Can't you tech out of it at anytime?
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OFFICIAL AZ Power Rankings & Social Thread (Updated: 11/27/13)
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KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
No. That's impossible.
But you pretty much deserved to be infinity'd if you can't get out of 3-4 USmash's from Falco
But you pretty much deserved to be infinity'd if you can't get out of 3-4 USmash's from Falco
xyouxarexuglyx2
Smash Lord
btw, has anyone ever seen those high gravity Brawl videos? It looks so... normal... by Melee standards anyway lol.I wish I felt that brawl-handjob feeling when I played the game
Also, has anyone found out why tripping happens yet? (outside of randomness)
Elysium
Smash Lord
After the 4th up-Smash when Sheik hits the ground, if you don't tech that there's no way out of it.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
Nope.
It only happens out of randomnnes from running in different directions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44_QlNezWj8
Rang Flash
Smash Journeyman
I bet sakurai thought that adding random tripping would be a good idea because it adds random "fun"
Rang Flash
Smash Journeyman
high gravity mode would suck for brawl because there's no l-canceling
On the bright side, it's relatively hard to be punished for tripping. Since it's random you can't really watch for it, and it also gives you invincibility when it happens. It also seems to have a fairly low frequency.
Seriously though... I really have to question the development team's judgment on this one. Include a random mechanic that interferes with gameplay that has no precondition other than trying to initiate horizontal motion? Include this mechanic with no way to turn it off or control it? Super lame
It seems like the kind of thing that could happen at clutch moments in tournament finals and give the match to one player over another for no reason.
Seriously though... I really have to question the development team's judgment on this one. Include a random mechanic that interferes with gameplay that has no precondition other than trying to initiate horizontal motion? Include this mechanic with no way to turn it off or control it? Super lame
It seems like the kind of thing that could happen at clutch moments in tournament finals and give the match to one player over another for no reason.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
The sad thing is that I don't think they'll take it out in future versions of the game because like Rang said, it was just some gimmicky "fun" addition to the game.On the bright side, it's relatively hard to be punished for tripping. Since it's random you can't really watch for it, and it also gives you invincibility when it happens. It also seems to have a fairly low frequency.
Seriously though... I really have to question the development team's judgment on this one. Include a random mechanic that interferes with gameplay that has no precondition other than trying to initiate horizontal motion? Include this mechanic with no way to turn it off or control it? Super lame
It seems like the kind of thing that could happen at clutch moments in tournament finals and give the match to one player over another for no reason.
brawl was fun and i can see it being competitive in some ways
ya there is no cancel so far but so what?
people have only had it for a week
plus, only the **** have it, most of AMERICA has yet to spend time on it
so i dont understand all the complaining
and
in my opinion i think lights post was out of anger and shouldnt be taken all the way into consideration
yes things said were true but its was put negatively
i think that he is just mad that 4th in state is something he can so far no longer hold
we are all on the same level of play so its up for grabs by anyone,noob or "pro"
i can understand why,if i was that good and suddenly became the same as everone else ya i guess i would be mad too
when i was playing forward i almost beat him
the match was even to the last stock(only two), we were both in the 150s and he had 3 days on me so he won with a few mindgames
so thats why i say that light is just angry and that we are on the same playing field
and i mean no harm in any of this to light
im just speaking my opinion
no johns?
ya there is no cancel so far but so what?
people have only had it for a week
plus, only the **** have it, most of AMERICA has yet to spend time on it
so i dont understand all the complaining
and
in my opinion i think lights post was out of anger and shouldnt be taken all the way into consideration
yes things said were true but its was put negatively
i think that he is just mad that 4th in state is something he can so far no longer hold
we are all on the same level of play so its up for grabs by anyone,noob or "pro"
i can understand why,if i was that good and suddenly became the same as everone else ya i guess i would be mad too
when i was playing forward i almost beat him
the match was even to the last stock(only two), we were both in the 150s and he had 3 days on me so he won with a few mindgames
so thats why i say that light is just angry and that we are on the same playing field
and i mean no harm in any of this to light
im just speaking my opinion
no johns?
forward
Smash Champion
I think tripping is to give the game a random element the players can't control. Poker players deal with it, why can't we?
Sizzle
I paint controllers
Poker is a game based on luck. The skill in the game comes from reading people. Smash is based more on skill than Poker, I would argue.
