Pogeymafia: Red and Green - OVER! Who lived happily ever after in Kanto?

[McFox]

Hando, I'm at work and that made me lol. Good show.

And my question to Xonar is: if you are Squirtle, are you wearing sunglasses or not? The answer to this question will determine how awesome you are.

Like I said, I'll get some actual stuff up during the day tomorrow.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm not squirtle, I just love that meme and seeing as I was poisoned it was somewhat funny. I should've gotten burned though xD

Btw guys nobody is roleblocked, just assume that FF's poisoning was an attribute (aka passive)

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Xonar, why do you think that Frozen was a poisoner? His flip had something with "Doc" in its name so I don't see where you get that from. Care to elaborate?

Hando, I asked you about your other suspects.

McFox, you still forget that there's a chance trainers can be nightkilled. If that happens the whole fraction is eliminated. A correct lynch toDay could already tip the game into our favour again.


Can we please lynch Chibo already? I love how half the game openly suspects him but nobody gets behind his lynch. That just screams "distancing" to me because recruited Pokémon wouldn't quite throw their trainer under the bus.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Nop Gheb, not elaborating.

Another thing, as I'm poisoned, would someone who can anti-poison claim? If not, I don't see why I wouldn't claim. Anyone against me claiming?

 

[M.K]

Nop Gheb, not elaborating.

Another thing, as I'm poisoned, would someone who can anti-poison claim? If not, I don't see why I wouldn't claim. Anyone against me claiming?

Okay, like seriously? We are THIS FAR into the game, and you're not going to explain your thoughts? It's already annoying that you are STILL around, and I think it might be about time to get rid of you finally. Your case is typical of someone who avoids a lynch early in the game, then uses the "suspicions" as an "OMG HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?" type of argument. It's almost like a pity plea. You're just riding through the game based upon the idea of "How DARE they accuse me, and now you're targeting me again? POOR ME!" and that makes people shy away, because NOBODY wants to be "that guy" that finally takes you down, only to have you run the slim risk of lynching town.
Please, nobody give him an antidote. It's a risky proposition at this point in the game anyways. I'm sure nobody was PLANNING on doing it, but just in case, don't.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Nop Gheb, not elaborating.

Another thing, as I'm poisoned, would someone who can anti-poison claim? If not, I don't see why I wouldn't claim. Anyone against me claiming?

We have most likely lost already, unless we knock out the mewtwo right now and not get captured. I'm willing to take the risk that you are a captured pokemon, mewtwo or a trainer, as opposed to one of the few wild pokémon remaining.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Chibo why aren't you posting? You were plenty active in Twilight Mafia earlier. Hoping for your scumbuddies to stall things out for you?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

No response to my claiming proposal Gheb?

 

[McFox]

Alright Gheb, here's my scumlist.

Ugh I was going to be diligent and reread the entire topic, but F that, it's over 1000 posts long. Here's what I got.

Meta-Kirby picked up on a good point concerning Xonar that I've been watching for a while now. To boil it down to its essence, Xonar is using the fact that we didn't lynch him D1 as evidence that what he did wasn't scummy. If those two things sound like they are unrelated to you, then you are correct. He also posits that if something was scummy at the beginning of the game, it is invalid now. If that sounds silly to you, then you are 2 for 2.

Chibo fishing hard

Chibo nudging

Related to the above post, Chibo votes Swords only AFTER Xonar does so, for no stated reason

Chibo goes fishing again

Chibo... fishing

Summoner answer the question I have a theory is all.

Confused at what Kevin is getting at but he always does this stuff in every game -_-
Not sure if the question should be answered or not. Then again it doesn't leave us at risk of getting caught since we change location every night if that's how it works.

So... you only supported Summoner revealing his info. (and don't say that's not what you wanted, you voted for him for what he claimed, so either you voted him to get him to reveal how he got his info., or you voted him to prevent him from doing so, and your actions highly indicate it isn't the latter) if you were the one asking it, but once Kevin makes an actual direct query instead of just tossing in his hook (for this metaphor, you are using worms to fish with while Kev uses dynamite), you're against it?

Blah blah blah that's enough for me.

