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Pogeymafia: Red and Green - OVER! Who lived happily ever after in Kanto?

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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I can vote. Here:

Vote: KevinM

Incase you wanted confirmation.

My suspicions in this post (http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9951191&postcount=816) still pretty stand.

Mhm, McFox, I do understand your buddying accusation, but the thing is, on D1 'buddying' doesn't say anything when there's only Mewtwo(only 1), Trainer(on his own) and another one: Trainer(also on his own).
D2 I understand is different, but I don't really see much buddying from my side towards Summoner. The thing is, everyone who is voting Swords is a front, the difference in this situation being that coincidently (spelling?) me, swords and summ were online at the time.

McFox, Swords: who do you guys want lynched?
Buddying can happen regardless of how many people of each alignment there are. Anti-town can buddy town, town can buddy town, anti town can buddy anti town. The act of buddying is one that needs to be scrutinized in order to extract what kind of buddying is going on. Just because the anti town players in this game (we assume) stood alone D1, that doesn't mean they couldn't be buddying people for various purposes.

If scum only buddied other scum I'm pretty sure that'd become a pretty poor strat for scum very quickly.

Thanks, unfortunately that didn't help my theory.

Ahh well, looks like they have something rather effective.

However didn't you say you could be trapped so why do you think all of a sudden you can just move?
What's the deal with this theory? Is there a good reason why you can't explain to us what you were hoping to get from the claims you were asking for?

Not really opposed to a Swords lynch. I'll hammer if people want, or someone else can go ahead and do it. Obviously the site instability isn't helping but the game is getting pretty stagnant (though I'm certainly not helping very much in that respect). Let's get the game moving again.
 

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Just hammer......I still have site problems.....on occasion..................
Says the guy that has barely been in this game! Why you want hammer when we can spend time scumhunting? Deadline has been removed until further notice. Would be best for town if you waited until deadline to hammer.
 

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Says the guy that has barely been in this game! Why you want hammer when we can spend time scumhunting? Deadline has been removed until further notice. Would be best for town if you waited until deadline to hammer.
I'm sorry....that I'm not an "active" poster......to your standards........and that crashboards sucks......and I often work 12 hours a day...... tbh......this day has gone on forever...............and I could care less now......and don't even talk about "scumhunting".....until you know what you are talking about.......
 

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What do you mean you could care less? You don't want town to get all the time of day it can get? Explain yourself.
 

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What do you mean you could care less? You don't want town to get all the time of day it can get? Explain yourself.
I don't enjoy......spending an eternity on a day..............we could spend a year on one day........but will we really be...............better off....? I doubt it......
 

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Route 2-8
Junglefever: (0)
ChiboSempai
: McFox (:item9:)
frozenflame751: (0)
Gheb_01: (0)
Handorin: (0)
KevinM: frozenflame751 (:item9:)
McFox: (0)
Meta-Kirby: Xonar, Gheb_01 (:item9: :item9:)
Ronike: (0)
Soaring-Raptor-Blast: SwordsRBroken (:item9:)
SummonerAU: ChiboSempai, Junglefever (:item9: :item9:)
SwordsRBroken: SummonerAU, Soaring-Raptor-Blast, Meta-Kirby, KevinM, Handorin, Ronike (:item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9:)
Xonar: (0)
Not Voting: (0)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline for Day 2 has been set for April 8, 11:59AM EST!
 

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You know what, i'm sick of this, i'll just hammer myself. Tired of being ignored. Vote: Swords

Now scum can get another kill. Whoopee.
 

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Day 2 Ends & Night 2 Begins

Route 2-9
Junglefever: (0)
ChiboSempai
: McFox (:item9:)
frozenflame751: (0)
Gheb_01: (0)
Handorin: (0)
KevinM: frozenflame751 (:item9:)
McFox: (0)
Meta-Kirby: Xonar, Gheb_01 (:item9: :item9:)
Ronike: (0)
Soaring-Raptor-Blast: (0)
SummonerAU: ChiboSempai, Junglefever (:item9::item9:)
SwordsRBroken: SummonerAU, Soaring-Raptor-Blast, Meta-Kirby, KevinM, Handorin, Ronike, SwordsRBroken (:item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9:)
Xonar: (0)
Not Voting: (0)

SwordsRBroken travels along his path. Starting at Route 2-1, he argues with the other wild pokemon and threats amongst him to try and determine who is a threat. However his path ends at Route 2-9. Once he reaches this point, he is quickly attacked by a mob of other pokemon and such, and lynched!

SwordsRBroken (Magikarp, wild Pokémon
, unevolved vanilla) has been knocked out!

