Before a bit of this discussion continues, I must ask: What are some mother things (asides from characters) that you would like to see in the next smash game?
From Earthbound: More music, Especially the final boss theme. I'd also like to see a new stage, like The Devil's Machine, or Winters (Not many snowy stages asides from Ice Climber's ones) But If we just got one returning: I'd rather see fourside. Fourside could have a moonside alt similar to Mushroomy Kingdom, and same with Onett and threed.
From Mother 3: More music...That isn't porky's theme twice. For a new stage, Ohshoe Castle, Saturn Valley (Could work for repping both) Or Thunder Tower...If they're however to make a stage return, just bring back New Pork City, which is fine by me. Oh and a duster AT Would be cool...And more trophies would be nice.
Back to this now:
This is true, but it's not aggregate by any means. Like you said, it is incomplete, so they actual results may be skewed.
May be, as we said, It's knowledge we know of. Maybe sakurai found the rest of the mentions uninteresting. Who knows? We'll probably get a more concrete answer which will support this later when it's actually announced...Or we may never know.
No. I was wondering why you jumped topics to bosses. I was also going to mention Jeff here, but I left that towards the end.
I jumped onto them because usually some people go "WAIT, WHY WAS PORKY CHOSEN FOR A BOSS INSTEAD OF CLAUS" Or "WAIT, WHY IS JEFF AN AT THEN INSTEAD OF CLAUS" Because bosses generally seem to be characters that sakurai wanted to make in the game in some form, but weren't as suitable for PC's.
Since his model was from Melee, it would not make Jeff's model easier. The model had to be made from scratch. Jeff being an assist is important.
Jeff - You already have the melee model (and clay models)
Claus - You would have to start on making a 3d render since there's not even any official one.
That's where I'm getting at, unless you're mentioning something else. If any other questions on why jeff is an AT instead of claus, It's because M3 already had enough rep in Brawl. (All new music being M3, M3 gets a new stage, M3 Gets a new character, M3 Type franklyn badge, Porky's style from M3...Yeah, I got my point across)
Of course, It CAN Support Jeff in that sense still, and porky being a boss. It's relevant; But Is it that relevant to decide who becomes the 3rd mother PC? Not quite.
Yes, but there are numerous characters that can have movesets. Sakurai has shown he can make a good moveset for any character. It is doubtful he'd chose Masked Man because he has a good template.
Hello Ridley/Sukapon. Of course, It wouldn't only be for that, but If It came down to the two for sakurai, It'd probably go by that seeing with past results (Which is a big "If")
One thing to remember is that Mother 3 had a more fleshed out story, so most of the characters in that game will seem like they are more important. I'm not going to argue who is more relevant to the story.
Basically, they both are, but claus just appears earlier instead of not having any clue who in the world porky is until the last chapter - But yes, the story is more fleshed out compared to the other mother games.
I'll go back and look at Starman. I made a thread for a Smash 4 poll and there were a lot of Mother suggestions (which was to be expected).
Well, yeah. I've lurked there a bit and I can tell it gets suggested quite a lot. Next thing after that is ninten...Or a random party member.
Well, it's not that your entire argument is flawed. These were just little things I decided to point out. I agree with you that Claus would be more likely to turn into a playable character.
It's fine. Brings up an interesting discussion since there's barely been any mother discussion in this thread as I've seen. However, IF Jeff or Porky showed up as a PC, I honestly wouldn't mind. This series is one of the more debateable hierarchy's.
This is kinda messed up. Mewtwo will most likely come back, yes. But he won't be competing with a 5th Gen Pokemon. The 5th Gen is pretty much a lock. Mewtwo will get competition from Lucario. Which he will win easily.
If Pokemon has six characters, then Lucario will likely return as well. But if Pokemon only gets five characters, you can kiss Lucario's furry blue butt good-bye.
Chances are that pokemon won't get six reps, because not only would mario at least have to, but because of PT, which would make pokemon have EIGHT Movesets.
If the series gets a newcomer, It'll be a 5th gen pokemon, and mewtwo will probably replace lucario...So either way we're going to get a bunch of people bawing. (Unless the other shows up as DLC Or so)
...Or sakurai may not even give pokemon a new rep and just replace lucario with a 5th (Or whatever gen it is by then) Rep.
Geno should not get in. AT ALL. He's a character who appeared in two Mario spin-offs, one of which was a mere cameo. He's got a very vocal, dedicated fanbase, but he's unknown to most people. I don't care if there are 60,000 videos on YouTube supporting Geno. I'm willing to bet that Sakurai does not use Youtube as a basis for making decisions.
However, Sakurai and devs has noticed the puppet for sure (Tied for first with King Dedede on the part of the mentions list that was shown publicly) And may have possibly had a song that was cut back (forest maze, key: may) And you already got your core four, and wario/yoshi.
There could easily be him and an actual square enix rep. The thing about the four that all have possible chances is that they're all fishy. Geno has liscensing stuff, Paper Mario's another variation of mario despite being able to be unique, Bowser Jr has had no mentions of interest from sakurai, and Toad is already part of Peach's moveset, thus may be viewed as a "lolno" from him.
But we can all agree anything outside of that is rather slim. (And If you want to debate with this a ton, say hi to fatmanonice)