Official Sheik Power Rankings

[stealth3654]

Official Sheik Power Rankings

This is the Sheik's power rankings thread. The power rankings are a list of the most successful and talented Sheiks in our community, selected by panelists elected by the Sheik boards.

The purpose of this thread is not to discourage or anger anyone. Instead, the purpose is to not only show who the best Sheiks are, but it is also to try to inspire and motivate other Sheiks to do better in tournaments, and to create some healthy competition within the Sheik boards.

Criteria for being in the rankings are tournament performance (how you placed, who you beat, who you lost to) over the period from August 2009 to the end of January 2010.

The Panelists:
Ankoku
<3
Tristan
Light
Choknater

The Sheik Power Rankings:
(last updated February 5, 2010)
1. Light - 25 pts.
2. <3 - 20 pts.
3. Scary - 11 pts.
4. KenniSpam - 10 pts.
5. Tristan - 9 pts.

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Key:
Players in green moved up in ranking
Players in blue did not move at all
Players in red moved down in ranking
Players in white have been recently added to the list
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If you do not agree with the power rankings, that's fine. The power rankings, however, will not be changed until it is next updated. Lets keep the discussion clean.

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Results Archive:

KENNISPAM
---
8/22/09 Most Powerful Shinobi - 9/42
beat Akashi, JBlan, 18spikes, Fol
lost Kirk, Ryzen

9/12/09 MPS - 9/31
beat Oro, Red Ryu, Magic Josh
lost Arty, DLA

10/10/09 MAS - 13/31
beat spongejordan
lost Akashi, Meneil

11/28/09 WSBT2 - 2/12
beat nacho, Buuda, Magic Josh, Fade
lost Sago

01/02/2010 - MAS 2 - 9/34
beat Aerox, Fatboy
lost Arty, Yoshq


LIGHT
---
11/08/09 HxC Brawl Tournament - 9/31
beat Kuni, Zeton
lost Dphat, FK

11/14/09 Phase 3 - 9/39
beat Bwett, Chic
lost Dphat, Razer

12/12/09 HOBO 21 - 17/50
beat ???
lost Lee Martin, Snakeee

01/23/10 OSU Monthly #2 - 5/50
beat Bees, Sam Lytal, foxy brown, typeX
lost mr.doom, Bassem


STEALTH
---
??? Halloween Bash - 8/36
beat ???
lost ???

??? Zero Gamer's Biweekly - 3/12
beat ???
lost Kismet, Reflex

??? Anime convention - 3/22
beat Kismet, ???
lost Reflex, Kismet

??? Winterfest - died
lost HRNut, DPhat


RATHY ARO
---
11/28/09 PolyBrawl - 49/76
lost MBlaze, Bee

01/02/10 Wiegraf Too Good - 33/43
lost Penta, SFP


DMT
---
11/28/09 PolyBrawl - 33/76
beat Victory
lost PGN, Rien

??? BUM's Tournament - ???
lost PatG, Izumi


<3
---
12/12/09 WATO 8.5 - 4/24
beat person, Hiroi, Fearless, GDX
lost Seibrik, Radix

??? Winterfest - died
lost Mero, Nick Riddle

??? Local tournament - died
lost kyon, Noa


SCARY
---
12/12/09 WATO 8.5 - 13/24
lost Razek, Chaz

??? Winterfest - died
lost 2nLio, R@vyn

01/31/10 Play n Trade Tampa - 2/49
beat Trumptight, Mattt
lost RedHalberd


ANKOKU
---
12/19/09 LoLiS V - 13/42
beat Rhino, Kappy
lost Judge, Blue Rogue, Suyon

01/23/10 Michigan Ball Z - 9/27
beat Duck, Kip, Smash, Tutu, BigDaddy
lost Anther, Omni, Boxxy


MARS
---
12/19/09 R3 - 33/64
beat 141, Stig, Li-93, Sonik, VatoBreak
lost Erow, F8, Sleeyh, RedJ, rip

01/06/10 Utah Tournament - 5/13
beat C!Z
lost Sexy Yaz, Lada


TRISTAN
---
01/02/10 Crewfest! - 9/33
beat Kyuzo, Candy, Don
lost Takeover, Candy

 

[choknater]

lol i want to be on the panel

anyway

i think armada snakeee and light are the best right now anyway

PR's are irrelevant to me, i jsut want to be the best

hm

i guess i dont wanna be on the panel ^_^

 

[Leafplayer452]

I believe its

1. NEO
2. Light

Other than that I havent seen any other Sheik being worthy of my mentioning

 

[saviorslegacy]

Other than that I havent seen any other Sheik being worthy of my mentioning

I lol'd

10chars

 

[Tristan_win]

I wont lie, I really don't know that much about Sheik ranking in tournaments but as far as I see who is the best and still active it would go something like

Neo
Light
...Champ?

Is champ still active?

