Chis
Finally a legend
What do people mean by 'Chip' DI? What is it and what effect does it have?
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Official Link Question and Answer Thread
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Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
It's Chip's crazy DI he has. As in Deva's brother lol, it's not a term.
Kennahh
Smash Apprentice
Is it already known that a well-timed bomb cancels the D-air landing lag, while still allowing both the D-air and bomb to hit your foe? (causes 30 damage)
Yeah, but it's really hard to set up. It's very situational.
EDIT: I have a question. Sometimes I have a really hard time getting that final hit for the last KO. Any tips on this?
EDIT 2: Another question I have is, is there a sweetspot for the ftilt? Like does it perform better if hit near the tip versus the middle to hilt area?
EDIT: I have a question. Sometimes I have a really hard time getting that final hit for the last KO. Any tips on this?
EDIT 2: Another question I have is, is there a sweetspot for the ftilt? Like does it perform better if hit near the tip versus the middle to hilt area?
slickvic
Smash Apprentice
i have a question, well more like advice. As i play more, i notice that my edge game is really lacking. I usually dont try and edgeguard too much. At first I thought it was because I was scared of Link's terrible recovery, but then i realized, I dont know too many good techniques. I read the guides about edgeguarding, but maybe you guys are a little bit more insightful
You only asked, like, 10 last night. Give it a little time. XD
Ftilt hits just the same no matter where you strike it with. There's a me vs pit match on FD where I hit with the VERY tip of my blade, and it sends him just as far as it would normally.
Getting the final hit? Just punish when the opponent becomes predictable. Otherwise stick to racking up damage the way you normally do.
Dair when the opponent doesn't expect it, upB when the opponent rolls, dsmash when the opponent rolls or lands, uptilt if they are falling on you... It really is about tricking the opponent, 'cause Link can't just run up and expect to land a fsmash. Fortunately you've got lots of ways to trick the opponent.
Ftilt hits just the same no matter where you strike it with. There's a me vs pit match on FD where I hit with the VERY tip of my blade, and it sends him just as far as it would normally.
Getting the final hit? Just punish when the opponent becomes predictable. Otherwise stick to racking up damage the way you normally do.
Dair when the opponent doesn't expect it, upB when the opponent rolls, dsmash when the opponent rolls or lands, uptilt if they are falling on you... It really is about tricking the opponent, 'cause Link can't just run up and expect to land a fsmash. Fortunately you've got lots of ways to trick the opponent.
Sorry, 10:00 PM is what I meant. Gosh my typing skillz suck faces like the Kracken from Pirates of the Caribbean.
Yes, you are right, the other one was asked a while ago. And I was merely giving my opinion on that one, get Legan over here or something if you want a full-proof answer.
Yes, you are right, the other one was asked a while ago. And I was merely giving my opinion on that one, get Legan over here or something if you want a full-proof answer.
It seems we are running low on questions.
I'll ask one I guess. I am allowed to do so :D.
This is something I have struggled with for a while.
When using air attacks do you.
A. Use the C-Stick
B. Don't use C-Stick (Attack buttons + analog stick)
C. Use either/both depending on the situation.
Right now I find myself using both ( C ). Attack buttons can get me quicker areals so I use them coming off the ledge and for RARing. I sometimes use the C-Stick when I need more directional control or when I ZAC. However I sometimes to the wrong 1 when it comes to a certain situation.
What do you guys use and think is best.
What do you think is easiest?
It would also be great to discuss when it is appropriate to use one method over the other.
Give reasons why and explanations of where you stand.
I'll ask one I guess. I am allowed to do so :D.
This is something I have struggled with for a while.
When using air attacks do you.
A. Use the C-Stick
B. Don't use C-Stick (Attack buttons + analog stick)
C. Use either/both depending on the situation.
Right now I find myself using both ( C ). Attack buttons can get me quicker areals so I use them coming off the ledge and for RARing. I sometimes use the C-Stick when I need more directional control or when I ZAC. However I sometimes to the wrong 1 when it comes to a certain situation.