Deadline for Night 2 has been set for April 8, 11:59PM EST!
 

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Day 3 Beings & Night 2 Ends!

Another day broke in the lovely land of Kanto, but it was less than lovely when the sun came up and again the wild pokemon heard the call of someone fainting. The Pokemon found a shattered Pokeball on the ground and next to it, the body of a fainted pokemon:

KevinM (
Red Team Pokemon Trapper Dugtrio).

While they were sad to see any pokemon take a hit like the one KevinM seemed to have endured, they were at least content that it was a captured Pokemon who had fallen in the night and not one of the wild and free pokemon. They could only hope that one of them would not be the next to fall.

Day 3 Begins


Route 3-1
Junglefever: (0)
ChiboSempai
: 0)
frozenflame751: (0)
Gheb_01: (0)
Handorin: (0)
McFox: (0)
Meta-Kirby: (0)
Ronike: (0)
Soaring-Raptor-Blast: (0)
SummonerAU: (0)
Xonar: (0)
Not Voting: SummonerAU, Soaring-Raptor-Blast, Meta-Kirby, Handorin, Ronike, ChiboSempai, Junglefever, Xonar, Gheb_01, McFox, frozenflame751 (:item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9:)

It takes 6/11 to lynch.

Deadline has been set for April 19th 2010 11:59AM EST.

Soaring-Raptor-Blast has requested replacement. If a replacement is not found within 48 hours he will be modkilled. The modkill will only end the day if he is town-aligned, any other alignment will involve the day continuing.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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Okay.
So KevinM has been hardbody location fishing (thanks m2 for shooting him), this would be a good plan for a trainer+pokemon, as the pokemon gets information for the trainer without getting the trainer in too much risk.
I think what we should look for is somebody who is not against the rolefishing but not ENTIRELY with it either. I'll reread d2 through later on.
 

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Hmm. The current assumption is that Mewtwo's speed is the highest, so his actions happen before other people's. If this is the case, it would seem to me like Kev got caught N1. This makes his push for captured Pokes to claim on D2 kind of weird. Would he have claimed if someone else would have?
 

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Just going by Smogon (The forefront leader in Pokemon competitive standards) the Pokemon of the first generation (1-151) with the highest speed are:

1. Electrode
2. Jolteon
3. Aerodactyl
4. Mewtwo
5. Dugtrio
6. Alakazam
7. Persian
8. Starmie
9. Gengar
10. Tauros

Mewtwo beats Dugtrio (base stat wise) by 10 points. (130 to 120)
 

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I just noticed that there's a few people with pokemon avatars in this game. Funny coincidence, eh?

Anyway, I love games that are dead!

Hando, I'd like to see much more from you
Jungle & Gheb, nothing to say?
Meta-Kirby, do you think that Mewtwo's night kill would have priority similar to normal mafia games or will it be based purely of base speed? What do you think about the 3 pokemon above him?
Frozenflame, why did you ask about speed? (don't answer if it's for a touchy reason)
Xonar, I dislike your last post, but I'll still look at the results you get.
To those guys that haven't posted yet: WHY AREN'T YOU POSTING?
 

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Yes Hando.

Were you expecting something else? It's hard to tell because you haven't said anything about it.

What were you expecting other than that Hando? I'm kinda confused as I only asked two mechanics questions and they were to people who, you know, were asking about them.

Why am I above Gheb and Xonar all of a sudden Hando?
 

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Okay.
So KevinM has been hardbody location fishing (thanks m2 for shooting him), this would be a good plan for a trainer+pokemon, as the pokemon gets information for the trainer without getting the trainer in too much risk.
I think what we should look for is somebody who is not against the rolefishing but not ENTIRELY with it either. I'll reread d2 through later on.
What do you think about this post Hando? Do you agree/disagree with Xonar's ideas?
 

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Yes Hando.

Were you expecting something else? It's hard to tell because you haven't said anything about it.

What were you expecting other than that Hando? I'm kinda confused as I only asked two mechanics questions and they were to people who, you know, were asking about them.

Why am I above Gheb and Xonar all of a sudden Hando?
Cause I said so................ right now......

What do you think about this post Hando? Do you agree/disagree with Xonar's ideas?
Just look.....at Kev in general.....................you might find connectio........................
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Nah, I didn't ask about speed for any touchy reason. I just wanted to confirm whether or not speed had a strong deterring effect in attempted Mewtwo kills or something. If Dugtrio died and had a greater base speed it could easily be concluded that speed has little to no influence on Mewtwo's ability to kill. Since Dugtrio doesn't have a greater speed though, that doesn't really provide us with much info at all.
 

