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OFFICIAL AZ Power Rankings & Social Thread (Updated: 11/27/13)

GamerGuitarist7

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i can be black.

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edit/ **** the censors
 

TommyDerMeister

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I want to learn Ice Climbers, Sheik or Falco.

My Falcon does alright.

Also, Jackie: We got 3rd in that round robin saturday, Lvl.9 Ganon filled in for you. He got the heel on someone.
 

KosukeKGA

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RE4 had more memorable stuff in it. Novelty didn't wear off for quite a while. RE5 felt like "just another video game".
 

AltF4

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Yahtzee said that RE4 was better, too. And from what I've seen so far I could believe it. The demo was a bit of a letdown. But I haven't yet played the full game.

And everyone knows that Yahtzee speaks nothing but the truth.
 

KosukeKGA

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Well, I'll tell everyone what I think:

-Lame bosses
-New Game+ ruins higher difficulties
-Not enough cheesy lines/VA/actions
-Sheva's AI
-Chapter Select and being able to carry all your items with you to any playthrough ruins the challenge.
-The Item Inventory works differently...and while it is more reflecting of that of the old RE's, the Attache Cache was still better.
-QTE Deaths aren't as gruesome as 4. Dying in general just wasn't up to par with RE4.
-Mercenaries only has 4 characters. >_>
 

Rubyiris

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Smash irritates me more and more every time I play it. After smashing from like 2:30~3:00-ish, to about 11:00 PM, I won a total of 5 games. 4 of which Chris was stoned, so it hardly counts. Me and Chris played non-stop for about an hour and a half, with games not taking longer than 3 minutes. A friend, and Jackie arrived, so I played every 10 miniutes or so, until we decided to play doubles. I managed to win some games vs Plenip, but all they ever do is sandbag, so again it hardly counts. Around 6, we got dinner, then went back and did singles again where I played every 10 minutes or so until Shiv and a friend showed up, to where I started to play around every 20 minutes or so. Throughout the entire day, I managed to beat Chris's Falcon with for 4 times with Fox while he was stoned, and his Fox once with Falco, only because he kept messing up his edge guarding, and allowed me onto the stage way too many times. I always ask advice on what to do, and I always incorperate the advice, but nothing ever changes. I usually know what I should to, at most times vs most characters on most stages, but it doesn't matter if either I don't execute it properly, or I just lose regardless of how well I play. Another thing that pisses me off about who I play with is I'm hardly ever given props, or complimented when I do something right. It's like the entire Tucson crew roots against me whenever I play. It's even worse in SV or Phoenix, since now I've got both Tucson, and SV/Phx against me. It's extremely demoralizing when all that matters is how many mistakes my opponent made, and not how well I executed my techniques, or how well I punished his mistakes. Rusty is a bit different, since he tried to learn from me, and Chris occasionally gives me props, but otherwise I hardly get any acknowledgment, and it's very depressing.

tl;dr:

I ****ing suck, and I'm tired of it./

I'm tired of not having any support in-game. It's depressing and only makes me play worse.
 

maXXXpower

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Smash irritates me more and more every time I play it. After smashing from like 2:30~3:00-ish, to about 11:00 PM, I won a total of 5 games. 4 of which Chris was stoned, so it hardly counts. Me and Chris played non-stop for about an hour and a half, with games not taking longer than 3 minutes. A friend, and Jackie arrived, so I played every 10 miniutes or so, until we decided to play doubles. I managed to win some games vs Plenip, but all they ever do is sandbag, so again it hardly counts. Around 6, we got dinner, then went back and did singles again where I played every 10 minutes or so until Shiv and a friend showed up, to where I started to play around every 20 minutes or so. Throughout the entire day, I managed to beat Chris's Falcon with for 4 times with Fox while he was stoned, and his Fox once with Falco, only because he kept messing up his edge guarding, and allowed me onto the stage way too many times. I always ask advice on what to do, and I always incorperate the advice, but nothing ever changes. I usually know what I should to, at most times vs most characters on most stages, but it doesn't matter if either I don't execute it properly, or I just lose regardless of how well I play. Another thing that pisses me off about who I play with is I'm hardly ever given props, or complimented when I do something right. It's like the entire Tucson crew roots against me whenever I play. It's even worse in SV or Phoenix, since now I've got both Tucson, and SV/Phx against me. It's extremely demoralizing when all that matters is how many mistakes my opponent made, and not how well I executed my techniques, or how well I punished his mistakes. Rusty is a bit different, since he tried to learn from me, and Chris occasionally gives me props, but otherwise I hardly get any acknowledgment, and it's very depressing.

tl;dr:

I ****ing suck, and I'm tired of it./

I'm tired of not having any support in-game. It's depressing and only makes me play worse.
you're a cool guy.
 

