[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!

[HK Donut of the Blue Fire]

its all mudkipz, all the time!.....yeah mudkipz....yeah...

OMG MUDKIPS IN SMAHS!??!

 

[superman969]

no...no he doesnt...he was a one time shot and F***ed it up! he shouldnt return i havent even played MGS4 but i bet you he didnt return in that. who ever put him in smash should be "smashed" with an ore and then tied to a chair while we interrogate him with mudkipz! hes out of place he has no cartoon like charm like everyone else, and he uses weapons based on real weapons (or actual real weapons im no specialist!).

hey super man? get real your more like a super fanboy! i can crush any snake any day even while sleeping

OH SNAP!

I lol'd at Snake NOT being in MGS4.

I'm thinking he's just trolling now...


PS: I'm a debater now, yay for me! *claps*

 

[HK Donut of the Blue Fire]

i actually quite like the idea of trolling, dunno what it means but it makes me think of an ugly creature camped out under the bridge in your local park jumping out and growling at people.

 

[superman969]

it's when people posts completely irrelevant and pointless posts that contribute nothing at all to the thread and focus solely on flaming someone without backing it up.

Trolls usually are steriotyped as being idiots who think they're really smart and above everyone else when actually they know almost nothing of the game and could be easily beaten by a 9 year old (they usually aren't much older either).

Anyways, I'm a bit p!ssed off because I just saw the terrible Netherland's defense get destroyed by the Russians...

Back on topic: In SSBG, Snake SHOULD stay in because he has a completely unique moveset and is an icon of the gaming industry. Albeit, he should be nerfed, a lot, but there's no reason for him to be taken out. The people that were cut from Brawl were all clones, that had little to no variation in moveset, weight, or speed. Oh, and Ganon should have a sword. Or at least a unique moveset.

 

[Hypa-Link]

Knuckles
Tails or Shadow
At least two more Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn characters, and not a swordsman, something like an axe wielder, archer, Mage, etc.


Oh and make the legendary Pokemon SEEM freakin Legendary.

They are so **** rare to get, and when they come they are almost on the same level as a Gulpin or a Starmie or something.

 

[Chief Mendez]

Oh and make the legendary Pokemon SEEM freakin Legendary.

They are so **** rare to get, and when they come they are almost on the same level as a Gulpin or a Starmie or something.

Not Kyogre. Best Pokemon in the game right there.

I sort of agree with you. What the hell happened to Suicune? And Groundon's not much use anywhere but Battlefield...

Anyways, you mentioned other Sonic characters, which isn't anything new, but it did randomly make me think of something: what if the next Smash Bros. shifted the idea of "bringing together Nintendo's best in 4-player fighing action" to "bringing together Gaming's best in 4-player fighting action"? Think about it: instead of a roster that's 95% Nintendo, we'd have one that's maybe 25% Nintendo.

Of course, the big issue with that plan is that a good deal of Brawl's cast might get cut, and I don't think Sakurai'd beokay with that...but if he's not making the next game, who cares?

The great thing about this idea is that it'd bring everyone together, not just Nintendo fanboys. Imagine a game where (almost) every third-party character people have mentioned on these boards is together...

It'd certainly be a change of pace, wouldn't it?

Oh, and to the guy who said "we should just call it Smash Bros. 4", they wouldn't, since technically there hasn't been a "Smash Bros. 2" yet. I haven't ever seen or heard someone refer to Melee as Smash 2, or Brawl as Smash Bros. 3...well, it's possible, but it goes against all taxonomical precedents in the gaming realm.

On that subject, I really like the sound of Super Smash Bros. Royale.

 

[Hypa-Link]

Kyogre and Deoxsis seem to be the only beastly ones. And even they should be more beastly. They are the god's of the legendaries. Suicune is complete crap, entei is meh. Ho-ho is dope but I think I've only seen him once...Weird. Lugia is meh as well.

25% Nintendo? That'd be sorta cool, but won't happen. lol



Screw Smash Bros. Royale.













Super Smash Bros. Mayhem

*Copyrights*

 

[Chief Mendez]

25% Nintendo? That'd be sorta cool, but won't happen. lol

Well, what I'm saying is that...I mean, how many times do you want to buy the same game, and play as the same characters, with 10-15 new ones?