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I just noticed that there's a few people with pokemon avatars in this game. Funny coincidence, eh?
:059:

Jungle & Gheb, nothing to say?
It's not like I have nothing to say. It's just that I want other people to start saying stuff for a change. And I think I've said a lot over the course of the game - not primarily about game mechanics (something other players did a lot to feign activity) but more about actually hunting scum. I think I have made legitimate cases on Meta-Kirby and McFox.

I don't feel like many players have put as much effort into actually finding scum as I did. It's a bit frustrating and I think Chibo's the worst of the bunch. I have another reason to vote him but that's a bit more metagaming.

Nah, I didn't ask about speed for any touchy reason. I just wanted to confirm whether or not speed had a strong deterring effect in attempted Mewtwo kills or something. If Dugtrio died and had a greater base speed it could easily be concluded that speed has little to no influence on Mewtwo's ability to kill. Since Dugtrio doesn't have a greater speed though, that doesn't really provide us with much info at all.
Jolteon and Aerodactyl aren't actually "above" Mewtwo in terms of speed but tied with him - Electrode is the only Pokémon that's truly faster than Mewtwo in generation 1. If what you said is true then only Electrode would be able to acually avoid the kill.

Then again we should avoid to claim as much as possible in the first place. It's not like we learn anything new from it - we just have confirmation to keep the old (to claim as little as possible) in mind once again.

Frozen, I'd really like to know who you think the play is though. Swords was your only suspect I can remember yesterDay but he's confirmed town now. Any updates? I think we could make some good progress if you were more vocal about your suspects.

:059:
 

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I really doubt that even if Electrode is in this game, that he's un-NKable. My assumption is just that speed determines the order of night actions.

Vote: frozen

From what I remember, frozen made maybe 3 posts total yesterDay, with only 1 of them really contributing much.
 

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Junglefever: Junglefever, Handorin (:item9: :item9:)
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: Gheb_01 (:item9:)
frozenflame751: McFox (:item9: )
Gheb_01: (0)
Handorin: (0)
McFox: (0)
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Ronike: (0)
Soaring-Raptor-Blast: (0)
SummonerAU:(0)
Xonar: (0)
Not Voting: SummonerAU, Soaring-Raptor-Blast, Meta-Kirby, Ronike, ChiboSempai, Xonar, frozenflame751 (:item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9: :item9:)

It takes 6/11 to lynch.

Deadline has been set for April 19th 2010 11:59AM EST.

ChiboSempai has been prodded. Ronike has been fake-prodded due to V/LA.
 

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Oh wow I didn't even realize the Day 3 flavor was up this long, I saw it late last night but didn't feel like posting until this morning.

Xonar - why are you so sure that it was Mewtwo that killed Kevin? Are you sure there is no vigilante type of role?

Already seeing two votes in the first 8 posts of Day 3 with no explanation on either and on different people is awkward.

Hando - don't see why you think Summoner is scummy there
Why did you seemingly cut your post 905 off?
 

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so you only felt like posting...after being prodded?

I find that irritating.
 

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so you only felt like posting...after being prodded?

I find that irritating.
i had already planned on posting today when I got to work instead of when I saw the thread late last night. just commenting on the fact that I didn't realize d3 had been up for a few days already, probably not noticing it from a lack of swf time thx to my tourney on sat and an abundance of 502504 errors.

@ Xonar: lol wow completely forgot about that
shows how much stuff I forget after not posting in here for a while
 

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I will be unable to post/read anything today (most likely) because I have a presentation tomorrow. If I happen to be done earlier today (this evening) I will read and post. Otherwise, expect me not to do much today.
 

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Oh wow I didn't even realize the Day 3 flavor was up this long, I saw it late last night but didn't feel like posting until this morning.

Xonar - why are you so sure that it was Mewtwo that killed Kevin? Are you sure there is no vigilante type of role?

Already seeing two votes in the first 8 posts of Day 3 with no explanation on either and on different people is awkward.

Hando - don't see why you think Summoner is scummy there
Why did you seemingly cut your post 905 off?
Pressure..... :mad:
But it didn't do...........much........
I've cut off..............posts before.....I'm just get a bit.........to tired sometimes...................
 

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I really have to reread

I replaced in, then day ended, and then we keep getting 502'd.


Still not liking Summoner.
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Posting to avoid prod basically but yeah McFox's callout on me is legit and Gheb is lookin for answers so I'll try to get to work on fine tuning some reads. This game does need more activity and I'm certainly not helping much at this point but yeah, I'll try to get something up tomorrow.
 
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