Yes, I do realize it's a wholly incomplete scumlist, as there are at least three scum left in the game (and almost definitely more than that), but those are the two people I'd be most comfortable with lynching atm, and that's good enough for me. I'd go Chibo over Xonar.

Unvote

Vote: Chibo

Xonar, if you want to claim what Pokemon you are, the only danger I see for you is from Mewtwo (or the town). If you haven't been caught by now then I doubt you will be, as we are now past 3 nights in, so both trainers have surely used up their Pokeballs. If you feel comfortable claiming who you are knowing Mewtwo is still available to kill you, then I don't have a problem with you claiming.

Do not agree with anyone who can anti-poison claiming; or giving Xonar the antidote, for that matter.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Okay, like seriously? We are THIS FAR into the game, and you're not going to explain your thoughts? It's already annoying that you are STILL around, and I think it might be about time to get rid of you finally. Your case is typical of someone who avoids a lynch early in the game, then uses the "suspicions" as an "OMG HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?" type of argument. It's almost like a pity plea. You're just riding through the game based upon the idea of "How DARE they accuse me, and now you're targeting me again? POOR ME!" and that makes people shy away, because NOBODY wants to be "that guy" that finally takes you down, only to have you run the slim risk of lynching town.

God, now I'm SO ANGRY.
Are you a ****ing idiot? DON'T YOU THINK I HAVE A ****ING REASON FOR NOT ELABORATING? YOU WANT ME TO ELABORATE? FINE. I'm Mew, ABSORBER. I can absorb any night action done to me and I can use 1 of them every night. THE THING IS, you fckers didn't use ANYTHING on me. Which is why it HAD to be Frozen as I was poisoned at DAY which is when FROZEN died. I also stated that it was an ATTRIBUTE as I couldn't copy it. I also hinted at this with Swords when he died, just go there and reread. I also posted 'I'll just absorb all the hate'... breadcrumb.

Meta-Kirby picked up on a good point concerning Xonar that I've been watching for a while now. To boil it down to its essence, Xonar is using the fact that we didn't lynch him D1 as evidence that what he did wasn't scummy. If those two things sound like they are unrelated to you, then you are correct. He also posits that if something was scummy at the beginning of the game, it is invalid now. If that sounds silly to you, then you are 2 for 2.

Shut up, you both are twisting things.
I never used the fact that I didn't get lynched to defend myself, I use the fact that THERE IS NO ****ING CASE beside the ****ing 'slip' which isn't even ****ing decisive evidence.

Don't even lynch me, I'll die of poison anyway. Anyone able to cure me, go ahead, although I bet nobody will do it. Currently, there are 3 reds, 4 greens and 1 mewtwo, I'm the only wild pokemon left. McFox and MK are obviously in the same team, kill them next, town.
Unvote, Vote: Mcfox

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Actually, that last sentence makes no sense. Have fun, trainers and mewtwo.

 

[Jim Morrison]

God, now I'm SO ANGRY.
Are you a ****ing idiot? DON'T YOU THINK I HAVE A ****ING REASON FOR NOT ELABORATING? YOU WANT ME TO ELABORATE? FINE. I'm Mew, ABSORBER. I can absorb any night action done to me and I can use 1 of them every night.

Does this mean you can not be caught or killed and you can kill another wild pokémon?
I don't think Xonars slip at the start of the game is an actual scumtell, as far as I know, in Dutch it would've made sense, I blame it on English being a second language.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh wait, you don't know what an absorber is?
If someone uses his night action on me, I can use it next night. So theoratically if I got docced by FF and targetted by mankey/mewtwo, I would get the killing and protect power, yeah. BUT I HAVE NO POWERS

 

[~ Gheb ~]

The role is pretty easy to confirm but as we've found out countless times it doesn't matter a lot. As long as you can be recruited claiming a power can only do so much.

 

[Handorin]

I haven't....... been caught.......
So that means...........Red/Green messed......... up at least once................
Based off what.... Xonar said and my word..... (+he will die anyways....)

So next on my list.....

Unvote
Vote: MK

Hi Fisher....

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I didn't even know Jungle was in this game.

 

[CT Chia]

I don't think FrozenFlame poisoned anyone because he would never kill Ronike.
With that in mind, the poisoner must be between Guus and ChiboSempai depending on poisons speed (in a normal mafia game it's 1 day)

Guus, say something.

