Official "Who is going to return?" topic

[Moon Monkey]

All the original SSB64 characters at least

It wasn't me

 

[Wrath`]

TWOK is now into multiquotin'

*Kicks the bucket*

I was wrong for mentioning Falco. o__<

Though, it's still sad to see Roy leave... at least for me.

ROY WILL STAY

You realize there are lots of people who prefer Pichu over Pikachu right? I'm pretty sure there's more potential for Pichu having a new moveset than Doctor Mario. True Doctor Mario can be a costume, but there are lots of moves from the Pokemon game Pichu has the potential to use. Pichu wasn't a watered down version of Pikachu; he has a different playstyle. Therefore Pichu should stay if everyone else should. If Pichu gets taken out, some other characters should be taken out too.

Pichu was realy just a popularity character,scince then it has gone down,so i belevi him to leave

I personally think if 3 characters leave, it'll be Young Link, Pichu, and Roy.

why not Dr. Mario?
well... first off, I love him too much. second off, here's my legit reasoning that thou must bathe in:
Roy and Marth are from Fire Emblem. like just about every game in any given series, if you're good at one game, you'll be above average in others you play.
Link & Young Link: Zelda, OoT. heck, they're even in the same game. And, I learned that since I'm slightly above average in one ZXelda game, that I'm about average in another.
Pichu and Pikachu are in every game together--well, at least Pikachu is in every game that Pichu is in. doomed.
as for Mario and Dr. Mario: two COMPLETELY different series. I still wonder why Doc ahd the mushroom and not like a pill or a virus, similar to the way Wario has the 'W'.
it's the reason I can rock at the Dr. Mario series but suck worse than nubz at any Mario game I lay hands on.
@ no one in particular: don't try to lie to me. when it comes to just about any given seires, if you've played one you've played (or at least gotten the gist of) them all.
Mario (/) = Dr. Mario.

oh, and for SSBM< differences...
Doc's Smashes > Mario's.
Doc tends to give more damage
Mario is faster
Mario's fair is a meteor, while Docs pwns you while you're still on land
needless to say, the pills and the fireballs are different
Dr. Mario (at least with me or any given CPU) has a tendency to give out lots of easy damage in comparison to Mario. I used Mario and did the same moves with Doc, but to no avail.
as said in my sig, there's your sign.

Y. link has been in more games than DR. mario, dr. mario is mario just with a dr suite on. Plus y link has been in games that his older counter part was never in
.
your dr/mario diffrences can be aplyied to roy y link and pichu,just cause you piont out some in dr. mario does not mean there are not some in others.













MY first crack the multiquote

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Just because you "love" a character doesn't mean they'll return. You're not Sakurai, so you have no influence on who stays and who goes.

Roy's gone, Doc's gone, Pichu's gone. Those are the only characters I'm ABSOLUTELY DEFINITE about.
Young Link could stay because he plays quite differently than Link.
Ganondorf plays TOTALLY DIFFERENT than Captain Falcon, so he's in.
And Falco is just too popular to be booted.

 

[Rhyme]

So how is Pichu better? If that Usmash thing is true, it's negligible.

Also, can someone clarify for me what the difference between spikes and meteors is?

Well it's not true anyway. Pichu's got a larger sweetspot on his Usmash which makes it easier to hit with. However, if you can hit with Pikachu's sweetspot then his is stronger. People also tend to DI Pichu's Usmash the wrong direction which gets them killed; most people aren't familiar with playing against either of the electric rodents.

A spike is what Marth and Falco have. It initiates with next to zero start-up lag, has plenty of cool-down lag, and *cannot* be canceled with a jump. Everyone else in the game (except for Pichu, Doc, Pikachu, Shiek, Peach, Bowser[JIGGS! I forgot jiggs. ] Which reminds me, Pikachu's Uair is kinda spikish if you use the right hitbox) have Meteor Smashes, which can be canceled with a jump, or Meteor Canceled. I say *cannot* because I've seen two cases (one on video) of someone meteor canceling Marth's spike. I still have yet to see anyone do the same with Falco's spike, however.