The Nintendo character'd be cut down to the big players: Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Pokemon, and their ilk. For smaller series like Mother and Fire Emblem, we'd probably only get one rep. So maybe somewhere around 15 or 20 Nintendo characters. The upside to this is that we'd have two or three Metal Gear fighters, Sonic's little sidekicks, Square-Enix, Capcom, Namco, (other than Sonic) SEGA, and Konami characters in the game.

Just...think of the marketing. And to be perfectly honest, would you really rather play as R.O.B. than Akuma?

 

[Hypa-Link]

lol, no, but.

I'ma big Nintendo fan.

And if this happened it wouldn't be a wii exclusive.

Which wouldn't be good for Nintendo.

Unless you are saying cut some characters and add lotsa 3rd party ones.

Cutting is never good tho. I know people that want a Marvel vs. capcom type roster, and that won't happen with characters being cut.

Also, most 3rd parties would be stingy and ask for too much just to include them in the game.

Nintendo and Sakura have a great relationship with Sega and the Metal gear creator.

Which is why snake and Sonic are there.

Everyone else wouldn't be worth it, or would be too difficult to get.

 

[ducky285]

Cutting is never good tho. I know people that want a Marvel vs. capcom type roster, and that won't happen with characters being cut.

MvC2's roster size is justified because you HAVE to pick three characters, and barring non-tourney console play, each character has to be different. Same goes for CvS2, though you can play as one character or two if you really wanted (which isn't recommended anyway).

 

[Chief Mendez]

lol, no, but.

I'ma big Nintendo fan.

And if this happened it wouldn't be a wii exclusive.

Which wouldn't be good for Nintendo.

Unless you are saying cut some characters and add lotsa 3rd party ones.

Cutting is never good tho. I know people that want a Marvel vs. capcom type roster, and that won't happen with characters being cut.

Also, most 3rd parties would be stingy and ask for too much just to include them in the game.

Nintendo and Sakura have a great relationship with Sega and the Metal gear creator.

Which is why snake and Sonic are there.

Everyone else wouldn't be worth it, or would be too difficult to get.

I'm saying exactly that: cut characters and add lots of 3rd party characters.

And truthfully, we don't know how the third-parties would work out. Some of them might let their characters be used completely gratis--there's no such thing as bad publicity, after all. And we don't know how Sonic got in. SEGA might have been paid to allow it to happen, but one thing's for sure: he was only in there from the ridiculous fan demand.

And you didn't seriously just tell me that Viewtiful Joe isn't worth any amount of effort. You did not, sir.

Anyway, it's just an idea. It'd definitely mix things up, right? At least gimme that. And you'd totally still buy it.

 

[Hypa-Link]

Yea but Nintendo has enough ill characters to make this roster godly. They can easily eclipse Capcom and Marvel combined.

Hell I can think up like 15 characters just from Fire Emblem path of Radiance that would be unique, dope, and cool lookin.

 

[RoyalBlood]

Things I'd want:

Characters:

-Ilyana (Fire Emblem)
-Nephenee (Fire Emblem)
-Dante (Devil May Cry)
-Jill Valentine (Resident Evil)
- Rebbeca Chambers ( Resident Evil)
-Leon (Resident Evil)
-Roy (Fire Emblem)
-Gardevoir (Pokemon)
-Carrie Fernandez (Castlevania)
-Micaiah (Fire Emblem)
-Cornell ( Castlevania)
-Charlotte Aulin ( Castlevania)
-Dr. Stewart (F-Zero)
-Savyna ( Baten Kaitos)
-Sagi ( Baten Kaitos)
-Raine ( Tales of Symphonia)
-Tear ( Tales of the Abyss)
- Meredy ( Tales of Eternia)
- Stella and Loretta (Castlevania) similar to Zelda and Shiek or The Ice Climbers
-Emil ( TOS : DoTNW)
-Rise ( Persona 4 )
-Ashley ( Wario Ware)
-Mona ( Wario Ware)
-Young Cricket ( Wario Ware)
-Lyn ( Fire Emblem)

Two Final Smashes

Dual Crushes ( A.K.A. Dual FS)

That two characters could perform a powerful Final Smash Like Zelda casting Holy Light while Ilyana Shocks the enemies with lightning or something like that, what i mean is like combining two characters to form a FS with a Cut In like Castlevania Portrait of Ruin or The Tales of Series.

A Adventure-RPG mode wich features voice acting and animated cutscenes.

Also in adventure mode obtainable costumes for your characters wich can be used later on like, swimsuit costume for Zelda or formal suit for Ike =).