Defending FF based on that?? Why are you defending someone who is dead like that, I'm just confused.

Poison in a regualr mafia? What? This is an original Pokemafia setup...

Scratch that, I actually think it MUST've been FF who poisoned people. It's probably an attribute instead of a power though.

quad post for tha haters

Doctor Venusaur poisoning people? Really?

Seems Ronike is already dead :/
In that case, disregard that.

Explain this now plz.

FoS: Guus


Will catch up with the rest soon.

 

[CT Chia]

EBWOP, I forgot to copy paste the rest of what I had said in my catch up post. Here is the entire post:

Who wants to set up.......a date on a tropical.....island..............I'm all alone and helpless........I don't know what I would do if I was.....................caught.....

Can you please explain more behind posts like this? It's kind of irritating...

Sorry Marshy/Tom for talking at night, forgot that a modkill ends the day xD. Nice pic btw, Marshy, I KNOW IT FROM SOMEWHERE HUUUUHHH.

Anyways, I was poisoned 2 minutes before FrozenFlame died. Seeing as Pikachu just fainted from poison, expect me to die soonish (tomorrow I guess?) too. With that in mind a claim wouldn't be to bad I guess. Except if someone can cure poison...

It's Day4, that means there were 3 nights of recruiting for red and green, with red having 1 poke less. In theory, we would've already lost so we can safely assume that there's a restriction to recruiting (probably in the form of location)... but there's always the possibility of there being another victory condition for the trainers. :/

Right now I bet my cash on Chiboz/MK
Vote: Chibo

Does it say how you were poisoned? Like by poison powder? Toxic? etc
In Pokemon a trainer can't catch another trainer's Pokemon, which could be another restriction on what you were talking about in the last paragraph.

Just because it might be.....impossible for town to win.....doesn't mean it ends the game..... the 2-3 other....remaining factions............have to fight still.....

Vote: Xonar

How is this a scumtell?

At this point, wouldn't it be best to not go after trainers but go back after who we think might've been caught? If there's town we don't probably won't win if we bust a trainer now, we'd be outnumbered by trainer + pokemon. If we knock out the pokemon first then the trainer (can the trainer rerecruit? dont recall) We could still have a shot.

Hitting a trainer eliminates all of their Pokemon, but finding a caught Pokemon is potentially easier since you can see a flip flop in their play from pre catch to post catch.

FoS Scumbagfever

Only a trainer or a recruited Pokémon would know if knocking out a whole fraction would actually give the other scum party the majority - town isn't informed about whether a Trainer's recruits are succesful or not. For all we know aa trainer might've failed to catch any Pokémon at all in case catching depends on your location. Elaborate.

Curious as to why neither McFox nor Meta-Kirby seemed to have bigger issues with that. You directly quote these posts but don't see such an obvious slip and instead change the subject into a much smaller matter? Hmmmmmmmmm.

Everybody should vote toDay - since Ronike died somebody should be voteblocked, no?

Vote Chibo

I remember Ronike saying something about voteblocking, but I thought he said it was because they would be burned, which a Pikachu wouldn't do. Static makes sense though. But look at the death flavor, he wasn't killed/KOd, he fainted from poisoning which seems to suggest a long term thing. I doubt he was poisoned Night 3, likely at least Day 3.

However to prove that I'm not vote blocked...

Vote Gheb
Unvote

No nvm lol. He died of poison, that doesn't mean that someone is voteblocked TODAY. In fact, I was poisoned start of last night and I'm still alive, so we could search for someone who was voteblocked yesterday.

Just saw this, pretty much the same thing I said.

I don't think FrozenFlame poisoned anyone because he would never kill Ronike.
With that in mind, the poisoner must be between Guus and ChiboSempai depending on poisons speed (in a normal mafia game it's 1 day)

Guus, say something.

Defending FF based on that?? Why are you defending someone who is dead like that, I'm just confused.

Poison in a regualr mafia? What? This is an original Pokemafia setup...

Scratch that, I actually think it MUST've been FF who poisoned people. It's probably an attribute instead of a power though.

quad post for tha haters

Doctor Venusaur poisoning people? Really?

Seems Ronike is already dead :/
In that case, disregard that.

Explain this now plz.