Roy's gone, Doc's gone, Pichu's gone. Those are the only characters I'm ABSOLUTELY DEFINITE about.
Young Link could stay because he plays quite differently than Link.
Ganondorf plays TOTALLY DIFFERENT than Captain Falcon, so he's in.
And Falco is just too popular to be booted.

Not like it's a deffinate, but Shiek's probably gone as well. There are other possibilities, like DiddyDixie replacing ICs or Paper Mario replacing G&W, but those aren't very likely, and I'd say the three you listed there are the only three with relatively zero chance of returning. Pichu...maybe...but probably AND hopefully not.

Baby Mario+Baby Luigi team for da' win!

 

[MasterGary]

Are there realy only 2 characters with a spike?
And the new look for Samus looks realy cool.

I probably said this a good couple of times already, but I think that Pichu, Dr.Mario, Roy and Y.Link will leave simple because they are toooo cloney and not very important.

Falco and Ganon should return because they are actually important (Falco a lil less than Ganon) and they are the least cloney clones.

 

[Gannondorf77]

I personally think if 3 characters leave, it'll be Young Link, Pichu, and Roy.

why not Dr. Mario?
well... first off, I love him too much. second off, here's my legit reasoning that thou must bathe in:
Roy and Marth are from Fire Emblem. like just about every game in any given series, if you're good at one game, you'll be above average in others you play.
Link & Young Link: Zelda, OoT. heck, they're even in the same game. And, I learned that since I'm slightly above average in one ZXelda game, that I'm about average in another.
Pichu and Pikachu are in every game together--well, at least Pikachu is in every game that Pichu is in. doomed.
as for Mario and Dr. Mario: two COMPLETELY different series. I still wonder why Doc ahd the mushroom and not like a pill or a virus, similar to the way Wario has the 'W'.
it's the reason I can rock at the Dr. Mario series but suck worse than nubz at any Mario game I lay hands on.
@ no one in particular: don't try to lie to me. when it comes to just about any given seires, if you've played one you've played (or at least gotten the gist of) them all.
Mario (/) = Dr. Mario.

oh, and for SSBM< differences...
Doc's Smashes > Mario's.
Doc tends to give more damage
Mario is faster
Mario's fair is a meteor, while Docs pwns you while you're still on land
needless to say, the pills and the fireballs are different
Dr. Mario (at least with me or any given CPU) has a tendency to give out lots of easy damage in comparison to Mario. I used Mario and did the same moves with Doc, but to no avail.
as said in my sig, there's your sign.

Sorry to Clarify to you but Docter mario and Mario are still in the Mario series just different games. So You basically Contradicted yourself when you typed up that whole thing, which was a big waste of time. Just saying.

OH yeah something you missed is that doc is slower than mario, his cape is longer, his regular attacks are weaker, his throws do more damage.....

By the way all of those things you said can be justified for all of the other charecters that you said should leave. But i'm not going to say them because I already did.

But, Ganondorf Owns anyway so it don't matter.

yes I know I spelled my screen name wrong. Thank you to whoever told me.

 

[Gannondorf77]

Are there realy only 2 characters with a spike?
And the new look for Samus looks realy cool.

I probably said this a good couple of times already, but I think that Pichu, Dr.Mario, Roy and Y.Link will leave simple because they are toooo cloney and not very important.

Falco and Ganon should return because they are actually important (Falco a lil less than Ganon) and they are the least cloney clones.

Dude they are the most cloney clones! well falco at least. He has only about (if he's lucky) 6 differences. And there not even that big! And you still notice when you say something like that you have to think of the other charecters that are "clones" still have there own differences. But I do agree that Pichu should leave. It's not that he's not worth haveing there he's just annoying to me. I could care less if he is better or worse than Pikachu or totally different from Pikachu. I just find the little runt annoying.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Are there realy only 2 characters with a spike?