What do you guys use and think is best.
What do you think is easiest?
It would also be great to discuss when it is appropriate to use one method over the other.
Give reasons why and explanations of where you stand.
Metro Knight
Smash Ace
accidentally FFing is Link's number 1 cause of dieing when you could have DIed
I use both depending on the situation. The majority of the time, as in to say, using aerials normally, I use the control stick + A. However, if I want to do something a bit unorthodox, I'll use the C-stick.
For example, in that uncommon tricks vid by Dark M, where he shows the dair + bomb recovery edgeguarding, I use the C-stick because I can hold away from the stage while still doing a dair to get the max distance for edgeguarding. I've been considering using C-stick for ZACs since I have great difficulty with them as it is now.
Other than that, yeah, it's always control stick + A. The only other use I can think of for C-sticking aerials is to eliminate momentum, meaning like, you want to do a bair, but stay stationary and not move backwards. Also, retreating fairs need the C-stick.
I prefer control stick + A because I've always played like that, ever since melee. It's just a habit.
For example, in that uncommon tricks vid by Dark M, where he shows the dair + bomb recovery edgeguarding, I use the C-stick because I can hold away from the stage while still doing a dair to get the max distance for edgeguarding. I've been considering using C-stick for ZACs since I have great difficulty with them as it is now.
Other than that, yeah, it's always control stick + A. The only other use I can think of for C-sticking aerials is to eliminate momentum, meaning like, you want to do a bair, but stay stationary and not move backwards. Also, retreating fairs need the C-stick.
I prefer control stick + A because I've always played like that, ever since melee. It's just a habit.
So like
If i wanted to play gay and completely control my opponent with projectiles and spacing tools.. is this the character i need to pick up? ^_^
If i wanted to play gay and completely control my opponent with projectiles and spacing tools.. is this the character i need to pick up? ^_^
AeroLink_the_SoulMaster
Let's rock, baby!
If you're talking about Falco, then yes.
Nah, that'd be Toon Link. If you want to play a character that makes your opponents go WTH HOW'D I LOSE when you beat them, this is the character you need.
TL can camp better? Even with less range on his jab and z-air?
Very well, that's all i needed to know really.
Link is still cooler though >_>
Link is still cooler though >_>
4Serial
Smash Lord
Link is MUCH more fun to play than TL
TL bores the **** out of me and has very little depth to him imo
TL bores the **** out of me and has very little depth to him imo
Matt07
Smash Master
So umm question, If you do your Forward air, and move toward the opponent while doing the move, will both 'slashes' hits? I've done it in training mode, and wanted to know if it depends if your opponent DI's.
I'm not sure really, I used to have a problem where I could never land the second hit (I'd always go too forward and they'd end up behind me).
I fixed it by holding forward during the first slash, then nothing during the second slash. Dunno what works for C-stick though. I use control stick + A.
I fixed it by holding forward during the first slash, then nothing during the second slash. Dunno what works for C-stick though. I use control stick + A.
Metro Knight
Smash Ace
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Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Question: Why was I dragged out down to Phillie and away from a computer? I'm on a MacBook at the Apples store right now. What have I missed? I'm getting back on Saturday afternoon. See ya soon guys. 
Atleast the pretzels are good.
Atleast the pretzels are good.
Question: What exactly is the timing for links boost smash? I almost always end up just grabbing. It seems like I can only get it when I'm playing really competitively. I cant just do it on command. Like I can only get it when i'm not thinking about it.
It just requires practice, really. Try to evenly space out the inputs of the control stick, C-stick, and Z button. If you grab, it means you're not giving enough time for the dash attack to initiate. You should press upZ just as you see the beginning of Link's dash attack.
It really is timing. Try training mode.
If you do it to fast OR too slow you will end up putting in a dash attack/grab.
If you want, I will get frame data for you......Just give me the word.
NintenJoe
Smash Ace
you have frame data????? The Link boards need it, Swordplay, don't be keeping it all for yourself now...