Tee ay eye

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LOL
(3:43:19 PM) PrrettyMango69: taj plays gay
(3:43:23 PM) xroflmaowtfx: LOL
(3:43:23 PM) PrrettyMango69: if we played in tourney
(3:43:25 PM) xroflmaowtfx: he uses mewtwo
(3:43:27 PM) PrrettyMango69: would of camped with grabs
(3:43:28 PM) PrrettyMango69: and lasers
(3:43:41 PM) xroflmaowtfx: hes mewtwo
(3:43:49 PM) xroflmaowtfx: no johns
(3:43:58 PM) PrrettyMango69: no johns
(3:44:01 PM) PrrettyMango69: till he plays him gay
 

AltF4

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Yea, it's part of good gaming etiquette to give your opponent constructive advice or criticism when it's due. If you are winning 95% of games over a long period of time, it's only polite to offer them some advice. Not to just keep the beatings coming with no help. That's just mean. And not productive, either.
 

jetfour

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I only give props for offstage Falcon Punches and other shenanigans. Props don't really matter anyways, you just need self-confidence (which you can get on your own).

When I tell you things like "grab more", it would be foolish to expect to suddenly win significantly more often against people that are still more talented. The wins aren't there yet, but they're getting closer. You didn't jot down your percentage/stock count after every match back and then so you don't have any figures to gauge your progress, but I already told you that you've gotten better.

You also need to take into consideration that the other people have gotten better as well. If they're improving at the same pace as you and you're measuring your progress by comparison, it will seem like you haven't gotten better at all. Naturally, some people learn faster so the gap widens between you two, but don't interpret that as you getting worse. Measure your progress by your own changes in habits, not just by the difference in win count.

Don't john yourself out of wins. People don't make mistakes just because. They make them because you put enough pressure on them so they choke.

Also, don't use words like "never, always, entire, none, no matter, regardless, etc.", those words of generalization are basically autoflame. Saying **** like "nothing ever changes" is bull. The results aren't dramatically different, but they are there.

Finally, don't respond with a "I already knew that" when people are giving you advice, even it's just part of it. You have a habit of that. I know that you do it so that people don't repeat themselves, but it can come off as rude and unappreciative to a lot of people.

Some words of zen or whatever bull**** people want to call it that I'm sure you've heard before: drop the negative attitude. How often do you see me mad and frustrated after a match? Be able to laugh after if illusion off the stage by accident or unintentionally fastfall a dair of the stage. If you're more laid back about your learning, you can focus better and not be clouded by frustration and whatnot.

Sorry if I came of sounding like an ******* or whatever. I worded whatever points I need to get across as straightforward as I could so you wouldn't have to read a massive wall of text. Don't take any of it personally or offensively if it comes off that way.
 

Rubyiris

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Even if I've gotten better, it's just not enough to make any difference, especially since everyone else is improving much quicker than I am. In that sense, It doesn't make any difference, since I'm not getting any closer to winning. Close only matters in horse shoes and hand grenades, and Melee isn't either.

To me, what is important is playing well, and being acknowledged for it, and winning against a non-sandbagging opponent. I'm hardly given any props or acknoledgement whether or not I play bad, and it's always my faults that are pointed out, rather than my positive points, and I'm nearly always rooted against, which makes things more depressing for me.

People do make mistakes just because. I have poor pressure, and spend more time in shield than attacking because I'M the one who is intimidated into playing defensively. I'm not forcing any mistakes out of people when I play, they're just simply playing badly just because, and those are the only opportunities I get to attack. If I felt that my pressure brought about their mistakes, I wouldn't complain about it, since it would fall under the "playing well" category.

I do write alot of advice as "I already know about it/already do it." because that's often how it is, and are already actively trying to change it. The things I'm told constantly are "mix up your approach, and mix up your return." Things I've noticed myself are that I have exceptionally poor spacing. Especially on spacing my shines on Falco. I hardly hit any shines when I think they will, and when I think they won't, I u-tilt instead, when a shine would have been the better option. Another problem I have is lasering too close, and getting intercepted. I also play too defensively. Being defensive is good, but I spend more time rolling, spot dodging, and camping my shield than any other action, besides possibly lasering.

