Pokémon Black and White (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[Tomo Takino]

Zook, that pokemon's a gangster, literally. Notice the baggy pants. Its evolved form wears a hoodie. Its Dark/Fighting by the way.

 

[Steelia]

FYI, Giga Drain's power was DEcreased to 75, not Mega Drain's increased... Just thought I'd renote it, if it hasn't already.

Still not diggin' the Wotter final evo. Maybe it'll grow on me. Moreso than Bacon's Fire/Fighting typing, that's for sure.

 

[Zori]

So is the game "out" now?

 

[Zook]

Zook, that pokemon's a gangster, literally. Notice the baggy pants. Its evolved form wears a hoodie. Its Dark/Fighting by the way.

Yeah well I hate gangsters.

It'll be interesting to see its evolved form. Also, I'm one step closer to making a gangster-based team.

 

[Wrath`]

FYI, Giga Drain's power was DEcreased to 75, not Mega Drain's increased... Just thought I'd renote it, if it hasn't already.

Still not diggin' the Wotter final evo. Maybe it'll grow on me. Moreso than Bacon's Fire/Fighting typing, that's for sure.

FYI Giga Drain has had 60 base power forever, so 75 is 15+

 

[Retroend]

wotters evolution never really bothered me. it looks cool. and huge! the feraligatr of this gen maybe? hope it has a good movepool. i'd like to use it for my OU team.

 

[Tomo Takino]

Ya know its really ironic that Game Freak made a fetus pokemon for America when abortion is such a heated Isshu here.

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1309/1284648565453.jpg

 

[Vermy]

Wow. That defense/sp. defense/speed is shocking. Worst fire starter ever.

 

[Retroend]

why pokabu? why gamefreak?!

 

[Tomo Takino]

Don't really know what you guys were expecting on his stats. Basically what I predicted.
http://imgur.com/oWWm6.jpg
http://imgur.com/OVXUm.jpg

 

[Vermy]

I was expecting pretty much the same as Feraligatr.

I hate the fighting one. Looks like a Sesame Street character did 'roids.

 

[Tomo Takino]

Final stage of the croc, picture downsized so he's bigger than he appears: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d167/Hiro391/Sprites/coco.png

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Grass Starter<3333333

Man, some of them look meh, but like every generation they have those Pokemon. There are more I like than dislike, though.

Grass Starter<33333

 

[Kofu]

Zuruggu... (no)

Most of these are decent, but they all do kind of look weird.
It's scary how on-target Hiro's fanart was.

 

[mew1000]

it probably means that your grammar and spelling is HORRIBLE

That was so not cool man

 

[ChKn]

I'm definitely choosing Smugleaf as my starter and getting the Ray Charles Croc. That evo looks so bad-***.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Smugleaf is my favorite grass starter. I went through the games Charizard > Feraligatr/Typhlosion(hard choice) > Swampert > Empoleon...never liked grass. Ever. But this is awesome.

 

[Kofu]

Looks like we have a cloud Pokemon now.

If it doesn't evolve into a cumulonimbus I will be very, very annoyed.

I like Pendora though.

 

[Tomo Takino]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/989552-pokemon-black-version/56398506

whooooooa at this massive info dumb

 

[Kofu]

Wonder if it's accurate, though?

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Coffin Pokemon / Smugleaf / Alligator / Mantis Dragon = 4/6 of my team right there...

Can't see those BSTs being accurate, Zekrom's are kinda low, don't you think?

 

[Tomo Takino]

How is it low? His bst is 645.

For the sake of conversation, let's take it as is. Pokemon that seemed guaranteed OU assuming decent movepools:


Hihidaruma
HP: 105
Atk: 140
Def: 55
SpA: 30
SpD: 55
Spe: 95

And then there's his psychic mode
HP: 105
Atk: 30
Def: 105
SpA: 140
SpD: 105
Spe: 55
Not as great unless special defense means something next gen and speed is less valuable.

#553Warubiaru
Ground/Dark
Intimidate/"Earthquake Spiral"
HP: 95
Atk: 117
Def: 70
SpA: 65
SpD: 70
Spe: 92

Great attack, bulk, speed, and ability.

#642Borutorosu
Electric/Flying
"Mischievous Heart"
HP: 79
Atk: 115
Def: 70
SpA: 125
SpD: 80
Spe: 111
Some powerful stats and great typing for this guy.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

For the sake of conversation, let's take it as is. Pokemon that seemed guaranteed OU assuming decent movepools:


Hihidaruma
HP: 105
Atk: 140
Def: 55
SpA: 30
SpD: 55
Spe: 95

And then there's his psychic mode
HP: 105
Atk: 30
Def: 105
SpA: 140
SpD: 105
Spe: 55
Not as great unless special defense means something next gen and speed is less valuable.