The only spikes in the game are:
1) Falco's dAir
2) Marth's dAir
3) Ganondorf's aerial dB
4) Captain Falcon's dAir (BUT ONLY if hit with CF's chest, if hit by his feet it will only be a meteor)

 

[MasterGary]

Dude they are the most cloney clones! well Falco at least. He has only about (if he's lucky) 6 differences. And there not even that big! And you still notice when you say something like that you have to think of the other charecters that are "clones" still have there own differences. .

Watch a pro Falco and a pro Fox and you will see all the diffrences you need. Until you have, stop talking please.

 

[rubiksfriend]

Marth

Due to general feelings, I believe Marth will return; however, Mr. Game&Watch, Mewtwo and Pichu seemed unpopular. I do not believe they will return.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

I have this feeling Mewtwo doesn't have that great of a chance returning either. However, I think if he does return, he will be buffed greatly to play well against the other characters.

It's funny... don't they notice in development how bad certain characters are? It's like no one who makes Smash games can play them well enough to tell.

 

[roy_owns]

^^^
For sure

 

[Gannondorf77]

have you noticed that no one likes jigglypuff either? well that's jsut me. But why don't we just keep the "clones" and drop charecters like ice climbers mewtwo jigglypuff and stuff like that.

 

[MasterGary]

I think they don't realy make the characters to be good, they just make a character with a moveset that will fit that character. While making a game you can't think up all the combo's and ways to use a character that the gamers will come up with.

@ganondorf77
There are a lot of people that like Jiggs, and there is realy no reason to drop G&W, Mewtwo or Jiggs.

 

[Bowserlick]

Dropped Character Predictions:

Pichu: a joke character and added to the game to pad the roster; wouldn't get in Melee if it wasn't for the clone issue)

Doc: Added to the game to fill the roster, wouldn't get in on his own merits)

Roy: an advertisement to a mediocre game from a business perspective; dropped)

Young Link: dropped; many people like Y. Link because of his speed because speed characters are more popular; But I feel the Zelda series have better reps (Midna, Skull Kid with Mask, Vaati, and even Tingle). I am not really feeling Windwaker Link.

Sheik: popular archetype, but part of a bad and unpopular mechanic (morphing, sounds good but hard to execute; plus people will always prefer one of the characters over the other). Replaced by Zero Suit Samus

Ice Climbers: the duo mechanic is fine, but I think it will be given to a more flavorful character (Diddy/Dixie or Olimar and Pikmin). Also hammer moveset can be saved and partially given to King DeDeDe if he is in.

G&W: a one shot character; funny but there could be a new funny, video game representative such as Wario (uses outrageous moves from Warioware which is a collection of minigames) or Mii (which can use moves from Mii titles as well as being customizable)

Falco: Ditched for a character with more variety and uniqueness such as Krystal or even Andross and maybe Wolf (only because Wolf takes the rival spot from Falco and has not been in a Smash game yet)

 

[Creo]

have you noticed that no one likes jigglypuff either? well that's jsut me. But why don't we just keep the "clones" and drop charecters like ice climbers mewtwo jigglypuff and stuff like that.

A lot of people like Jiggs for the best recovery and rest.

Dropped Character Predictions:

Pichu: a joke character and added to the game to pad the roster; wouldn't get in Melee if it wasn't for the clone issue)

Doc: Added to the game to fill the roster, wouldn't get in on his own merits)

Roy: an advertisement to a mediocre game from a business perspective; dropped)

Young Link: dropped; many people like Y. Link because of his speed because speed characters are more popular; But I feel the Zelda series have better reps (Midna, Skull Kid with Mask, Vaati, and even Tingle). I am not really feeling Windwaker Link.

Sheik: popular archetype, but part of a bad and unpopular mechanic (morphing, sounds good but hard to execute; plus people will always prefer one of the characters over the other). Replaced by Zero Suit Samus

Ice Climbers: the duo mechanic is fine, but I think it will be given to a more flavorful character (Diddy/Dixie or Olimar and Pikmin). Also hammer moveset can be saved and partially given to King DeDeDe if he is in.