That's my top 3

 

[rathy Aro]

Can we do the vote again in this thread? People were sort of all over the place in the last one.
Chok -He SERIOUSLY needs to be on for a more diverse view on Sheik. He knows his **** too.
Ankoku - He probably won't do it, but he'd be the best for the job due to sheik knowledge and general knowledge of the game. Plus I trust him to be more objective than anyone else on this board.
Light -He seems to know things about how to play sheik that no one else is applying. I don't think there's a sheik out there who knows sheik match ups better (except possibly the mysterious neo's sheik)
Tristan - He knows sheik better than anyone ATM, hands down. No question. it'd be stupid if it wan't on the panel.
<3 - His name is a ****ing mindgame. You think he offers love, but he's actually telling you that you have less than 3 seconds before he gimps you! (Serious reason is that he's smart, knows sheik theoretically, and in practice. You could say that about lots of people, but all the other people that come to mind seem inactive or I don't trust as much).

edit: What do people think about me being on the panel? I'm pretty sure no one would go for it, but I do know sheik (though mine sucks) and I think I'd be good at making a criteria. I'll suggest my criteria anyway.
I strongly suggest:
-The only things we consider are money matches (who you beat and how you played) and tournament results (who you beat, how you played, and how well you placed). That's it! No theorycraft or guess work! If the sheik isn't clearly active stop discussing him/her!
-Vids or it didn't happen (in the case of a tournament the results are adequate proof).
-Only new acheivements. I don't care if saviors ***** M2K yesterday. We're trying to encourage sheiks to get good from now on and we don't want accomplished sheiks getting on the list when they do nothing now (they like to slack =P).
-Redo it every 3 months (12 weeks).

 

[<π]

less than three seconds... nice.

who ever gets on the panel should be using tourney placings MMs and Tourney matches to decide who is placing where as well as who they played and beat under these conditions.

I don't like counting friendlies, because it seems a lot of the time people can't put their all into the match with nothing important to lose.

 

[stealth3654]

The panelists should also consider if the Sheik main uses Sheik and another character during the tournament.

Leaf, are those your votes for NEO and Light?

For those of you that haven't yet, VOTE before the end of the week!!!! Each person gets 3 votes.

 

[rathy Aro]

In that case. I officially vote Chok, Light, and <3.

only reason i didn't vote tristan is because I expect he'll get voted on anyway.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I thought these kinds of threads weren't allowed?

 

[<π]

OH snap he's right!! Quick everyone lets make an exception.

 

[-dMT-]

My votes are:

<3
Choknater
Tristan

 

[stealth3654]

I thought these kinds of threads weren't allowed?

Really? Don't other boards have them, too?

 

[thexsunrosered]

light
chok

win

 

[stealth3654]

light
chok

win

I'm guessing that these are your votes, and the last one is Tristan?

 

[thexsunrosered]

I'm guessing that these are your votes, and the last one is Tristan?

haha yeah I guess, I forgot tristan was tristan_win, I was just saying it because those two win by themselves, but tristan does too :]

I also responded to your question on the falco boards :]

 

[-dMT-]

So what's the plan. Select panel, then have panel discuss the details as to how players will be ranked?

 

[Tristan_win]

I vote for <3 Light and champ.

 

[JackieRabbit5]

i vote Light, Tristan, Choknater

main ones i'm familiar with

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Really? Don't other boards have them, too?

Link boards did but Buzz took it down saying you can't make thread about specific people. This causes a huge ****fest where most of the Link mains left for AiB.

Ganon boards had one at one point but I think it got taken down as well.

 

[Tristan_win]

If we have problems like the Link's and Ganon's then I suggest one of the panelists to just make a blog on smashboards about their decision and then post the address in the general chat thread.

 

[saviorslegacy]

(or) make a user group.

 

[rathy Aro]

So what's the plan. Select panel, then have panel discuss the details as to how players will be ranked?

Yeah, pretty much.

I suggest, once the panel is selected that and they come up with a criteria, they should only make decisions 2 (or 3) months from now giving sheik's November and December (possibly January) to go out and do well. Making the list now or even soon wouldn't make much sense.

and I agree a user group would be a good idea

 

[-dMT-]

Yeah, pretty much.

I suggest, once the panel is selected that and they come up with a criteria, they should only make decisions 2 (or 3) months from now giving sheik's November and December (possibly January) to go out and do well. Making the list now or even soon wouldn't make much sense.

Agreed.

The criteria for the ranking process should be very clear and easy to understand. If the power ranking is based on solid, well-defined statistics and a logical, mathematical system ( ie. points) the thread should not find a place in the cross hairs of moderation; The basis would be more of a " Which Sheik players are performing better at tournaments lately?" rather than a " Who has the l33test Sheik of them all?"

This should then be looked at as healthy competition to perform better at tournaments, rather than have players flame each other. I honestly think the Sheik boards are one of the most respectful boards, and are abundant with intelligent posters - we shouldn't have an issue here.