Up to 6 characters in a fight lol.

And that's all =P .

 

[Hypa-Link]

I'm saying exactly that: cut characters and add lots of 3rd party characters.

And truthfully, we don't know how the third-parties would work out. Some of them might let their characters be used completely gratis--there's no such thing as bad publicity, after all. And we don't know how Sonic got in. SEGA might have been paid to allow it to happen, but one thing's for sure: he was only in there from the ridiculous fan demand.

And you didn't seriously just tell me that Viewtiful Joe isn't worth any amount of effort. You did not, sir.

Anyway, it's just an idea. It'd definitely mix things up, right? At least gimme that. And you'd totally still buy it.

Well Viewtiful Joe is kinda "2nd party" so that'd be easy. lol

Also Sega has a great relationship with Nintendo.

That's why Sonic heroes came on Gamecube 2 weeks before it did on PS2/Xbox, it got SADX and 2Battle exclusive, it got Mega Collection as an exclusive, and it has all those Sonic/Sega titles on the virtual console. Plus they have a long history together, and I remember Sega stating the Nintendo's the only one left that's like them.

Also if it was the next gen system, they could keep every character and still try and add the 3rd parties.

But it's still Nintendo's World

 

[Kiki52]

Snake can stay as long as they nerf him a ton, but I suggest that they add another 3rd or 2nd party character that looks all realistic human type character like him so Snake won't be alone. Maybe add Alexandra Roivas or something, I do know that the creator of Eternal Darkness did request Sakurai to put her in Brawl.

That, or we can add Master Chief if Microsoft buys Nintendo

 

[Hypa-Link]

Captain falcon is a human.

So is Link and Ganondorf, hahaha.

 

[Kiki52]

Captain falcon is a human.

So is Link and Ganondorf, hahaha.

Yes they are human but they are animated more in some sort of cartoony or animated style. Snake has more realistical PS2 type graphics, and that is why some people say Snake doesn't fit in Brawl with the likes of Kirby and other cartoony characters.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

A+B would be a new move for every character.

 

[MisterDrBob]

Now I feel stupid for making a Lucario speculation thread yesterday.
Anyway, obviously the original twelve will be in and I beleive that the Melee characters who made it into Brawl are now permanent keeps. In terms of returning Brawlers, if they represent a series, they're shoe-ins, so that means that Pit, R.O.B., Wario, Olimar, Snake, and Sonic are safe. Diddy Kong, King Dedede, Meta Knight, Wolf, Pokemon Trainer, and Lucas are probably safe too. I think Toon Link, Lucario, and Ike could be kept, but as I said before, I started a thread on that that's probably going to be locked (oh noes, first locked thread!). Anyways, I think its possible that those three could be replaced by characters newer to their franchises by the time of SSB4. Newcomers: if Mega Man, Proto Man, Bass, X, Zero, Simon Belmont, The Light Warriors, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Little Mac, Ridley, one of the hunters from Prime:Hunters and/or Prime 3, Krystal (who I actually did not expect to be in Brawl), Samurai Goroh, Waluigi, Daisy, Bowser Jr., Dixie Kong, King K.Rool, Rival Trainer, Female Trainer and Porky aren't in the game, (note: I don't actually expect all of these) I'm gonna punch a goat (it's more dastardly than it sounds). I think that returning stages should span all three games this time around. Can't say I have too many opinions on possible stages, but a few ideas are Good Egg Galaxy, Space Colony ARK, Angel Island, Phazze, Aparoid Homeworld, and Fire Field. I think that there should definitely be a sequel to Subspace Emissary. Maybe with more depth to the story, cooler enemies and better levels. Dr. Eggman, Kracko, the assimilated Pigma, Dracula, Guts Man, Cut Man, and Ghoma should be bosses on top of some returning bosses from Brawl. I think most single player modes will return. Boss Battles is fun enough to stay, I think they should bring back Race to the Finish from Melee, Target Test is a given, so is All-Star mode. My Music should definitely be a feature with an even more epic soundtrack. Coin Launcher could be even more fun if you had to fight Bosses a la Galaga and other classic shooters just for the heck of it. Masterpieces I can see returning but I'm not going to rip my hair out if they don't include it. Same goes for Chronicle.

 

[Johnthegalactic]

So, we got about five years to speculate on the next SSB game?