G&W: a one shot character; funny but there could be a new funny, video game representative such as Wario (uses outrageous moves from Warioware which is a collection of minigames) or Mii (which can use moves from Mii titles as well as being customizable)

Falco: Ditched for a character with more variety and uniqueness such as Krystal or even Andross and maybe Wolf (only because Wolf takes the rival spot from Falco and has not been in a Smash game yet)

I agree with pretty much all I can see(might have overlooked but don't think so)especially the Tingle part. I am dying for Tingle to just make an entry in a stage or as a character.
I disagree with the Falco thing. I believe he will be in with Wolf and or Krystal.

 

[MasterGary]

Why can't they just add Wolf and Krystal without taking out Falco? Falco is a very popular character and he just need a new moveset.

 

[Chief Mendez]

Dude they are the most cloney clones! well falco at least. He has only about (if he's lucky) 6 differences. And there not even that big! And you still notice when you say something like that you have to think of the other charecters that are "clones" still have there own differences. But I do agree that Pichu should leave. It's not that he's not worth haveing there he's just annoying to me. I could care less if he is better or worse than Pikachu or totally different from Pikachu. I just find the little runt annoying.

Falco and Fox are the most diverse clone-source duo. After them it's C. Falcon and Ganondorf, then Pikachu and Pichu, then Roy and Marth, then Mario and Doc.

At least that's how I see it.

It's funny... don't they notice in development how bad certain characters are? It's like no one who makes Smash games can play them well enough to tell.

It's funny you shoud ask that.

Before I started attending these forums, I rather liked Mewtwo. At the time, I really didn't see many problems with him. Sure, his Dsmash wasn't as useful as others, and his A combo took a little longer than others, but he made up for it by being so evasive. I imagine this is how it works for most Smash players, but once you start to attend some tournaments (I've only gone to 1) and start actively trying to improve your game by using advanced techniques, you realize how poopy Mewtwo is compared to the others.

My point is, while Mewtwo might be bad when played on a serious level, he's not as bad as you guys make him out to be to the casual player. And really, Smash was never intended to be as serious as it's gotten, so I'm sure there'll be "Mewtwos" in Brawl as well.

Dropped Character Predictions:

Pichu: a joke character and added to the game to pad the roster; wouldn't get in Melee if it wasn't for the clone issue)

Doc: Added to the game to fill the roster, wouldn't get in on his own merits)

Roy: an advertisement to a mediocre game from a business perspective; dropped)

Young Link: dropped; many people like Y. Link because of his speed because speed characters are more popular; But I feel the Zelda series have better reps (Midna, Skull Kid with Mask, Vaati, and even Tingle). I am not really feeling Windwaker Link.

Sheik: popular archetype, but part of a bad and unpopular mechanic (morphing, sounds good but hard to execute; plus people will always prefer one of the characters over the other). Replaced by Zero Suit Samus

Ice Climbers: the duo mechanic is fine, but I think it will be given to a more flavorful character (Diddy/Dixie or Olimar and Pikmin). Also hammer moveset can be saved and partially given to King DeDeDe if he is in.

G&W: a one shot character; funny but there could be a new funny, video game representative such as Wario (uses outrageous moves from Warioware which is a collection of minigames) or Mii (which can use moves from Mii titles as well as being customizable)

Falco: Ditched for a character with more variety and uniqueness such as Krystal or even Andross and maybe Wolf (only because Wolf takes the rival spot from Falco and has not been in a Smash game yet)

Pichu: Yup, he's gone.

Doc: Ditto.

Roy: Ditto.

Y. Link: I'm a bit indifferent on this one. I'd love to see WW Link, but if it comes down to either him or Midna/Vaati/Tingle, I'd opt for the latter.

Sheik: Outta' here.