-Ka-
Smash Journeyman
Thats actually not a bad way of looking at it, Sean.
For better or worse tripping in really just a random element. Like the cloud in Yoshi Story.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
Beam Swords are less game-breaking than tripping and getting pwned thereafter.
I, myself, don't like tripping too. <_<
I don't like the philosophy behind the decision to put tripping in. It's an explicit attempt to make the game non-competitive. It's probably not game-breaking, but it doesn't bode well for other things of that nature.
xyouxarexuglyx2
Smash Lord
Have you ever played Light with a beamsword?
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
Light_
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Hey Pokey, no I'm not mad about "not gonna be 4th in AZ anymore" I don't know where you got that from. Maybe I'm mad because Sakarai put stupid things like tripping in, ever think of that? Of course everyone's first reaction when playing the game will be different and that was how I felt when I first played it. Now that I've had more time to think about it yes it can be a competitive game but excuse me for being angry because of random factors like tripping. Other things I said in my post were merely my spectulation on the game, doesn't mean it's true or not.
I'm not trying to come off as rude here so I'll say I'm trying to explain myself right now. I just don't like how you said I'm mad about not being 4th anymore.
I'm not trying to come off as rude here so I'll say I'm trying to explain myself right now. I just don't like how you said I'm mad about not being 4th anymore.
pntchandler
Smash Rookie
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SmashFest March 8-9 @ PlayNTrade Chandler
Smashers,
This is Val, owner of Play N Trade in Chandler. We're back with some exciting Smash events coming your way.
We're planning a March 9, Sunday Midnight release of Brawl. What does it mean for you? First of all,
Everyone who pre-orders Brawl from us will receive it at MIDNIGHT, March 9th. and get 5% off the cost. Assuming Nintendo does not change the date again. Why preorder from us? How about some ASU, UAT, Collins math.
$48.99 (base price) - $5 (down preorder) = $53.99 - (5% off) = $51.29
Now, on to the best part. During this time we're hosting a 12 hour SmashFEST. This will consist of
SSB64, SSBM, & ofcourse SSBB Tournaments.
We have not decided if these will be Single or double, but I need your opinions.
The prizes will be very cool. Nintendo Wii, copies of Brawl, swag.
Since it takes place from 6pm-6am, we've looking into providing food and drinks. Also, perhaps some discounts with local restuarants.
Fee will probably be in the range of $20 per person.
Let me know how and/or what I should do to get things to run smoothly. Our previous tourneys went very well.
We'll probably get somthing finalized within a week. Thanks.
Smashers,
This is Val, owner of Play N Trade in Chandler. We're back with some exciting Smash events coming your way.
We're planning a March 9, Sunday Midnight release of Brawl. What does it mean for you? First of all,
Everyone who pre-orders Brawl from us will receive it at MIDNIGHT, March 9th. and get 5% off the cost. Assuming Nintendo does not change the date again. Why preorder from us? How about some ASU, UAT, Collins math.
$48.99 (base price) - $5 (down preorder) = $53.99 - (5% off) = $51.29
Now, on to the best part. During this time we're hosting a 12 hour SmashFEST. This will consist of
SSB64, SSBM, & ofcourse SSBB Tournaments.
We have not decided if these will be Single or double, but I need your opinions.
The prizes will be very cool. Nintendo Wii, copies of Brawl, swag.
Since it takes place from 6pm-6am, we've looking into providing food and drinks. Also, perhaps some discounts with local restuarants.
Fee will probably be in the range of $20 per person.
Let me know how and/or what I should do to get things to run smoothly. Our previous tourneys went very well.
We'll probably get somthing finalized within a week. Thanks.
Oh, man. Playing Smash64, Melee, AND Brawl on laggy TV's? That'd be just too good.
But I'm sure you know that March 9th is the shipping date for Brawl. Not the date it actually gets to you. Are you positive that you'll be getting it in time, let alone at midnight? Most stores are saying they won't have it until the 10th, or late on the 9th at best.
But I'm sure you know that March 9th is the shipping date for Brawl. Not the date it actually gets to you. Are you positive that you'll be getting it in time, let alone at midnight? Most stores are saying they won't have it until the 10th, or late on the 9th at best.