This is what I hope for.
It is likely for the next Nintendo system, hopefully it will have large stages reminiscent of Hyrule Temple and a larger FD that doesn't ruin non-tether recovery.
The physics will be improved upon from those of Melee, but very up to date.
There will be up to eight players in an online match.
Blu Ray disk will be supported for the next system, allowed a much more jam packed game.
There will be updates to the game(keep ATs on the low guys).
The character roster will be large, diverse, feature Ridley, have zero clones(except Mewtwo and Snake, lol), characters will have unique falling speed, by that, i mean Fox will fall fastest, and Ridley will be included.

Enjoy.

Ideally it is Melee 2.0(humorous speculation from here on), it will have moar characters! /10 new chars

The graphics will be great, to where you can see the sweat exiting the pore on the breast of Bowser!
The controls will be immersing, a game cube controller will be the better alternative though.
Sonic, Shadow, Tails, Knuckles, Dr. Eggman, Big the cat, Amy, chows, and every other Sonic character ever playable will be in the game.
Ike will have a shorter sword and extreme buffs, Marth will get a knife instead of a sword, and have even greater buffs.
There will be super-final smashes, as final smashes will be a normal, easy to execute command that never runs out.
Mario will be removed from the game.
Peach will have dark brown hair for Super Smash Bros Melee 2.0.
Dr. Mario will return.
Mewtwo will be an assist trophy.
Sakurai will control R.O.B similiar to the Pokemon trainer set up.
Pokemon trainer can now be male, female or Team rocket grunt.

There will be Samus, ZS Samus is still in.
There will be Snake, Naked Snake will be added(as a clone of ZS Samus).
Sakurai told me.

And the best thing about it!

I have high hopes!

 

[Grunt]

How about a switch that turns on and off special meters, so final smashes aren't left to chance.
Also, more would be cool, like 3rd strike, you choose which hyper you want.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

A+B would be a new move for every character.

Ya, except that would be hard on GC controller... Ever think about that, buddy? Think B4 you speak!

 

[Ilex]

Personally, I would love the complete removal of 3rd party character and make it all-nintendo, like it should be. It's called Super Smash BROTHERS for a reason. Like they're all part of a family.

 

[SkylerOcon]

Personally, I would love the complete removal of 3rd party character and make it all-nintendo, like it should be. It's called Super Smash BROTHERS for a reason. Like they're all part of a family.

The only people that fit that bill are Luigi and Mario. ZOMG A 2 CHARACTUR SMASH BROZ?! AWSUMZ!11!@@2!

(That means your idea fails. Smash Brothers was meant to be a game showcasing some of gamings greatest heroes duking it out. Some third party characters will be needed.)

 

[fkacyan]

Personally, I would love the complete removal of 3rd party character and make it all-nintendo, like it should be. It's called Super Smash BROTHERS for a reason. Like they're all part of a family.

I say include them. Franchises such as Metal Gear, Megaman, and Ninja Gaiden (The second two need representation as well, IMO) all owe their success to their beginnings with Nintendo.

 

[The Halloween Captain]

I would like every character thats ever been in Smash to return at least as an alternate costume (Dr. Mario a mario costume, Young Link a Toon Link costume, etc.) and Shadow the Hedgehog to at least be a Sonic costume, if not his own character.

Snake, MK, R.O.B., and GW should be nerfed, C. Falcon buffed, Gannon a new moveset, and the transformations for Zelda and Pokemon Trainer sped up.

Also, I'm all for third parties, but in all honesty Megaman is not that big a deal. He's like a third-party version of Pit in importance to Nintendo History. Of course, I am a little biased as I never played his games...

 

[SkylerOcon]

I would like every character thats ever been in Smash to return at least as an alternate costume (Dr. Mario a mario costume, Young Link a Toon Link costume, etc.) and Shadow the Hedgehog to at least be a Sonic costume, if not his own character.

Snake, MK, R.O.B., and GW should be nerfed, C. Falcon buffed, Gannon a new moveset, and the transformations for Zelda and Pokemon Trainer sped up.

Also, I'm all for third parties, but in all honesty Megaman is not that big a deal. He's like a third-party version of Pit in importance to Nintendo History. Of course, I am a little biased as I never played his games...

You lost all credibility when you suggested that Shadow could be his own character (I daresay that Shadow is, in fact, the faker).

Megaman is a very important character in the history of video games. Though his more recent games have been less that exciting, his old games are true classics. Megaman X (considered by many to be the best game in the series) is still one of the best shooters ever made. Halo doesn't even compare.