IC: Hopefully gone. I liked the moveset, but that "dual-character" thing didn't pan out quite right.

G&W: Make way for Takamaru/Mach Rider/Jumpman.

Falco: Only one I don't agree on. I'd rather Falco stay than Wolf or Krystal appear. Andross beats all of them, though.

Why can't they just add Wolf and Krystal without taking out Falco? Falco is a very popular character and he just need a new moveset.

Because 4 movesets (original or cloned) for such a relatively small franchise is a bit farfetched. If Metroid only gets 2-3, why should an inferior series like SF have 4?

Also, I don't think Krystal really deserves a spot. She's yet another sterotype created by Rare to "flesh out" a series unnecessarily.

 

[MasterGary]

But Kystal could have a realy cool moveset with her staff and Wolf is like the "evil" person of the series, and I don't think they should take out Falco because of his popularity.

And you can't realy compare something like the Metroid series with SF. Metroid just doesn't have much characters so that's why it's natural for them to not have that much spots for Brawl.

 

[Gannondorf77]

Falco and Fox are the most diverse clone-source duo. After them it's C. Falcon and Ganondorf, then Pikachu and Pichu, then Roy and Marth, then Mario and Doc.

At least that's how I see it.

It's funny you shoud ask that.

Before I started attending these forums, I rather liked Mewtwo. At the time, I really didn't see many problems with him. Sure, his Dsmash wasn't as useful as others, and his A combo took a little longer than others, but he made up for it by being so evasive. I imagine this is how it works for most Smash players, but once you start to attend some tournaments (I've only gone to 1) and start actively trying to improve your game by using advanced techniques, you realize how poopy Mewtwo is compared to the others.

My point is, while Mewtwo might be bad when played on a serious level, he's not as bad as you guys make him out to be to the casual player. And really, Smash was never intended to be as serious as it's gotten, so I'm sure there'll be "Mewtwos" in Brawl as well.

Pichu: Yup, he's gone.

Doc: Ditto.

Roy: Ditto.

Y. Link: I'm a bit indifferent on this one. I'd love to see WW Link, but if it comes down to either him or Midna/Vaati/Tingle, I'd opt for the latter.

Sheik: Outta' here.

IC: Hopefully gone. I liked the moveset, but that "dual-character" thing didn't pan out quite right.

G&W: Make way for Takamaru/Mach Rider/Jumpman.

Falco: Only one I don't agree on. I'd rather Falco stay than Wolf or Krystal appear. Andross beats all of them, though.

Because 4 movesets (original or cloned) for such a relatively small franchise is a bit farfetched. If Metroid only gets 2-3, why should an inferior series like SF have 4?

Also, I don't think Krystal really deserves a spot. She's yet another sterotype created by Rare to "flesh out" a series unnecessarily.

What's Kinda funny you guys say sheik should leave, or it's hard to do the transformation thing, my friend who lives in alaska was in a 50 person tourney and he got second with sheik. He lost to a marth player. But the even funnier thing is he dosen't know how to wavedash or any of the hardcore stuff but............... it's just funny to me.

 

[Stryks]

Ok so just because ur friend won 2nd plac eon a tourney sheik should stay? yeah that makes sense >.>

 

[MasterGary]

Just because you don't wavedash or use advanced tactics mean that your not good. It's just that it opens up more combo possibllities and those kinds of stuff. But it's not like you HAVE to use it to be good.

Stryks, I think he was trying to say that even though his friend doesn't use advanced tactics he is still good.

 

[Stryks]

Dude its sheik, u can have little skil lwith sheik and win matches, believe me I know that by experience...

anyway, look point is sheik is no longer important to the zelda series, and since surely all the zelda character will get their most recent look, that being TP, zelda will have the TP look, and I doubt TP zelda will transform into OoT shiek

 

[MasterGary]

To me Sheik is just the easiest character for anybody to play with. I'm not sure if I can call that cheap but she is just like Eddie from Tekken and Maxi from Soul Calibur.

