Peach+ Get Pimpslapped!

[Meru.]

Sooooo....

How is everything going? How is Peach? Any discoveries? Not much has been said after the set was released.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

I never know unless I try here...

Has anyone found out what determines the item Peach pulls when using her Down Special? There's codes to make her pull a specific kind of item but I'm wondering if anyone has found out what actually codes for what she pulls up. Does she pull a specific Turnip after a set number of commands for example?

As far as I know its controlled by a RNG but if someone found a way to abuse that...well, normal ordinary Peach could become a Bob-omb mainac

 

[THO]

So, I'm not sure if people already do this, but the up-b is peaches only real way to get to the top platform on battle field quickly, and with the up-b having less lag than before, its actually a pretty legit way to get up there.
I'm sure yall know this already, but sometimes its good to look at what the changes to BP make better for character mobility.

I also came to realize that you can adjust the angle of peaches up-b depending on which direction you hit the joystick up. This was probably already noticed but you can see it really clearly when you try to up-b onto the top platform. If you go straight up you can make it, but if you go slightly forward you won't land on top of the platform and just drift under. I didn't know this and it could matter alot when you are trying to perfect the edge.

On another note, the change the made to peaches bair makes bairing off of the edge much easier. Before I had to have really good timing in order to bair and then jump and up-b back to the edge without dying. Now its way easier and pretty much doesn't take any timing at all, another good thing to note.

Also, this isn't so good against good opponents, but if someone messes up and just predicts a forward throw (which kills now) so that they DI up, and then you down throw you get an upsmash or other powerful hit at high percents on most characters. This gives peach a bit of a better mix up between up, down and forward throw and can lead to low percent kills.

You all probably already know this but i just figured I'd point out a few useful things that have really been helping my game out lately. Also, I'm trying to wake up this thread.

 

[Myst007_teh_newb]

I really like Peach's new B-up. I can totally see huge potential in this move once people learn the specific timings and stuff. Also thanks, THO, for the Battlefield info! I didn't know that. =]

 

[Meru.]

I'm bumping this just to say that

HER FTHROW IS AWESOME!!!! x3

I just love ***** slapping my opponent to death.

 

[Gangsta_inc]

I'm bumping this just to say that

HER FTHROW IS AWESOME!!!! x3

I just love ***** slapping my opponent to death.

it's pretty fun it's just a shame that RC1 is so broken

 

[_Keno_]

Just wondering, but has peach's awful airdodge been given the normal amount of invincibility? 29 frames instead of 19? And if not, would it be difficult to do?

 

[Alphatron]

If anything, Peach's airdodge may be left alone while everyone else's gets nerfed.

 

[Meru.]

All airdodges have been nerfed except for Peach's. I think she does have approx. 3 frames less invincibility than others, but it doesn't matter so much.

 

[Meru.]

Why has her Usmash received a nerf? Or is it a mistake in the PAL port? It's pretty important to know.

 

[RyokoYaksa]

I'm pretty sure Peach's Usmash has never been changed.

 

[goodoldganon]

I'm pretty sure you are regular + player so I assume it's not Brawl+'s higher gravity settings throwing you off. All I can assume is good DI by the opponent. I'm with Ryoko in saying we are 99% sure nothing was change with that move.

 

[Meru.]

I've tested this on CPU opponents and I'm sure it has got weaker. I think it's a small mistake in the port, I'll go after it. I just wanted to know if it was intended or not.

 

[Cia]

I should probably subscribe to this thread.

Since I'm probably the best Peach :D

<3

 

[Meru.]

I suggest updating the OP

Anyway, any news?

 

[StarshipGroove]

My CPU Peach just executed a cool tech, basically she jumped forward very fast with a lot of momentum, on Frigate Orpheon. I have the replay, in case someone wants to see it.
Edit: ok, here's the link
http://www.filefront.com/15088661/rp_091208_1957.bin/
Version 5.0 RC1

 

[Smash G 0 D]

I should probably subscribe to this thread.

Since I'm probably the best Peach :D

<3

Besides lloD.

