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I hope that's not implemented into the official list...that would take too much time / be too much of a hassle in tourneys and probably wouldn't be done that much.
Exactly, so that's not a "final" list...my list that I posted is the final one, after they've realized how broken some of the stages are.
Personally, I like that a lot. It takes out a random factor.
How often is the situation you describe going to happen? In theory, a coin flip will have a 50/50 chance of either player getting to choose, so on average they will get an equal amount of chances. I realize you probably think it's unreliable to use averages because there's a chance one player will be favored, but there is an equal chance the other player will be favored as well. I'm also pretty sure that part of the point of it is that you can strike out stages that either benefit your opponent or put you at a disadvantage.
The houses are very close to the sides of the stage, so if you just stand there behind them you can't attack your opponent, and you can't grab someone that's directly above you since you can't grab upwards. Plus if you have to react to a car coming by, whatever you do will leave you vulnerable to something the opponent can do.
That's reason to make it counterpick, as some characters can make use of them (even if they are just there for 20 seconds or so).
Forgive me when I say I have a hard time believing the SBR would add a rule purely because they can.
Xiivi isn't even part of the SBR, so he doesn't even know what the stage list is. In other words, this list isn't confirmed, and I highly doubt it will (I at least hope it won't). He even said, that's what he "expects." And even with people like Ankoku in the SBR...one or two people do not make up majority vote.
This list summarizes my thoughts exactly! This is the most likely final list.
This subject has come up in Fire Emblem debates all the time because the characters have growth rates for each level they gain rather than gaining stats at a fixed rate. Yes, a character might gain a lot of stats in a few levels, but they might also gain little to none. Likewise, one person might have the chance of striking out 3 stages in a row, but the opponent could easily get the same, so it all evens out. It doesn't favor any single person over another, thus, on average it is even.
Unless I am mistaken, I believe there is one coin toss, and that decides who gets to strike out a stage first, and then it is the other person's turn and so on and so forth.
yes,but its just a pretty drawn out game of chance,i personally dont like it either,id rather just press the start button and get a 1/5 chance of getting a good stage rather than 1/16 chance of striking out the ones i dont want
I find it highly amusing that I write 3 paragraphs, then someone comes by with a single sentance that removes the need for my post... I guess I was thinking so hard I missed out on the obvious. XP
And what's the issue with the current system that this solves, again?
I think the idea is that it gets rid of the stages that give you the greatest disadvantage and/or give your opponent the greatest advantage.
In that case, let's preemptively remove Lylat, because everybody I know will strike that one first.
Coin tossing doesn't prevent this idea because it allows you to strike out stages manually, making it almost like a counterpick, except more like a counter-counterpick. Hard to explain, but you get my idea; it's not random, biased humans are choosing the stage.
Tournaments are made to determine who is the best, and that is most easily done on the most neutral stage possible.
The system described is actually eliminating disadvantages, not advantages. There's no guarantee the stage that is ended at is most neutral for both characters.
If that's the case, then why wouldn't one of the players have eliminated it beforehand? Ideally you'll want to take out the ones that give your opponent a slight advantage or your character a slight disadvantage, so assuming both players do that, the only remaining stage would be the most neutral between the two.
Arguably you should only know your own character going into the ban phase, but whatever.
It was banned a long time ago...did you even read the list?
Pretty much, yeah.
The list was from the SBR, was it?
As far as I understand it, you know who your opponent is. I might be wrong, but I'm 90% sure you know.
Stage Striking only applies for the first of three, replacing 'Random'. After the starting round, counterpicks is as per usual.
WHAT?! Ack, apparently I can't leave for 5 minutes without having a good counter-pick stage shoved alongside 75m and WarioWare, Inc.
Oh, really?
It worked to serve as an example, and I agknowledged in my own post that it wouldn't be a neutral.
