Official BBR Tier List v7

[Luco]

I guess whether or not PS2 saw competitive acceptance, there's enough people with an opinion on it for you to probably ask your opponent to play on a 'non-legal' stage (i.e. PS2 in this case), then let the TO/s know and play on the stage...

Heh heh, i've always wanted to do that. See a GF or be in a GF (never mind the practicality of that! >_>) and have the match on like, Onett or Rumble Falls or Temple or something else silly like that and just kinda mix things up a little.

 

[Shaya]

That kinda ****s with momentum though

It's how tennis works.

And tennis is pretty much the physical version of brawl.
Or the physical version of most 2D fighters in terms of rules.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Tennis doesn't have a "neutral" though, both players can't serve first game.

 

[The Star King]

I actually think Ping Pong is the most similar sport to competitive video games. Tennis is second though (there should be more 1v1 or 2v2 sports)

 

[Shaya]

Tennis doesn't have a "neutral" though, both players can't serve first game.

The neutral would be a tie-breaker.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Oh yeah, forgot about that haha

Still, I don't see why it's a better method than neutral first, counterpicks after?

 

[Raziek]

Because if you can win on your opponent's CP and your own, why bother with a starter?

 

[Shaya]

Well, the way I want to do a tournament in the future is instead of "best ofs" it's "need to win two matches in a row" (i.e. break the opponent's serve/stage choice) with the hard *** version of dave's stupid rule.

Also @ what raziek said.

Having the 'neutral' last like that will probably lead to more stage choices being seen and a bit more hype due to those things (like omg they're 1-1! and now it's no one's advantage for the last match)

 

[Life]

It's arguably the advantage of whoever has the momentum going in

 

[Tesh]

Nothing wrong at all with doing neutral first. The only thing even arguably better is having all 3 games played with character CPs only and striking to neutral every game.

Its just dumb to randomly let someone CP first. Not everything needs to be changed folks.

 

[Luco]

Well, the way I want to do a tournament in the future is instead of "best ofs" it's "need to win two matches in a row" (i.e. break the opponent's serve/stage choice) with the hard *** version of dave's stupid rule.

Time constraints prevent that though, don't they? Wouldn't two players of roughly even-ish skill, perfectly CP-ing one another just have their games go on for ages?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

If TOs were more diligent, it'd be fine.

 

[Tesh]

You could do win by 2 in a 1 stock ruleset, but there is always the possibility of things going on alot longer than you planned.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Why do we still allow the winner to character counterpick?

 

[infiniteV115]

Because if you bothered to learn how to use multiple characters at a decent level you should be able to benefit from that.

Unless you mean that the winner should choose their next char, then the loser chooses stage + their char, but that'd probably be way too strong a CP

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

my posts are always incorrect views on things that don't matter and i don't succeed in making people agree with me, and i've never done anything to advance my character's metagame

wow really? im responsible for around 7+ discoveries and ATs with my character and usually succeed in my goal to troll when posting. but keep posting man, someday you won't be wrong (don't take that to heart tho)

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Those ATs have amounted to exactly jack **** and succeeding at trolling is like the little kid who uses cheat codes and leaves the game running to accumulate points; immature, misguided and meaningless

 

[da K.I.D.]

Most people only FLSS game 1, because otherwise the more polar stages never see play.

I proposed a system a while back that went something like:

character selection
stage bans from the full list
counterpick selection
strike remaining stages to find game 1 stage
go to counterpicks for remaining games

Thats how i did it at the tournament Pidge was refering to.

And Luco, there is something called the Gentlemans clause, where you can counterpick to any stage in the game you want ads long as the other person agrees to it.

 

[Z'zgashi]

The difference between Tennis and Smash is that theres only one court per tournament, and a whole list of stages for Smash, due to that they can put the Tiebreaker at the end and not need to deal with it unless they need to. Smash however, doesnt have the option to even the stakes game 1 while assuring an even game 3 or 5 , so the best way to make the game as even as possible for game 1 is to allow both players to strike down to the last stage (whether it be FLSS or just a Starter list) and have blind character pick.

 

[Peachy-Desu]

*does FLSS*

*ends up on SV anyways*

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

wow really? im responsible for around 7+ discoveries and ATs with my character and usually succeed in my goal to troll when posting. but keep posting man, someday you won't be wrong (don't take that to heart tho)

1. wrong
2. who cares
3. you're drunk

 

[Luco]

And Luco, there is something called the Gentlemans clause, where you can counterpick to any stage in the game you want ads long as the other person agrees to it.

Yeah that's what I meant a few posts ago, forgot the name of it when I was explaining it. I think it would be awesome if that happened in the GFs of something large. <3

 

[Shaya]

Everyone would assume they were sandbagging after splitting.

 

[-LzR-]

Why exactly do we even have counterpicks and starters anymore? The "neutral" stage is 100% MU dependent.

 

[infiniteV115]

Why are people still responding to Maharba -_-

 

[SoulPech]

why hasn't gheb posted his response from like a month ago >.>. Did ppl already forget that.

 

[-LzR-]

We never forget.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

...?

 

[Delta-cod]

We demand Mewtwo.

 

[Life]

Was wondering if it'd come up again. LOL

 

[Raziek]

We demand Mewtwo.

Never forget.

#DMG #therockiscookinupanasswhoopin'

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Mewtwo can be countered by various OUs in 386 and at least should have been tried out. This isn't the thread for it though.

 

[Luxdabob]

I'm gonna have to start taking for advantage of Olimar then....

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Why are people still responding to Maharba -_-

Good point. I mean, "no one likes you?" Really? Are we in fourth grade?

 

[Seagull Joe]

The more important matter is that the new Dbz movie is coming out in March.

 

[1PokeMastr]

That and Legend of Korra.

 

[da K.I.D.]

Why exactly do we even have counterpicks and starters anymore? The "neutral" stage is 100% MU dependent.

The realest of talk.
I do this at all my tournaments now.

 

[RaptorTEC]

The realest of talk.
I do this at all my tournaments now.

Your tournaments suck. With that said I look forward to seeing you at your next tournament.

 

[Dekillsage]

They're not neutral stages, they're starter stages. You strike to end up on your "Neutral" stage. I don't think doing FLSS would be a bad thing though. Both are good.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

Why are people still responding to Maharba -_-

because amidst all the trolling i do when i actually feel inclined to post on a real topic with a serious attitude im never wrong.

and besides if im not around to fan flames to certain fires no conflicts will ever start in this thread and that is just plain boring.

sfp sucks