;D

 

[Cia]

I haven't seen Llod's Peach, but he's good player in general. So we'll see. I still think mine is top

 

[GHNeko]

Man. Peach is still annoying.

I need to turn it into a habit to hold up when I land near Peach.

ffff dsmash.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

I haven't seen Llod's Peach, but he's good player in general. So we'll see. I still think mine is top

Well.. maybe because we both just started today.

But trust me, come back next week and you'll have some competition.

Oh and for the record I'm lloD's coach in every smash game. XD

 

[Isatis]

Not to get too off-topic -- but I'll vouch for lloD's Peach as well, it's beast x_x

 

[GHNeko]

Are there replays?

I have MUs I really need to learn.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

I'll put some lloD Peach+ vids up later after we actually get good xD

Expect him to be losing to my Luigi+ though.

 

[lloDownedu74]

Lol VaNz you're on xD I tried out Peach today and she's sooooo much faster. I feel like brawl peach is a melee character.

I haven't done many of the grab combos yet, but I'm gonna test them out soon.

We'll see who's top peach+ in a few days

 

[GHNeko]

Why must you developed the character that annoys me the most. T_T

 

[Smash G 0 D]

You can actually play aggressive Peach from what I've seen so far..

I'm excited to develop these guys' metagames

Lemme in the WBR, sir. ;D

 

[GHNeko]

Do good in the community, then we'll talk.

 

[JCaesar]

Smash God and lloD, are you going to Chu's this weekend? I wanna play you.

 

[shanus]

You can actually play aggressive Peach from what I've seen so far..

I'm excited to develop these guys' metagames

Lemme in the WBR, sir. ;D

We will have applications soon. make sure you keep your eye out :-)

 

[Smash G 0 D]

Smash God and lloD, are you going to Chu's this weekend? I wanna play you.

No ;~;

Strict Indian parents say no tournaments ever again.

Which means no tournaments until Pound 4 D:

But I'm all for WiFi.

@Shanus: ;D

 

[Meru.]

Lol VaNz you're on xD I tried out Peach today and she's sooooo much faster. I feel like brawl peach is a melee character.

I haven't done many of the grab combos yet, but I'm gonna test them out soon.

We'll see who's top peach+ in a few days

Peach is really really fast. She was already was fast in vBrawl, in Brawl+ her attack speed is just WOW. Her movement speed... nah, not so much, but her attack speed is BAM!

I just love Peach+ xd.

 

[THO]

Yo, so who is going to Pound 4 and entering B+. I just wanna see if any peach mains are going to show up.

 

[Roxas215]

Been totally out the brawl+ loop. Anything that needs updated in the OP let me know!

Whats new with peach is GSH2?

Yo, so who is going to Pound 4 and entering B+. I just wanna see if any peach mains are going to show up.

If my money is right im going. However i need to practice heavily. Haven't played brawl+ in about 2 months.

 

[Cia]

^ she *****.

Dthrow is less broken tho.

 

[Roxas215]

O ok. I need to try her out.

Is her grab combos still intact?
Was anything done to her randomness?(Hope not)

 

[Meru.]

O ok. I need to try her out.

Is her grab combos still intact?
Was anything done to her randomness?(Hope not)

Yes.
Fsmash has a pattern.

 

[The Cape]

F smash has a pattern (I think this was in RC1)
Umbrella knocks out less often
D and U throw were reworked. If you call a DI (and use the right throw) you should be able to combo to uair for a KO, but not U smash.
Uair received more base and growth knockback as well

So she got a few buffs and a few nerfs.

 

[Meru.]

F smash has a pattern (I think this was in RC1)

Yup.

Umbrella knocks out less often

I don't understand this. Ya, I'm stupid.

D and U throw were reworked. If you call a DI (and use the right throw) you should be able to combo to uair for a KO, but not U smash.

;_; Ah well, Uair is good too.

Uair received more base and growth knockback as well

I don't if this is good or bad. I can't combo anymore with Uair, but I can kill. I think I prefer comboing, but ah well.

 

[Morrigan]

I don't understand this. Ya, I'm stupid.

It means upB KOs less than before. That's about it.

 

[Meru.]

... Why is that? UpB never ko'd...