 

[WolfCypher]

I want everyone in my sig to return for 4.

I want Isaac of Golden Sun to be playable.

I want the 3rd Parties to stay at a minimum, with Sonic & Snake returning, and new, non-Sega and non-Konami additions added (Megaman, for instance), but not to exceed 4-5 guest characters. If we get more Sonic characters (sigh), then I hope it doesn't go too far. Otherwise, this game might as well be called "Super Smash Brothers 4 + Sega".

I want Nintendo to start making more character-driven franchises so by the time SSB4 is being developed, we'll have new characters from new series.

Character fixing:
Mario is fine.
Luigi is fine.
Peach is fine. Yes, I know she was better in Melee, but her Brawl nerfing did not ruin her at all.
Bowser is fine.
Make Donkey Kong a bit faster. His attacks still leave him open for a guy that doesn't have enough super armor frames (or give hime more super armor frames).
Diddy Kong is fine.
Yoshi, more or less, is fine.
Wario is very good.
Link is a lost cause. Three games in a row and he's been mediocre. Do something!
Zelda and Sheik are both fine. Sheik could be improved a bit.
Make Ganondorf his own character, goddammit!
Toon Link is fine...better than Link, which is sad. Though he should have had more original moves.
Samus needs improving (she's just as good/bad as Link). Zero Suit Samus...no comment.
Pit is perfect. Not cheap, not horrible, has his flaws, has his appeals.
The Ice Climbers are fine.
R.O.B. is fine, surprisingly.
Kirby is good. NEVER make him as bad as he was in Melee ever again!
King Dedede...no comment.
Meta Knight, I'm gonna be biased, and say keep him as he is.
Olimar, I have no comment on.
Fox is fine, even after his nerfs.
Falco is fine.
Wolf needs more balanced recovery. Otherwise, good.
Captain Falcon is a joke, ironic since everyone speaks of him like he's all that, and now he's one of the worst characters in the game. Heh...
Pikachu, give or take, is fine.
Pokémon Trainer's Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard are fine, though I wouldn't mind seeing some improvements on all three.
Lucario needs more speed, in both running speed, and attacking speed. But most importantly, its starting damage is too low! I know the more damage it takes, the stronger it gets, but its starting damage shouldn't be lower than the defualt character. I mean, Lucario has to be at about 70% just to be as strong as Mario! It starts off too low!
Jigglypuff, in my own honest opinion, feel it should be right where it is, but for all the Jigglypuff mainers, at least make it like it was in Melee.
Marth is fine, albiet he can be cheap in certain hands.
Ike...no comment.
Ness & Lucas need to have more differences. Clone, much?
Mr. Game & Watch, I don't give a rat's *** about.
Snake is too good. Nerf him a bit.
Sonic is not good enough. Buff him a bit.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Personally, I would love the complete removal of 3rd party character and make it all-nintendo, like it should be. It's called Super Smash BROTHERS for a reason. Like they're all part of a family.

what! you mean to say you want to cut out some of the greatest video game icons such as Megaman and Sonic? if that happened then it wouldn't truly be a smash where some of the best get together to duke it out, so you FAIL!

 

[MaxThunder]

...hm... i know!!! it would be really great if they put in lloyd, genis, collete, raine, sheena, cratos, regal, presea and zelos from tales of symphonia... and maybe some people from tales of phantasia... and the people from tale of symphonia: dawn of the new world too!!! and cloud!!!(dont think square enix would agree to that though...) and um...MITHOS!!!... (from ToS again... yeah i'm a tos fan...) and Midna... in her... human like form... not the shrimp form... that would be stupid... and zant.. that would really be cool...his final smash could be going all crasy and spinning around the stage...(okay... that sounded stupid...) and waluigi... its not fair for wario that mario got luigi and he dont got waluigi... and whithout him we cant make mario luigi vs. wario waluigi matches... and daisy...(for luigi=) and some more people from fire emblem... put mewtwo back in there... but whith enchanced powers and... less... flying to hellyness... and megaman...(is he a nintento guy? if he is put in that whitehaired guy too..) ... and they need a completely new story mode...we could take a big epic story based on each separate game mashed toghether to form the ultimate story of them all... where you have to fight all the bad guys from all the series and stuff... and multiple storylines based on your choises troughout the story...( i thnk i have used up the word story now...) and of course more sonic characters... like knuckles... and tails... and amy... and sonic(ooops)... and shadow... and... uh.... doctor... egg... head? i reallt dunno... he's stupid anyway... and chaos... and that little fluffy rabbit thing...(okay.... maybe not the little fluffy rabbit thing)... thats really all i can think of now.... ( i think i can fin more stuff if i actually think about it a little... i've just been writing everythink thats falling out of my head close to the topic...)... yeah... this is clearly the lngest post i've ever made... probably the longest post i'm ever gonna make too...

