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if it's just different people considering the same things then tier list should be the same and there's not much of a point in having an EU tier list :/
I think G&W does reasonably well in Europe.
This has been carefully considered. Decided was not to do it.
Maybe you just underestimate diddy?
You think it's a bad list even though you don't know our metagame?
No, you guys overestimate him. He isn't even in the S rank in European Tourney Results.
That, or you underestimate him. Guess which one is more likely?
There's enough of em compared to other characters.
Probably not that many...but we stick to the data, cuz we're in fact done with the list
I think it's bad from a North American point of view. Like I said in the post, since I lack knowledge of the European metagame, I can't really complain. Of course it's going to be different.
Oh I fully agreeI thinkand
. But Leon and Yami probably struck the hearts of a lot the voters with pure love............................................you know what, just nevermind.
Results(which, btw, are part of what makes a tier list) would suggest you.That, or you underestimate him. Guess which one is more likely?
Enough to compare, but not surpass.
Hitting backspace a few times isn't hard. We can pretend like this never happened. You're basically saying that we should stick to the results that puts him in his own tier because of wrong reasons ("Diddy is definetly 2nd, since we all agree on this more than who's going to be 3rd, then he's worthy of his own tier, YEAH")Probably not that many...but we stick to the data, cuz we're in fact done with the list
Also, note to all: We already have a thread that keeps record of tourneyplacings. This is a TIERLIST.
Under the assumption that diddy and other top tiers have equally skilled players (best case scenario for your argument), the character considered best comes out on top: Diddy.
That's just the way it works...Tiers were decided by gaps in average placing. Many, many ppl placed diddy 2nd, while 3rd place was hotly contended,therefore he gets his own tier.
I'm not stupid.
....see about that
what results anyway?
gheb always has something to say most of us stopped caring.
No, I'm just realistic. GaW is just kinda bad, although I have to say I underrated him before (just a bit), so he's higher on my list than I previously thought he should be. With a stagelist that includes Brinstar/RC I might put him even higher though, dunno.
I know of the awesome results of Trela and Junebug (and Lee M., even Azen...), but frankly I just really had problems putting characters together and didn't know where to put almost all of them. You shouldn't take my list that accurately... characters could be switched around some spots (although not all of them xD).
A tierlist isn't there to show how our results are. It's to show what we think about how good the characters (with our ruleset) are... so it doesn't necessarily show how our metagame is, although results are surely taken into account at least a little.
Too lazy after opening it 3 times and reading about this after.
I understand, and respect your opinion. I just don't see GaWs greatness myself though. :/
Can you explain why
is lower then at least...? Based on being legal and having better matchups and results then in Europe, I don't see how she is higher then him. Semifer has always brought in amazing results and I have not seen a equivalent in Europe. T also has usually brought in good results even if he uses more 
/ then his .
Leon had better results than the Wolfs with Peach... although he did use Marth too a bit, but mostly against MKs. He still would've outplaced any Wolfs...Can you explain why
Correct me if I'm wrong.