 

[Tristan_win]

Agreed.

The criteria for the ranking process should be very clear and easy to understand. If the power ranking is based on solid, well-defined statistics and a logical, mathematical system ( ie. points) the thread should not find a place in the cross hairs of moderation; The basis would be more of a " Which Sheik players are performing better at tournaments lately?" rather than a " Who has the l33test Sheik of them all?"

This should then be looked at as healthy competition to perform better at tournaments, rather than have players flame each other. I honestly think the Sheik boards are one of the most respectful boards, and are abundant with intelligent posters - we shouldn't have an issue here.

The problem with going off of pure tournament results though is that I don't think we even have 10 tournaments going competitive sheiks. Which is why I think we need to either expend what decides who is listed in the power ranking, make it top 5 instead of 10, or make it incomplete until those remaining spots are filled.

 

[-dMT-]

Top 5 would make more sense in my opinion as well.

 

[<π]

concidering how few sheiks there are ATM, lol.

I also really want who people have played to affect their rankings. If someone knocks M2K into losers and then immediately lose... maybe to ICs or something; they should get some cool points despite a bad placing. thats said if you enter an all gannondorf tourney as sheik, and some how win without being disqualified...

You placement is important. but almost more than that who you are actually playing against and losing to is also important.

 

[-dMT-]

Also the use of secondaries. How much of the tournament did the Sheik player use Sheik?

Also would Money Matches count? Bringing up performance vs top ranked opponents, such as M2K, can also suggest the inclusion of Money Match results. The real question comes into how these things would be taken into consideration. There should be little to no room for personal opinions, to honestly call it a statistical power ranking.

I would also suggest the help of Ankoku, should he agree to lend a hand. I say this because he's done ranking before, with his statistical list on character tiers before the release of an official tier list. He employed a point-based system that I believe can be a good place to start in forming a rubric by which the Sheik Ranks will be made.

 

[<π]

I'll pick his brain Even though he won't like it~

I think MMs should count but only to a degree

 

[-dMT-]

I agree with MMs. It's that degree that needs to be determined lol

 

[NO-IDea]

A week is hardly a sufficient amount of time to make a PR unless you make it based on current tournament results and MMs. And voting? That gives leeway to so much bias, especially when I highly doubt any of you have ever played each other (not Sheik dittos, but played each others Sheiks in general), let alone seen each other play IRL, thus basing it off videos which often times can be skewed versions of how people play (unless they were recorded tourney matches. Friendlies don't count. Seriously.)

Which therefore means people should be posting their records here. Then the panelists (Ankoku would probably be the most reputable and objective judge on your boards) would be used to dispute who has the best record. This method also weeds out any inactive players.

If there aren't enough active players (Sheik mains who don't have tournament records, or reputable victories for that matter,) to make a legitimate top five, then maybe a PR isn't a good idea.

 

[<π]

You miss understand. We are voting for a group of panelist right now. It will be the panelist responsibility with the help of the community to determine who the best sheiks are bassed on many of the factors you mentioned. Friendlies and hip happenin' video's aren't going to cut it when it comes to making the list. Thats something the whole of the sheik comunity already understands.

That said it seems like we are starting fresh we won't be using existing records but will instead only refer to tournies and such that have taken place after the panel has been constructed.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I think this gonna be fun.

 

[-dMT-]

A lot of major East Coast tournaments coming up soon, one of which I am hosting. I suggest the panel be constructed asap so we can start data collection.

 

[iLight]

yeah, i've kind of been inactive from tournies for the past few weeks, though i'll be going to the next hobo and probably hosting a tournament of my own soon, which is usually counted towards TX PRs. Also i will be going to winterfest in florida, since i'll be there visiting my family for christmas, it should be fun. Hopefully i can do some good placing w/ mostly sheik.

just clarify for people who don't know me i only use mk now for the ditto =]

 

[<π]

How do you feel about pika and Ics Light :3

 

[Zankoku]

Since I got PM'd about it...

I'd be willing to be on the panel, but only if I get voted on in the first place.

 

[iLight]

against pika I play sheik, and IC's are pretty much the only reason why I play ROB in singles still, though there are only 2 IC's players in texas now Hylian/Melee1, melee1 doesn't go to HOBO anymore and i don't usually play hylian in singles

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

If we have problems like the Link's and Ganon's then I suggest one of the panelists to just make a blog on smashboards about their decision and then post the address in the general chat thread.

If this gets locked for whatever reason like the others I'd suggest that.

 

[rathy Aro]

Since I got PM'd about it...

I'd be willing to be on the panel, but only if I get voted on in the first place.

I'm pretty sure people didn't vote for you cuz they didn't think you'd do it. Actually I'm suprised you would. =P Vote Ankoku!

edit: @red yru: I'm pretty sure there's no problem with this or else this thread would be locked by now.