Nintendevil
Smash Ace
A not pink body.The cruel truth that keeps me holding 64 and Brawl along with Melee.
What did Pichu have over him again?
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A not pink body.The cruel truth that keeps me holding 64 and Brawl along with Melee.
What did Pichu have over him again?
i'm seeing it too.Can this list really be "final"?
I predict that people will come back to melee; its already showing
As long as people continue to play melee and have tournaments, won't the metagame and the tier list continue to change?
lolFor the record
Mangos Falcon > ss > darkrain =D ( im half kidding )
I beat m2k at evo world
IN 1 Match where u at
he beat me at scc
i beat him at pound
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in 2 sets *****es
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on corneria
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*******s
lol =D
Kirby beats Pichu in head to head apparently xDThe cruel truth that keeps me holding 64 and Brawl along with Melee.
What did Kirby have over Pichu again?
Agrees. He might beat Pichu in a heads up matchup but that's probably the only good matchup he has (if infact its good for him at all lol). He just has NOTHING going for him. ****ty range, no projectile (don't be calling Final Cutter a projectile), very few usable moves, slow in the air, very little combo potential, a ****ty set of aerials, a HORENDOUSLY gimped recovery... I could rant on and on about this. The only positive aspect about him is Kirbycides, but guess how you get out of them? Fight Kirby in the middle of the stage and camp him out. Good bye Kirbykirby is the worst character in the game easily
Reaper combo, son (u-tilt x 5411896819152He just has NOTHING going for him. ****ty range, no projectile (don't be calling Final Cutter a projectile), very few usable moves, slow in the air, very little combo potential, a ****ty set of aerials, a HORENDOUSLY gimped recovery... I could rant on and on about this. The only positive aspect about him is Kirbycides, but guess how you get out of them? Fight Kirby in the middle of the stage and camp him out. Good bye Kirby
Way to list all of Kirby's bad attributes (yes, there are a lot of them) as if they're relevant to determining whether he's the worst characterAgrees. He might beat Pichu in a heads up matchup but that's probably the only good matchup he has (if infact its good for him at all lol). He just has NOTHING going for him. ****ty range, no projectile (don't be calling Final Cutter a projectile), very few usable moves, slow in the air, very little combo potential, a ****ty set of aerials, a HORENDOUSLY gimped recovery... I could rant on and on about this. The only positive aspect about him is Kirbycides, but guess how you get out of them? Fight Kirby in the middle of the stage and camp him out. Good bye Kirby
I disagree with that logic, I think it's way more important on how they do against the top tiers since those are the characters you will see more often. Now don't get me wrong, both characters get *****, but at least Pichu has some better combos on the spacies including a CG (Pichu main needs to confirm this), whereas Kirby just does not but get ***** against everyone.So name some matchups that Pichu actually does better in.
I can tell you as a fact that Pichu does not have a CG on the spacies. And Pichu doesn't have combos. At all. He has Uairs and you can't even juggle with them for more than 3 or 4 so you get like, 9 damage max from it.I disagree with that logic, I think it's way more important on how they do against the top tiers since those are the characters you will see more often. Now don't get me wrong, both characters get *****, but at least Pichu has some better combos on the spacies including a CG (Pichu main needs to confirm this), whereas Kirby just does not but get ***** against everyone.
Pichu has a projectile in the same sense that kirby does, in that it's slow, easily avoidable and useless, the only difference is Pichu's hurts him. Pichu's recovery is pretty predictable really, and deals anywhere from 4 to 15% to Pichu every time he uses it(Depending on which moves he uses) His smashes are anything but decent, they have obscenely low range and no real power. His Nair is spammable only because its his only decent move, and even then it's not that useful. It's easily readable and has such horrid range that any player with actual skill will be able to dodge/shield grab it. Pichu is a joke, anyone who thinks he's worth anything other than absolute bottom tier is insane(Yes, you too gimpy)pichu is better than kirby, lol
pichu has a good recovery and a projectile, a spammable as **** nair, and decent smashes and is like super fast, that's more than kirby can say lol
kirby literally has nothing aside from kirbycides and his uair and bair pretty much
The guides on the Pichu boards say that the upthrow can CG Fox, Falcon, and Falco. Not really sure for myself though since I don't play Pichu, but I've heard it mentioned before.I can tell you as a fact that Pichu does not have a CG on the spacies. And Pichu doesn't have combos. At all. He has Uairs and you can't even juggle with them for more than 3 or 4 so you get like, 9 damage max from it.
It does on Falcon at any percent. Fox at like 65% and Falco like 70%, but the amount of knockback the throw has horizontally from the DI is stupid so it only works for so long. LOLThe guides on the Pichu boards say that the upthrow can CG Fox, Falcon, and Falco. Not really sure for myself though since I don't play Pichu, but I've heard it mentioned before.
The CG can actually be teched so it doesn't work by Fox if I remember correctly.It does on Falcon at any percent. Fox at like 65% and Falco like 70%, but the amount of knockback the throw has horizontally from the DI is stupid so it only works for so long. LOL
Upsmash from pichu has some range (at the ****ing back of it >_>) and kills decently enough.
Really? cause like they would have to tech a good amount above the ground...but then again, I haven't tried too much with the cg cause it sucks anyway.The CG can actually be teched so it doesn't work by Fox if I remember correctly.
But they have hearts of gold.are u guys honestly talking
about kirby and pichu
LOL
they both sucks who cares
hahha
His smashes aren't horrible, the F-smash has some good power to it (can be DIed though) and the u-smash, although not great, isn't horrible either. Mango has a good point though, both these characters are too awful to discuss and are definitely the bottom two.Pichu has a projectile in the same sense that kirby does, in that it's slow, easily avoidable and useless, the only difference is Pichu's hurts him. Pichu's recovery is pretty predictable really, and deals anywhere from 4 to 15% to Pichu every time he uses it(Depending on which moves he uses) His smashes are anything but decent, they have obscenely low range and no real power. His Nair is spammable only because its his only decent move, and even then it's not that useful. It's easily readable and has such horrid range that any player with actual skill will be able to dodge/shield grab it. Pichu is a joke, anyone who thinks he's worth anything other than absolute bottom tier is insane(Yes, you too gimpy)
Don't ruin their one chancethen falco just dairs/utilts/ccs them out of anything they try to do and get comboed while they can't really do anything back
lol jeez guy chill. Of course YOU could make a similar argument for Pichu. But guess what? I can't. Why? I've never faced a good Pichu, couldn't tell you why he sucks, even though it's pretty obvious. You ever fight a good Kirby? I have, and after playing him I feel I can talk about how ****ty he does vs. pretty much anyone.Way to list all of Kirby's bad attributes (yes, there are a lot of them) as if they're relevant to determining whether he's the worst character
I mean you're acting like you couldn't just make a similiar paragraph trashing Pichu...
They both get ***** by mid+ tiers. I don't think that's really disputable. So it's really their matchups against bottom/low tiers that determine who's the worst, right?
So name some matchups that Pichu actually does better in.
Also since Gimpyfish is here, would you say Kirby or Pichu does better vs Bowser? >.>
beautiful description. lolUm, Kirby is a cute little pink (albeit useless) puffball? Is that better?
****, he is bad.According to both T!mmy and T0mmy Pichu is worse, this in my experience however is false, at reasonable levels of play Kirby is a worse character because he has no aerial or ground speed whatso ever, this coupled with the fact that he has barely more range than pichu makes him more predictable. Unfortunately for Kirby he is the only character in Melee who couldn't destroy the entire brawl roster.