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Yet apparently it did, and got enough for sakurai to make five mentions off of it. I know for sure that Geno's support doesn't rival sonic's, but It's pretty big.
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" to "I Love Geno" to "I'm thinking about throwing Geno's song in there."
I can't punch people over the internet, but this doesn't bother me anyway since this seems to be a habit most people have unintentionally.
There's no evidence that points towards any particular combination of those three characters. It's really completely up in the air at this point, no matter how you look at it. I want to believe we'll keep Lucario and get Mewtwo back, maybe get a new guy. I'd like to think the signs we've seen so far point to that, I really would, but believing anything conclusively right now isn't a good idea.
Hmm, well, It is a subseries/spin-off/potato, but It's by far more developed in plot like the platformers, rather than being brain-dead, like *Insert party/golf club/kart/racket/something else here*@thethirdkoopa
Definition of spin-off (In this context) - any product that is an adaption, outgrowth, or development of another similar product: The paperback is a spin-off from the large hardcover encyclopedia.
Mario RPGs are spin-offs of Mario platformers. You might not categorize them as such, but that's what they are.
What exactly, did these mentions say? That might alter my opinion slightly. When you say mention, that could mean anything from "I hate Geno!!
I just figure any of those three could be excluded, basically. Even the new guy, should the focus suddenly change to retaining the old rather than bringing in the new.
NOTE: Importance for Smash is going to be judged by the fans, NOT the creators. Even then, you just use this as an excuse. There are very little interviews about F-Zero.
You, again, compare series. The demand for F-Zero characters is different then that of Kirby as the fans and it's character hierarchy are different. Kirby focuses on three characters most of the time. F-Zero has a heck of a lot of them. And yes, I know F-Zero fans think Jody can be a good character. She, like Black Shadow, has broken into the franchise well from the original. She has had a trophy in both games. She is an important character in the anime and the games.
WHAT!? Didn't Toise JUST explain this. Did you some how miss the huge post that gave legitimate reasons why Jody is an important character and plays a big role. She is the Galactic Federation's racer. She's the top in that regard. Even if she's below other characters, how is she not important. Do you even know what the word means?
Why this is here I don't know.
This is one thing I do agree with you on.[/quote]Also I've never fully thought out a ideal roster because I just never bothered with it/I hate putting in slots like "next FE-lord/5th Gen pokymanz" and thus generally think of ideas that use things in the now, rather than things for the future.
I dunno about Tabuu... he isn't all that popular, and Master Hand or maybe even Sandbag would be more recognizable.
That said, I'm doubtful of Smash obtaining its own character.
This is the kind of stuff I wanna see from you guys.
My thoughts on AT were that a lot of them were characters that people wanted, but couldn't make it for Brawl. Since relevance is all up to the players, I suspect that people will want those AT characters. Saki and Waluigi's pages suggest that a lot of people wanted them. Also, to fans outside the series, they will see the ATs are characters who the next most important. It's the same way people say Roy as second only to Marth, even if that is not how it works in the series.
Unhappy? I would think they would be elated if such a thing happened (which probably won't, but still). You think of it as being overfed, I see it as dessert. Just a minor gripe of mine, so ignore this.
If that's the case, can you explain why Pichu was included in Melee?
Many people also genuinely like Bowser Jr., perhaps more so than Waluigi. You mentioned characters who are added must be important, yet listed Waluigi instead of Jr. I dunno about that.
I don't think people have the see them as important off-the-bat for them to be included. They do have their fair share of importance, even if people don't see it immediately. Again, minor gripe of mine. (I support them, so yeah).
Jeff > Claus specifically bothers me. You mentioned before in a different post how you have a thing for Jeff, and I don't know whether or not that played a part in you deciding Jeff > Claus. From what I'm seeing here and elsewhere, it's always Claus [Masked Man] > Jeff.
Yes, it's logical that those would be the characters added, but silly to think Kat & Ana outshines Mona and Jimmy T. Maybe you think so because they were ATs in SSBB, but I personally don't see it that way.
I've been thinking about this last night. Thought it was silly at first, but then, I guess you can say a light bulb lit in my head, so to speak.
People are annoyed by Bowser Jr. Most people see him as an annoyance that is just there. Save for a few younger Mario fans (who don't know about the Koppa Kids and started when he was around), most people dislike him. This is why New Super Mario Bros. Wii is going to use the Koppa Kids despite the DS game using Bowser Jr.
What?
The reason I think we'll see more and more AT characters in Smash is more then a point or two.
The Mario series is the hardest to define because it is so broad. There is no way to know what Sakurai would do with it.
I guess you could call these counter arguments, but I'll try to explain the concerns.
The reason is that people would see the addition as unimportaint and be one that could have been filled by a better character. Basically, if they add Knuckle Joe without anything interesting, people will either not care at all (which is bad in entertainment) or they will feel cheated. Note how Smash almost always goes for the most important characters. If they ever don't, they will cover it up by being a revolutionary character. So Knuckle Joe would make people unhappy at a "lame" addition, but if he may be merged with other helpers for a new character, then people would love it.
(for the viewers at home, here is the quote he is talking about Characters who are added must be important. Bill from Star Fox may be cool, but he isn't the important is he?)
It's not that the character is important, but that the character is relevant. Geno is less important then other characters, but the player still finds the character important.
I assume your talking about the Babies? If so, remember that the goal is to add characters people want to play as. If players don't find them important (which is character relevancy), then they will not like the addition.
Fans of Mother/Earthbound, who know more about the series, would put Masked Man first. Everyone else would but Jeff first because
*Marks*Another minor gripe. I'll say it now that Ninten (re-designed, of course) will be the final Mother character. Mark this post.
Kat and Ana outshine them because they are fan favorites. Kat and Ana moved up in the series because fans liked them (I mentioned this in the post). I beleive they are ATs because people liked them.
The only problem with bosses is they are huge. Syrup isn't. She really needs a trophy at least. She could make a cool AT too.
Glad I made an impact
I may be wrong here, but I thought Waluigi was hated more than Bowser Jr. especially when you take into account Waluigi's origins.
There is an overexaggeration. If ATs were soley characters people want to play as, we wouldn't have gotten ones like Nintendog and the Metroid. Nonetheless, you do raise a point, but I consider Waluigi to be Tingle of sorts. He's not despised outside of Japan, but it seems he has more haters than fans, unlike Krystal who has as many fans as haters.
I agree with this for the most part.
While the voices of Smash players matters, the fans of the original series have to have higher priority. If I had to decide on which MOTHER character to add, I'd ask the MOTHER fans because they know the characters better than anyone else.
We can only base this one precedent: Pichu who really just sucked. At least Dan Hibiki didn't hurt himself while attacking aside from his Otoko Michi. Nothing's wrong with making the joke character bottom tier, but that character should still be competitively viable.
I think you're using the word "important" to loosely. Geno is Ensemble Darkhorse which is a popular character depspite having an overall minor role.
Just because Smash made people aware of MOTHER doesn't mean that people will have an interest in it. As I said earlier, you can't ask people who don't know anything about MOTHER to put input in for what MOTHER character to put in.
Fixed. The Nintendo fanbase is increasingly casual. Most Mario/Smash fans are kids who either don't know the Koopalings or view them as very obscure characters. Plus, Sakurai does not conduct hate polls. There's no *Vote for the character you don't wat to see in Smash!* site. (Unless someone amkes one just to spite me)
Willing to bet that BJ will be the boss that appears at the mid-point of every world.
Make Your Move 6. Go there.