 

[lanky_gunner]

Dude its sheik, u can have little skil lwith sheik and win matches, believe me I know that by experience...

anyway, look point is sheik is no longer important to the zelda series, and since surely all the zelda character will get their most recent look, that being TP, zelda will have the TP look, and I doubt TP zelda will transform into OoT shiek

who said recent looks had anything to do with it? it's smash! i mean mario hasn't used a cape since 1991, yet he uses it in melee and brawl!

i think sheik could stay. she let zelda have an interesting moveset and i don't think sakurai will get rid of it. i think they'll downgrade sheik so he/she isn't that powerful, but really skeik will stay in my opinion

 

[Stryks]

Ah but remember mario is the same person in EVERY game, u know very well that link/zelda/ganondorf arent, only in some but theyre mostly sequels to one game, in the rest they are reincanations and stuff, not being the same person...

TP takes place hundreds of years after OoT, I doubt TP zelda wil ltransform into her alter ego from hundreds of years ago...

 

[MasterGary]

The cape is only a move, he still has his most recent look, but then again the transform is only a move so this post didn't realy make sense.

 

[Chief Mendez]

But Kystal could have a realy cool moveset with her staff and Wolf is like the "evil" person of the series, and I don't think they should take out Falco because of his popularity.

No, Andross is like the "evil" person of the series. Wolf is just another rival, especially if you take Assault and Command into account. Sakurai won't be dwelling on SF64 forever, you know. In that respect, who'd you rather see as a rival, Falco or Wolf?

And you can't realy compare something like the Metroid series with SF. Metroid just doesn't have much characters so that's why it's natural for them to not have that much spots for Brawl

Then give that extra character to a franchise that deserves it more. Zelda had 4 reps in Melee, but people seem to think only 5 will be in Brawl? We go from 1, to 4, to...5? How does that work? I'd rather have Link, Zelda, Ganon, Midna, Tingle, and Vaati than 4 SF fighters.

And besides, we all know the only reason people want to see Krystal is because she's

Spoiler

furry

.

 

[MasterGary]

No, Andross is like the "evil" person of the series. Wolf is just another rival, especially if you take Assault and Command into account. Sakurai won't be dwelling on SF64 forever, you know. In that respect, who'd you rather see as a rival, Falco or Wolf?

Then give that extra character to a franchise that deserves it more. Zelda had 4 reps in Melee, but people seem to think only 5 will be in Brawl? We go from 1, to 4, to...5? How does that work? I'd rather have Link, Zelda, Ganon, Midna, Tingle, and Vaati than 4 SF fighters.

And besides, we all know the only reason people want to see Krystal is because she's

Spoiler

furry

.

Why can't Fox have 2 rivals? And the reason you would prefer seeing Midna, Tingle and Vaati is probably because your 1 of the millions of Zelda fan-boyz. I like the SF franchise to I think that they should have 4 spots.

 

[LukeFonFabre]

And besides, we all know the only reason people want to see Krystal is because she's

Spoiler

furry

.

<Supports Krystal and is 100% non-furry.

Though honestly, I'd rather Falco return first.

And I think there are 5 Zelda characters in melee, unless you're discounting Sheik.

 

[Chief Mendez]

^^^
Well there you go, it's 5 in Melee. But generally, people think there'll only be 5 in Brawl. That just isn't going to happen.

MasterGary: While it's true that I like the Zelda games more than the SF games, it's also true that Zelda's a larger, more popular franchise, is it not? That's how characters get sorted, so it stands to reason that before the SF character count doubles, the Zelda series will get more than one addition to it's total.

 

[Gannondorf77]

You wanna know what? I want them to give ganondorf a sword. Because it's there but he never uses it! Just give it to him!

 

[Stryks]

Falco deserves to stay, hes like the 2nd in command, and the side kick of Fox, while krystal is the female of the series and wolf the enemy/rival...

