Official Snake Q&A Area

[ADHD]

That doesn't add up at all. He has to have some kind of odd property to it, his spotdodge makes it incredibly hard to time fast moves to punish it and so does his airdodge.

 

[Attila_]

i've never had that issue in the ditto. i also never get away with spotdodging, either.

although i have noticed that diddy can spotdodge through snake's hold 'a' jab, and ps upon returning from his dodge. i've only noticed d3/falco/diddy do this.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

i've never had that issue in the ditto. i also never get away with spotdodging, either.

although i have noticed that diddy can spotdodge through snake's hold 'a' jab, and ps upon returning from his dodge. i've only noticed d3/falco/diddy do this.

Marth too, he can spotdodge to up b out of rapid jabs, so gay.

 

[Kuro~]

iirc, any attack cancels grounded nado, although mk typically has frame advantage.

also, you need tap jump unless you either claw or change your controls; you can't hold a nade and jump unless you do O_o

Well i've never had that problem with nades and i dont claw

However, ik alot of snakes that like their *unused* shield buttton as jump cuz it lets them sdi and spam jump when getting nado'd and it also helps with the other thing.

 

[Attila_]

Well i've never had that problem with nades and i dont claw

However, ik alot of snakes that like their *unused* shield buttton as jump cuz it lets them sdi and spam jump when getting nado'd and it also helps with the other thing.

then how do you physically hold b and press y?

 

[KMFBrawler]

Okay I have a few questions... I tried looking for them but there are 100000000 guides on snake and I have no clue where to look.

1) Is there any way to cancel Snake's side B move, basically is there a way to make it end early?
2) What moves of his beat tornado? I know Utilt and all his explosives do but is there anything else?
3) How do you do that rapid jab thing that he can do?
4) In one of the guides it says to leave tap jump on? Why? I see no reason why this is important is it?

about point 3: If you want to jab quickly while hitting an opponent, holding the attack button will input the standard combo. But if you just want to jab real quickly while hitting your opponent, you'll have to press A, down, Press A, down, etc. But pretty quick.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

the whole pressing down thing does nothings at all.

 

[False]

Yume are you saying that jab cancelling isn't useful? Imo its underused

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I agree with False, because i've seen Razer do some rather neat things with it.

 

[IxxI]

I haven't logged on in a long time.

Everything is so different.

Edit: March 2008? Damn, I'm old.

 

[SeekHeart]

<3 the asian girl avatar, good question guys, how do you over come a super arrow spammy pit that planks like no tmr??

 

[-Ran]

1) Power shielding.
2) Baiting/Conditioning.
3) Cooked grenades.
4) Maintaining your lead, and never approaching them.

 

[SeekHeart]

how do you bait with snake?

 

[False]

Bait air dodges through empty jumps, bait shield by doing ftilt1 or jab, etc.

 

[SeekHeart]

sry for noob question but what's an empty jump?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I think it means just doing nothing. but jump.

 

[Kuro~]

1) Power shielding.
2) Baiting/Conditioning.
3) Cooked grenades.
4) Maintaining your lead, and never approaching them.

I dont agree about the no approaching part...thats a bad idea. If he's on the ledge however 1) keep track of his ledge grabs 2) you can simply go to the other ledge and wait till u see him approaching. 3) set a c4 on one side and when he goes to the other follow and simply hold him off with nades/PS/spotdodge if uairs you with a nade he gets hit.

However, again if u have %/stock lead just go to the other ledge lol. In pits face is where you'll find most success against pit. Pit has enough options to get away/compete but up close is where-well i already said it- so ya.

 

[Attila_]

answered this question heaps of times. l2search.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

Yume are you saying that jab cancelling isn't useful? Imo its underused

I'm saying that technically the jab doesn't cancel, you just wait for jab1 to end and then do a different attach, pressing the control stick down does nothing at all.

 

[Reyney]

yes it does.
it helps you with the timing.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

Also helps you DI badly and thus die early if you get hit while doing it.

 

[OnlyUseMeNades]

Are you sure there's no difference? I've tried Jab > Grab (Z) with no down input and it registers as a second jab. It works with the down input

 

[Yumewomiteru]

because when you put the down input it forces you to slow down, if you do them at the same speed there will be no difference.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

*Delete* Nvm ^_^

 

[Kuro~]

Also helps you DI badly and thus die early if you get hit while doing it.

No jabing tht way has its uses. I don't feel like getting into a debate about it. Im just gonna say i've found success vs good players with it in certain situations and as a mixup. Also snakes jab cancel is a jab cancel. Like falco's or ikes. Som1 who's isnt would be...for example Pit. His is not a legitimate jab cancel he cant. If it works its cuz u let it with him there are way more frames inbetween then the first 3 listed who's are.

 

[Flutter NiTE]

Best controller port for Snake?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I'm fairly certain it's the 4th port, just because explosives don't hurt you when you have someone in a grab.

 

[SeekHeart]

it's always the higher # so yea 4

 

[Yumewomiteru]

I'm fairly certain it's the 4th port, just because explosives don't hurt you when you have someone in a grab.

Lemme amend that, when you are grabbing someone or getting grabbed, if both of you get hit by an attack/explosion, both of you take damage, but only the one with the lower port gets sent flying, while the other person just have the release animation (think superarmor).

But if the attack/explosion hits only one person, only that person gets sent flying and take the damage, the other person releases/gets released.

 

[Wilmenz]

You also can't get Omnigayed :trollface:

 

[Yumewomiteru]

you can, if both of you die.

 

[OnlyUseMeNades]

What's Omnigayed?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

Lemme amend that, when you are grabbing someone or getting grabbed, if both of you get hit by an attack/explosion, both of you take damage, but only the one with the lower port gets sent flying, while the other person just have the release animation (think superarmor).

But if the attack/explosion hits only one person, only that person gets sent flying and take the damage, the other person releases/gets released.

Thanks for correcting me ^_^

 

[Mike2]

Ok I have no idea where to find this. If there's a thread about this or this info is in a thread and someone could point it out to me that'd be great!

Question:

What characters and till what % does uthrow "combo" to utilt? And is it guaranteed?

 

[Attila_]

No one really looked into it, since tech chasing is always better. Pretty much only works at zero.

 

[Black Mantis]

How do Snake and ROB work together in teams?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I'd see it being fun, because I could see rob going along with aerials, & Snake doing nice on the ground, but I don't really have much doubles experience so I wouldn't really know all to well myself.

 

[Flutter NiTE]

How do Snake and ROB work together in teams?

Pretty well imo. Won't be able to compete with a MK and Snake, but still good. I prefer Kirby & Snake over Rob & snake tho

 

[Attila_]

Snake/Diddy is amazing.

The strongest stage control game on neutrals IMO.

 

[OnlyUseMeNades]

Wouldn't that get in each other's way a lot?

Is it even possible to have that good of control over your hitboxes?