 

[WolfCypher]

Personally, I would love the complete removal of 3rd party character and make it all-nintendo, like it should be. It's called Super Smash BROTHERS for a reason. Like they're all part of a family.

what! you mean to say you want to cut out some of the greatest video game icons such as Megaman and Sonic? if that happened then it wouldn't truly be a smash where some of the best get together to duke it out, so you FAIL!

Hey, I agree with Ilex to some extent. While it never hurt to have a few guest characters (in fact, who DIDN'T want Sonic in any Mario game after Sega went 3rd-party?), if Nintendo decided to go overkill on us and gave us more and more 3rd party characters, this franchise would come off as a sell-out.

And Smash Brothers is a Nintendo crossover game wintin its own universes. Sonic and Snake (where did you get Mega Man from since he wasn't in any Smash game yet) were very cool additions, but to say that cutting these characters out would ruin the game and that the game "wouldn't truly be a smash where some of the best get together to duke it out" is untrue, since this game would have the best of NINTENDO. Sonic and Snake were the bonus...Mario, Link, Pikachu, and the others were the meats and potatoes.

 

[mariofanpm12]

i dont think the third party characters should extend beyond snake and sonic
i just dont like the thought of a bunch of random(even if popular) characters interfering in a Nintendo based game.

Sonic, yeah sure he's fine. He almost fits perfectly since he and Mario starred together before and he's a majorely wanted icon for smash.

Snake, well they begged for him to be in melee, so he deserves a spot in brawl.

but all the third party guest may unbalance the game.

If people want megaman in, then what'd happen if he was in but he sucked? you know, low or bottom tier? people would riot.

so to avoid this, nintendo would make third party characters really good( or cheap) like they did with snake, to make their guest appearance count.

with a bunch of 3rd party characters,a ll of whom were good, it'd take the spotlight from nintendo's star characters, both in casual and professional eyes.

 

[Swordsrule]

For the love of all that is sacred to Smash....please, PLEASE, dont have tripping in SSB4...


Please...

Also...
Buff Shiek
Include Issac, Ray MK1, Mega(if they must), and a protagonist from Castlevania series (any will do..)
No more sonic characters, except for knuckles (the only one promising a new moveset...), we all know if they put shadow in hes gonna be a clone of sonic...its inevitable.
and lastly, leave GW the same, he's finally awesome.

 

[Ilex]

The only people that fit that bill are Luigi and Mario. ZOMG A 2 CHARACTUR SMASH BROZ?! AWSUMZ!11!@@2!

(That means your idea fails. Smash Brothers was meant to be a game showcasing some of gamings greatest heroes duking it out. Some third party characters will be needed.)

No. By 'Brothers' I meant different games while staying in the Nintendo realm. You can't tell me that Megaman and Sonic are as close to Mario as DK or Pikachu are. Masterchief is also a great gaming protagonist, should he be added? Why don't they just throw in Marcus Fenix too? Goldeneye 007 was an awesome game, so shouldn't James Bond be put in the next SSB? I hope you see what I'm getting at. We can't just throw in every game character because people like them, it takes the spotlight away from the Nintendo stars for whom the game features.

i dont think the third party characters should extend beyond snake and sonic
i just dont like the thought of a bunch of random(even if popular) characters interfering in a Nintendo based game.

Sonic, yeah sure he's fine. He almost fits perfectly since he and Mario starred together before and he's a majorely wanted icon for smash.

Snake, well they begged for him to be in melee, so he deserves a spot in brawl.

but all the third party guest may unbalance the game.

If people want megaman in, then what'd happen if he was in but he sucked? you know, low or bottom tier? people would riot.

so to avoid this, nintendo would make third party characters really good( or cheap) like they did with snake, to make their guest appearance count.

with a bunch of 3rd party characters,a ll of whom were good, it'd take the spotlight from nintendo's star characters, both in casual and professional eyes.

I totally agree with you. I guess I can be lenient with Sonic because now he's pretty much Nintendo now anyway and everybody knows him. I had no idea who Snake was until his inclusion in Brawl.