As I c it, mario series will get:
Mario, luigi, peach, bowser, geno, bowser jr or toad = 6

zelda will have:
Link, ww link, zelda, ganondorf, midna, zant or midna= 6

Those are nintendos biggest franchises, pokemon should be in there but I dont see pokemon gettin more than 4 characters... anyway i say 4 character would be fine in brawl, seeing how the top series are getting 6, SF is lower in fan base, but 3 wouldnt cut it this time around in brawl, I say 4 will do, having the hero, the sidekick, the love interest and the enemy would be sweet...

@ ganondorf77: TP ganondorf has the sword of sages, since hes a clone in melee, and will probably have the TP look, the sword will declone him AND have the most recent look...

 

[LukeFonFabre]

It depends, I would've thought all the main franchises (basically ever franchise in melee excluding Ice Climbers and G&W) would get at least 1 character addition. Which franchises get a secondary addition is different though.

This is of course factoring any character removals.

 

[MasterGary]

^^^
Well there you go, it's 5 in Melee. But generally, people think there'll only be 5 in Brawl. That just isn't going to happen.

MasterGary: While it's true that I like the Zelda games more than the SF games, it's also true that Zelda's a larger, more popular franchise, is it not? That's how characters get sorted, so it stands to reason that before the SF character count doubles, the Zelda series will get more than one addition to it's total.

But then a few years from now when it's time for a new SSB people will be saying that characters like Midna only appeared in 1 game and that they don't deserve to be in another game. And from what I understand you are basically saying because they are Nintendo's top series, just stuff Brawl with a bunch of unimportant characters from those series. That doesn't seem like such a good plan to me.

 

[Chief Mendez]

You wanna know what? I want them to give ganondorf a sword. Because it's there but he never uses it! Just give it to him!

He needs his trident more. It's a much cooler weapon than a sword anyways, not to mention the Sage's Sword doesn NOT fit with his TP model (or any of his models).

Mario, luigi, peach, bowser, geno, bowser jr or toad = 6

zelda will have:
Link, ww link, zelda, ganondorf, midna, zant or midna= 6

Wait, why's Midna there twice?

Anyway, I don't quite agree with your lists, but 6 would be fine for both of them. However, the only way 4 SF characters'd be just would be if Dark Samus and Ridley are both included, which would top the Metroid series out at 4.

But then a few years from now when it's time for a new SSB people will be saying that characters like Midna only appeared in 1 game and that they don't deserve to be in another game. And from what I understand you are basically saying because they are Nintendo's top series, just stuff Brawl with a bunch of unimportant characters from those series. That doesn't seem like such a good plan to me.

Not at all. The Zelda games just have that many worthwhile characters. My Zelda thread has at least 10 nominees listed, and I know of at least one person on just these boards who suppports at least one of them.

But in SF, the choices are a bit more limited. But it's not just that, but rather that the more impactful, higher-regarded franchises (Mario, Zelda, Pokemon) will take priority when it comes to "how many characters can we get into this game?"

 

[Stryks]

I believe metroid would have that number of characters, I mean 3 wouldnt cut it for me, even if ridleys is the next guy revealed, I say dark samus should join the fun, and boy would I likw a hunter in brawl, but 5 is kind of a stretch, and I hardly see it happen, but 4 should be a minimum of metroid characters IMO...

 

[MasterGary]

We already have 2 and Ridley is practically guranteed since his music is in it, and he is like 1 of the main enemies. We just have to hope for Dark Samus

 

[Frigid_Aztec]

I think that a good idea would be to take out Doc and add Geno, take out YL and add Skull Kid or Vaati, and take out Pichu for one of the newer pokemon.

I also hope that the Metroid series get mre reps, Ridley mainly.

 

[MasterGary]

I think that a good idea would be to take out Doc and add Geno, take out YL and add Skull Kid or Vaati, and take out Pichu for one of the newer pokemon.

I also hope that the Metroid series get mre reps, Ridley mainly.

This could be pretty likely but I don't know who Geno or Vaati are.