FoS: Guus


Will catch up with the rest soon.

 

[Handorin]

@Chibo-
I was saying....I want to be captured.....it would be pretty cool at this point.....considering wild pokemon have little chance of winning....

Also, I never said.....it was a scumtell......am I not allowed to comment, and then......vote for someone in.....the same post...?

 

[CT Chia]

I more mean your posting style

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Chibo, who's scum?

McFox, that post was hella weak. Like the only TWO people you even mention are also those who happen to get the most heat already. Anything genuine or are you just repeating the general consensus in your own words?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Does it say how you were poisoned? Like by poison powder? Toxic? etc
In Pokemon a trainer can't catch another trainer's Pokemon, which could be another restriction on what you were talking about in the last paragraph.

It doesn't, and true.

Defending FF based on that?? Why are you defending someone who is dead like that, I'm just confused.

Poison in a regualr mafia? What? This is an original Pokemafia setup...

At the time I was thinking a poisoner is anti-town. FF wouldn't poison Ronike, so he would have to poison those 2, as they didn't vote. But it all didn't make sense as the poison probably lasted a while before fainting, so the voteblocking thing doesn't work.
(people who didn't vote last day were FF, guus, chibo, and 2 dead guys, I don't think FF would poison, so it's between guus and chibo, but disregard it)

Doctor Venusaur poisoning people? Really?

Did you even READ my claim? Venusaur has poison powder, btw.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Explain this now plz.

FoS: Guus

I joined a game, read the few pages that were made since I joined first. Then I had to read sixty pages after which I forgot the flip last night. Dumb? Yes.
It's odd how you call me out on this when somewhere in day 2 McFox did exactly the same while he had been in the game since the start, was there when Kirbyo got lynched, but still voted him. I got a FoS, but he didn't? Why not?

 

[Handorin]

I more mean your posting style

My "...."...? I'm just tired..., dude....

Also, I'll be.....V/LA for the most....part this weekend.......due to a tournament......

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh yeah, I'm also V/LA this weekend, 2 smashfests in 1 weekend, lol.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Xonar is there something that makes you so sure that red has 3 and green has 4?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Nah, it was just a bit of an idiotic statement made in the middle of my rage x.x

Seeing as I am wild, and mewtwo is there too, there are 6 captured pokemons max. I believe Gheb to be wild, but I don't really think a trainer would NOT recruit Gheb. So, looking at the player list/posts, I def think that I'm the only wild left x.x

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Request Votecount

 

[Xiivi]

Route 4-3
Junglefever: (0)
ChiboSempai: Gheb_01, McFox (:item9: :item9:)
Gheb_01: (0)
Handorin: (0)
McFox: Xonar (:item9:)
Meta-Kirby: Handorin (:item9:)
Guus: (0)
Xonar: (0)
Not Voting: Guus, Meta-Kirby, ChiboSempai, Junglefever (:item9: :item9: :item9: :item9:)

It takes 5/8 to lynch.

Deadline has been set for April 30th 2010 11:59AM EST.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Looks like scum is running the clock

 

[McFox]

Well, I'm happy with my vote on Chibo. Xonar's AtE, loud though it was, wasn't particularly convincing either. True, if he is wild then the "slip" was just an innocent miswording, but I haven't liked the way he's played most of the game.

Would also be willing to lynch Guus. However, I'd rather go Chibo first.

 

[Xiivi]

Meta-Kirby has been prodded.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Would also be willing to lynch Guus. However, I'd rather go Chibo first.

Why is that?

 

[McFox]

I don't have a reason I can post about right now, just posting in favor of your lynch is all.

 

[Xiivi]

ChiboSempai has been prodded.

 

[M.K]

Unvote

Urg....I have this lurking suspicion on Hando, but it's going to have....to wait. I've got to more closely examine some aspects of this game.
Jesus, it's getting down to the nitty gritty here >_<;;

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Can people please start to get voting?

 

[Jim Morrison]

Unvote

Urg....I have this lurking suspicion on Hando, but it's going to have....to wait. I've got to more closely examine some aspects of this game.
Jesus, it's getting down to the nitty gritty here >_<;;

Uhm, what exactly is the reason for your unvote?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Vote Metakirby

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@People who vote MK

Do you guys think he's a trainer?