Official SWF Tier List v8

[SoulPech]

Number 37th on the tier list. Puff goes even with him.

 

[Aidebit]

Number 37th on the tier list. Puff goes even with him.

Fox is even worse.

 

[pidgezero_one]

Hey guys I heard Flaoc was a good character?

 

[philbobjoe]

Flaoc is the third best character.

 

[Sunnysunny]

Flaoc shoot loserz two fast.

 

[FourStar]

Flaoc has terrible recovery too

 

[Sunnysunny]

Flaoc cuntroll stage tho.
Nvr full off that much.

 

[pidgezero_one]

Don't you Flaoc me.

 

[FourStar]

Flaoc slow but strong

 

[DMG]

Hey guys I heard we were talki-

brarrbbrarhuehuheueh

FLACO FLUKO FLALO

*cough* Call him Falco or die *cough*

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Hey guys I heard we were talki-

brarrbbrarhuehuheueh

FLACO FLUKO FLALO

*cough* Call him Falco or die *cough*

You wouldn't survive long in Toronto

 

[Shaya]

Commonwealth countries.

Cheesy comedy streak for 639 years 28 days and 30 minutes. What the **** happened June 13th in the 14th century? who knows.

Hopefully with the power of DMG though, threadquality++ on a loop for at least a few weeks.

 

[pidgezero_one]

Hey guys I heard we were talki-

brarrbbrarhuehuheueh

FLACO FLUKO FLALO

*cough* Call him Falco or die *cough*

That's not how you spell Flaoc

 

[Luco]

I love how the MU chart came out and we all just abandoned this thread. XD

 

[FourStar]

I love how the MU chart came out and we all just abandoned this thread. XD

well this thread has kinda generated nothing where as the matchup chart has good discussion going on.
for the most part....

 

[Z'zgashi]

Its because this thread has 69 pages, we need to preserve that.

 

[Diddy Kong]

There are no Diddy Kongs.

Where can I fill in an official complaint?

 

[Sinister Slush]

On the 08 Diddy Kong Gravestone, it might've been chipped away over the past 5 years since new Diddy mains most likely did it cause they believed a piece of the gravestone would provide luck, but it still stands tall.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I really don't get why so few people use Diddy. He's extremely technical, hard to learn but with extreme nice rewards for doing so. He's got great recovery, awesome gimp options, good speed, good damage output, he basically got all the advantages. And unlike say, MetaKnight, his matchups are quite balanced.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

His recovery isn't great and his damage output is great only in certain situations. What makes Diddy a good character is his powerful shield game with his sturdy shield and his good OoS options. In a game where shields are of such central importance that makes him a solid choice in any matchup. On the other hand, Diddy never gives you an advantage against any good character except Pikachu because you don't beat opponents with good defensive game alone - his approach options are pretty average and nullify a lot of his potential advantages.

 

[Player-1]

I really don't get why so few people use Diddy. He's extremely technical, hard to learn but with extreme nice rewards for doing so. He's got great recovery, awesome gimp options, good speed, good damage output, he basically got all the advantages. And unlike say, MetaKnight, his matchups are quite balanced.

sorry diddy you're bad

 

[Ghostbone]

his approach options are pretty average

Against most characters (not like, air camping MK/Pit/Jigglypuff) Diddy has the best approach options in the game....

 

[Z'zgashi]

Wait, someone said Diddy has bad approach options? Lol, Diddy has great approach options, plus the ability to punish almost anything from almost full stage with a glide toss. I mean, hes not the BEST at approaching, but hes definitely not bad and Id say hes up there as one of the better characters at doing so.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Diddy has better approach options than 90%+ of the characters in this game, lol

The thing about approaching in Brawl is that very few characters are even reasonably good at it. Most high tier characters have a good approach or two, but their options in that area aren't exactly robust, only functional. "Approaching" in brawl doesn't really happen, it's more like pokes and counterpokes until someone ****s up. Diddy can actually like, walk up to you and hit you in more than one or two ways, as can MK.

I think people break down matches in Brawl kind of... wrong. Like, it isn't two dudes trying to figure out how to dash at each other, it's more like two dudes spacing attacks trying to cut off escape routes with options.

If you're being zoned so badly that you can't compete with your own zoning and pokes then you're probably just a bad character, but that's not the same as having "bad approaches."

 

[Tesh]

Approaching in Brawl is just slowly moving your camping fortress across the stage, brick by brick , until the other guy lets you get too close.

 

[infiniteV115]

Approaching in Brawl is just slowly moving your camping fortress across the stage, brick by brick , until the other guy lets you get too close.

No wonder Bowser is so bad.

 

[pidgezero_one]

Hey everybody I got a new phone that can load my obnoxious 40ppp (heh, ppp) settings so I can post here more often. Anyway I think after a Fox won EVO we should move him up higher in the tier list. It's pretty cool how he doesn't get grabbed by ICs.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy has great approach options with dash attack, F Air and DACUS. Not even speaking about bananas.

Also, a Fox has won EVO? That's awesome

 

[Seagull Joe]

Diddy has great approach options with dash attack, F Air and DACUS. Not even speaking about bananas.

Also, a Fox has won EVO? That's awesome

Who are you really?

 

[Aidebit]

This thread makes better jokes than discussions, honestly.

 

[pidgezero_one]

You're welcome.

 

[Espy Rose]

I heavily disagree.

 

[philbobjoe]

Well nobody asked you.

 

[fkacyan]

I heavily disagree.

Of course you do, you're one of the jokes.

 

[Espy Rose]

I am?!

It's an honor then.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Aerial banana throws are a great approach

 

[pidgezero_one]

Espy isn't the real villain around here. That title goes to SFP

 

[Espy Rose]

Does that make me an anti-hero?

 

[Luco]

Does that make me an anti-hero?

Nah just a rival.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Espy isn't the real villain around here. That title goes to SFP

flaoc y