AltF4Warrior, yes i go to ASU, sorry about making a new thread. I'm pretty sure March 9th is the "release" date, NOT the ship date. Most places I've checked said they will have it in store on march 9th.....thats usually how it is. the actual ship date is probably march 1st-ish.
Nicknyte
Smash Lord
About tripping - Nicknyte's Impression
Forward once told me to play faster. WELL GUESS WHO SLIPPED. :D
Forward once told me to play faster. WELL GUESS WHO SLIPPED. :D
Cool, yawg! What are you studying? I'm a CompSci senior. Other ASU smashers include Goop (getting a BA in Business something-or-other) and Wobbles (creative writing). Look for acticles by Rob Wright in the State Press! Oh, and Taj goes to ASU, but he pretty much only plays WoW nowadays.
Anywho: Nintendo (almost always) doesn't do release dates, they do shipping dates. Unless this is some kind of exception that I'm not aware of, March 9th is the date that Brawl gets shipped to stores from Nintendo, and stores are able to put them on the shelves as soon as they arrive.
Most other games have release dates. Meaning that the stores get the game as much as a week in advance, but are only allowed to sell them on the release date.
EDIT: Oh, and there's a tournament going on today at 3 if you want to try to make it. It's called Devastation. You can get details in the Tournament Listing section.
Anywho: Nintendo (almost always) doesn't do release dates, they do shipping dates. Unless this is some kind of exception that I'm not aware of, March 9th is the date that Brawl gets shipped to stores from Nintendo, and stores are able to put them on the shelves as soon as they arrive.
Most other games have release dates. Meaning that the stores get the game as much as a week in advance, but are only allowed to sell them on the release date.
EDIT: Oh, and there's a tournament going on today at 3 if you want to try to make it. It's called Devastation. You can get details in the Tournament Listing section.
thats just how i saw it
but whatevs man its all good
AXE 09
Smash Master
someone should seriously host a tourney in tucson
pntchandler
Smash Rookie
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AltF4,
March 9th is a Sunday and the official street date. Anytime there is a strict STREET DATE, like Halo or Madden, I get the games a few days early but can't put it out for sale until the specified date. I'll probably receive them on Friday, March 7th. When others say they will not receive until later in the day, they're lying. I had Halo 3 a week before it was released.
As for laggy TVs, hopefully Brawl solved that one.
pntchandler
Smash Rookie
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Alt,
Not every store buys from Nintendo. I don't have an account with them. I don't have the buying power to get 10000000000000000 copies that they require. So I go through distribution. I get mine via UPS or FedEX shipping. This excludes weekends. Most stores, Best Buy, Target, Walmart, get their deliveries to their warehouse and then shipped to their local stores. When Target tells you that they get Wiis on Sunday, in actuality it's Friday but it does not come in on Truck until Saturday evening.
95% of games are not street dated, unfortunate for me. They have a release date but that usually chages when a store has a special deal with a manufacturer that allows them to sell it a few days before others.
Elysium
Smash Lord
Cool, I already have the game "pre-ordered" at a ghetto Gamecrazy by my old house but being at your store for a trny could sway me to (re)pre-order.
It won't. The Wii outputs in 480p at max, your TV's have a native resolution higher than that. (Probably 1080p, but maybe 720p) You get upscaling lag. Brawl will still lag on HDTV's, unfortunately.As for laggy TVs, hopefully Brawl solved that one.
But thanks for the info on the release date. Maybe the other stores (*cough* Gamestop *cough*) were just trying to protect themselves in case it comes late? I dunno.
Yawg: Ooh, quantum physics. Does that make you a Physics major or a Chemistry major perhaps?
Alt, i'm a biochem phd student, i'm just taking quantum for, well, fun. I've taken quantum in the past and I wanted to expand my knowledge of it. I did my undergraduate at Illinois State University and graduated with a bachelors of science in chemistry and biochemistry. yea, i'm a big nerd, but I play rugby too so i guess that evens it out a lil. when u guys wanna get together for smash?
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
I need more mindgames.
Then I'll play perfectly.
Then I'll play perfectly.
Yes this needs to happen.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
pntchandler
Smash Rookie
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Gamestop is definitely protecting themselves. Not from the release dates or a change in the date but rather from over-preorders. They tend to pre-order too much and can't deliver.