to use this thing.