You have FRAME DATA!?!
Yes, much needed, GIVE TO US...
Shady, the best thing I can tell you is go to Hyrule Temple in training mode, zoom up on Link, and then just go back and forth trying to do it. Make a record, like you have to do it 10 times in a row. It improved my ability to do the DAC when I wanted from 10% of the time to 60%.
I still suck miserably though.
Yes, much needed, GIVE TO US...
Shady, the best thing I can tell you is go to Hyrule Temple in training mode, zoom up on Link, and then just go back and forth trying to do it. Make a record, like you have to do it 10 times in a row. It improved my ability to do the DAC when I wanted from 10% of the time to 60%.
I still suck miserably though.
Oddler
Smash Journeyman
I modified my controller to make the Z button set to "Attack" so that DAC is less punishable in case you screw it up and throw out your Hookshot. I instantly felt that when I switched these buttons around from using Z as a Throw to DAC...that I lost tons of sliding momentum.
Sliding half a screen with Z set to throw seems harder to do when Z is set to attack. What are your thoughts on this assumption.
Sliding half a screen with Z set to throw seems harder to do when Z is set to attack. What are your thoughts on this assumption.
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14. Link players have lives. We are sorry if we cannot answer your question right away. We will get to it as soon as possible. Even if we have to research.
I do not have frame DATA but As rule 14 states. I will research is since you are all so eager to know it.
I will get back to you on this and put it in FAQ!!!!!!
you have frame data????? The Link boards need it, Swordplay, don't be keeping it all for yourself now...
14. Link players have lives. We are sorry if we cannot answer your question right away. We will get to it as soon as possible. Even if we have to research.
I do not have frame DATA but As rule 14 states. I will research is since you are all so eager to know it.
I will get back to you on this and put it in FAQ!!!!!!
Kikuichimonji
Smash Apprentice
I play with all initial controls except that tapjump is off, and I don't really ever end up grabbing. I'm pretty sure it's all in your head. However, the dash attack is less punishable than the grab if you DO mess up.
DJKingDavid
Smash Apprentice
I read page after page of these LINK questions...i think theres NO WAY LINK is bottem tier...any CHAR that can cause 100%+ in 15 secs...and has THAT many KO moves...must be near tha top...IMO LINK is quickest KO of all...next to META-KNIGHT(cheap ****er)...good combo is Dthrow+upsmash+Spinslash...n followed by spacing...i like to let my opponent think he can get a smash in then Dair him...i look forward to smashin u SWORDPLAY, DEVA, and any otherz!!! -ThaKing
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
1. Wrong thread.
2. I've never seen anyone, pro or not, in an actual match do 100+ damage. Maybe HRC but no one has done that. And Link is a terrible character. Saying he's broken is like saying Chuck Norris is as strong as God. He's way stronger. So please, don't talk about Link like he's actually good. He's bottom because of slowness and terrible recovery. And some other stuff.
2. I've never seen anyone, pro or not, in an actual match do 100+ damage. Maybe HRC but no one has done that. And Link is a terrible character. Saying he's broken is like saying Chuck Norris is as strong as God. He's way stronger. So please, don't talk about Link like he's actually good. He's bottom because of slowness and terrible recovery. And some other stuff.
AeroLink_the_SoulMaster
Let's rock, baby!
Mostly the recovery, btw.
DJKingDavid
Smash Apprentice
u mean recovery on edges? or recovery from attacks? or recovery from doin an attack? or what?!
also u dont think LINK cud rack up damaged that fast? are u ****in kiddin me...mayb im so used to melee...i need to see how much he changed on BRAWL...but i played with him a few times...seems like tha same old LINK to me...
also u dont think LINK cud rack up damaged that fast? are u ****in kiddin me...mayb im so used to melee...i need to see how much he changed on BRAWL...but i played with him a few times...seems like tha same old LINK to me...
DJKingDavid
Smash Apprentice
accidental spam...****in forum
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