#553Warubiaru
Ground/Dark
Intimidate/"Earthquake Spiral"
HP: 95
Atk: 117
Def: 70
SpA: 65
SpD: 70
Spe: 92

Great attack, bulk, speed, and ability.

#642Borutorosu
Electric/Flying
"Mischievous Heart"
HP: 79
Atk: 115
Def: 70
SpA: 125
SpD: 80
Spe: 111
Some powerful stats and great typing for this guy.

Yeah see the biggest flaw is, Zekrom only having 120 as his max. I can't see that, I just can't. I also pictured the Smugleaf evo as more of a... slow attacker, not a fast wall. A fast wall? Eh.. it also comes from Gamefaqs, which is even worse.

Edit: If the Alligator is that strong though, I'm happy.

 

[Tomo Takino]

We already know Zekrom is a physical attack, his signature move is a physical electric attack. He also has 685 BST.

We've already seen pictures of Smugloard's final stage's stat screen, we already know he's a fast wall.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

We already know Zekrom is a physical attack, his signature move is a physical electric attack. He also has 685 BST.

We've already seen pictures of Smugloard's final stage's stat screen, we already know he's a fast wall.

Alright, I get the first part. (Still, I think Gamefaqs DISTRIBUTION of that 685 is wrong..). Seeing his stat screen, nature, EV, IV do come into effect, so it's impossible (or really hard at least?) to guess that is his BST. It seems a bit low...at least in the defense. Speed is pretty nice though xD

 

[Tomo Takino]

Serebii confirmed the gamefreak post. So those BSTs are. . . . .serebii confirmed!


and ooooooooh my god. The dog pokemon becomes suuuuuch a ******.
http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/muurando.jpg

And jesus look at this thing
#567Aakeosu
Rock/Flying
"Weak-kneed"
HP: 75
Atk: 140
Def: 65
SpA: 112
SpD: 65
Spe: 110

 

[Retroend]

can you tell me where to see the pics of these? a link please?

 

[Tomo Takino]

www.serebii.com is good.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Fast Wall. Smugleaf has potential, but meh 75 Base HP?

How do you know Serebii confirmed it, lol?

 

[Retroend]

aww man wotters final evo doesnt have good speed or sp. def. man this isnt looking too good. i like his design...

the dark/dragons stats look good though. think ill replace tyranitar for him. just hope he can learn dragon dance.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

^ What Dark/Dragon lol?

 

[Kofu]

All of the monkeys have the same BST.

EDIT: The Dark/Fighting thing's evolution has better defenses than offense.

 

[Steelia]

^ What Dark/Dragon lol?

Only one of the most talked about supposed pseudo-legendaries! Get with the program. :|
(lol)
Haven't seen any pictures of it yet, though. Apparently, it looks pretty cool... but DANG, if that text dump is true, then it won't become a fully-evolved 3-headed hydra until Lv. 60+. o_O

Also,

Yeah see the biggest flaw is, Zekrom only having 120 as his max. I can't see that, I just can't.

Base Attack is 150.
There ya go.

 

[Retroend]

^ What Dark/Dragon lol?

here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/989552-pokemon-black-version/56398506

its called # 635 Sazando. it knows levitate. its more of a special attacker according to this but its stats are good and with leivitate its better. hopefully it wont go uber.

someone please put a picture of it up soon.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Alright, thought you meant Ono, the pure Dragon. I see the Pure Dragon hitting ubers, his BST are kinda.... plus he is pure dragon.

Also, I misread Zekrom, I'm dumb leave meh alone D:.

On a third note, I'm excited for the Dark Dragon too. Wish he'd help sandstorm. Tyranitar/Him/Croc/Scizor/Rest omgggg :D

 

[Kofu]

I can't wait to see Tamagetake's evolution, either, it's stats aren't half bad.

And some of these offensive stats are ridiculous. O_O

Notice the Pokemon that evolve by trading the other one needed? Interesting method.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

The new Zubat is kinda terrible. Saw that one coming, lol.

 

[Tomo Takino]

Wanna know who will go to ubers most likely?

#612Ononokusu
Dragon
Rivalry/Mold Breaker
HP: 76
Atk: 147
Def: 90
SpA: 60
SpD: 70
Spe: 97
Already confirmed: he knows Dragon Dance

If any of the new pokemon go to Ubers, its him. He makes Garchomp look like a punk.

 

[Retroend]

yea i know. wont be using him though, ill have the 3 headed dragon plz, lol.

plus there needs to be a move that boosts sp. atk and speed for those special attackers.

 

[Kofu]

Its defenses aren't all that great, though, especially on the Special side.

We'll just have to wait and see. Pity, it looks awesome.

Regarding Hihidaruma... It has a second ability called "Daruma Mode" which can be obtained only on certain ones you encounter in a set way.
Ones with this ability will change into the alternative Forme as soon as they go under half HP.