 

[Maester]

Improved Online

MOOOOOOOOOOOORE CHARACTERS like Lip, Toadette, Saria (Zelda:OoT)

Improved Princess Peach =/

Better stage builder

Better 1p modes

I really just want more characters and better online

 

[permalast]

SSBM=super smash brothers massacre
SSBA=super smash brothers armageddon
SSBR=super smash brothers riot
SSBWZ=super smash brothers war zone
SSBBR=super smash brothers battle royale

could think of more, cbf...

things i want:
NO DELAYS XD
more characters such as-zant, NO PACMAN WHATSOVER, dry bones...

havnt got game yet -.- australia... but yeah...

 

[permalast]

what! you mean to say you want to cut out some of the greatest video game icons such as Megaman and Sonic? if that happened then it wouldn't truly be a smash where some of the best get together to duke it out, so you FAIL!

colossal Phail...

 

[globiumz]

I posted stuff about rebalancing earlier, but I decided to dedicate on post to this.

Snake melee attacks are way to strong. KOing with his A combo? Seriously? Nerf Snake's overpowered melee moves. nefr those stupid hitboxes aswell. Less priority on all his attacks. Reduce the AoE of all explosives as well as the damage. Only one grenade at a time. Take out the mortar slide. Less KO power on lesser explosives such as the nikita missiles and grenades.

Reduce MK's range by a bit, and take away a chunk of his priority. Remove two of his jumps, and restrict him to gliding once each time he enters the air. Nerf the distance he is carried by drill rush, mach tornado, and shuttle loop.

Marth also needs to get his range nerfed, but not by much. Take away some KO power, priority, and a bit of speed and we should have a balanced character. It' just unfair how good Marth is at KOing considering he also has range and speedy attacks.

Remove one of Dedede's jumps. It doesn't make sense for a fatass to jump that many times, even if he is from the Kirby universe. Lessen the height of his super Dedede jump. No more CGing or infinites.

Sonic needs moar priority. Upgrade the speed of his attacks. He's supposed to be fast, so why is only his movement fast? One more reliable KO move, in addition to more KOing power on his already good KO moves, and Sonic might actually be a good character.

Increase the KO and damage on both homing and power missiles for Samus. No helpless mode after screw attack, and increase the horizontal distance it carries Samus. Make the charge shot a very good KO move. Make the uncharged B spammable, with more range but no knockback or stun. Fully charged and not should be regarded as two different moves so diminishing returns shouldn't affect the fully charged shot. Bomb jumping becomes easy again and down B becoemsm orph ball form as I described in an earlier post.

Captain Falcon, why the heck does he suck so much? He's awesome. More priority. Better hit boxes. In other words, powerful attackst hat are easier to land and actually do something when you manage to land 'em. Falcon punch is one of the most iconic moves in all Smash Bros. It should have one of the highest priorities in the whole game. Wario's eating cancelling it out disgusts me.

I dunno what to do about Yoshi. Make his eggs easier to spam. Give his egg roll higher priority and make it harder to get knocked out of. His recovery move needs to carry him longer and have moar super armor frames. Buff the KO power of some of his moves and add another good KOing move.

One less wing flap for Pit. Also, Wings of Icarus shouldn't carry him that far. Add some lag to his arrows. Make it harder to get caught in his angle ring. Make the shield breakable, and it shouldn't stop smash attacks and other, strong attacks.

Tink and Falco don't need rebalancing if they are taken out, stupid half clones. But if I had to rebalance 'em, I would add moar lag to Falco's laser (or just give him a new move) and remove CGing. I would also nerf Tink's KO power. I mean, he looks like a weakling and he's just a kid. He should have moar problems with KOing.

Pikachu has become a lot better since Melee. Reduce the speed of thunder to avoid spamming. Also reduce the damage on more powerful moves. Fsmash should get a small nerf in range.

I think they buffed Zelda bit too much. Din's fire should deal less damage and have less KO power. Her smash attacks also need to be nerfed. Less knockback on all smash attacks, and less speed on Dsmash.

How to remove chain grabbing and infinite grabbing? Simple, just make it a requirement that you have to attack/shield three times before you can grab again. Dunno what to do about ROB....

 

[DekuBoy]

Add no more third parties. Keep Snake and Sonic BUT NO MORE.

 

[Stiputation]

Just give me Sukapon.
Also, Smash really does need moar female representation.