I've heard the "Drop the negative attitude" line so many times it's not funny. I've tried a positive attitude. I've tried laughing everything off, and I've tried just writing everything negative as nothing, and tried to move on, but it doesn't make a difference on how well I play. The only difference it makes is making me a less unpleasant person to be around.

On another note; I recorded the matches, but as a single video file. Is there a good/easy way to split the whole 2 hour segment into individual matches? Windows Movie Maker is terrible at this.
 

rugoodat

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Finally, don't respond with a "I already knew that" when people are giving you advice, even it's just part of it. You have a habit of that. I know that you do it so that people don't repeat themselves, but it can come off as rude and unappreciative to a lot of people.
This

It's annoying ._.

Tai actually complimented you but you were drowning in your own tears too much to acknowledge it.

I'm sorry that I said that
 

jetfour

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I 1/4 agree with Sean. Only the play to learn part. I personally also play for fun, since the point of this game for me is to have fun. I know it's different for Sean though, since it's more of a lifestyle for him and he has been able to make money and stuff like that.

This is more of a personal thing, but acknowledgment don't mean a **** thing to me. When I enter a tournament, I care about the prize and don't give a **** about the kids behind me cheering/trash talking. If anything, it's a distraction. Whatever input they give, I'll take it but my own motivation and confidence is what keeps me going.

As a coach, it's good to point out the strengths but if you already know what your strengths are, then there's no need to repeat it. If you pulled a kickass combo, you know it was kickass so why does it matter if the schmo next to you agrees. Pointing out your mistakes is more constructive. Anybody can say "be more unpredictable" or "learn to triple shine", but all that is a given. It takes somebody with an eye for smash to point out the mistakes and bad habits. Silent Wolf can do more than PC can with his Fox, but you know why PC is so much better. He doesn't try to reverse waveland shine bair, he just grabs. It's what the pros don't do that make them so successful. When somebody tells you "don't aim for the edge so often with firefox", it's a lot more helpful than "you're good at drillshining". Learn to just take it, and not in a negative way.

I don't buy the "I've tried a positive attitude" schpiel. It's like the morbidly obese people who say "I've tried this diet and that pill". They try all these different things because they don't spend long enough time with diet (good nutrition, not trends like Atkins) and exercise.
(Of course, people that are diabetic, have a disease, etc. are an exception to my obese metaphor.)

To be a little more abstract, being more pleasant of a person helps as a smasher. If you're good or bad at smash, it doesn't matter because people will want to smash with you if you're a cool dude. And more people playing = more experience with more people.

The attitude doesn't affect how well you play as much as it affects how well you learn. That's much more important. I don't feel the need to explain in-depth because it would be too long but if you honestly don't see how, then ask and I'll explain when I get the chance.
 

Taj278

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Don't apologize Duffy,

Play for it all, IMO. Love of the game makes it easier to learn. Find the fun, winning is fun, improvement is fun, recognition is also fun.

For everyone that has played with me extensively in the past, and wondered why I never gave you any advice... you never asked, and if you did, you're asking the wrong questions. You need to ask how to break down scenarios, you need to ask for PERSPECTIVE.

I was going to wall of text you Ruby, but you would probably disregard most of it.
So I'll reiterate plainly: No Johns, QQ More, Learn 2 Play, stop feeling bad for yourself, and play the ****ing game or gtfo.

If you want me to go into more detail about what I was going to say, then PM me. I don't think I'm a bad guy, but straight up, competition is cruel no matter what you do. Someone has to win and someone has to lose. If you can't handle something you play as a hobby, then I think its time you spend more time thinking about how you want to pursue it, more than why you can't improve and how everyone is better than you.
 

Tee ay eye

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For everyone that has played with me extensively in the past, and wondered why I never gave you any advice... you never asked, and if you did, you're asking the wrong questions. You need to ask how to break down scenarios, you need to ask for PERSPECTIVE.
Yeah, I learned that after like, two sessions :laugh:
 

GamerGuitarist7

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Smash irritates me more and more every time I play it. After smashing from like 2:30~3:00-ish, to about 11:00 PM, I won a total of 5 games. 4 of which Chris was stoned, so it hardly counts.
Haha i was meeeeeessed up but you got those wins.

Can't wait to see the Shiv, his friend, Ruby, Kyle, and Jackie vs. my Fox videos hehe. you were the first one out of five people including jackie to beat my fox in a set after like an hour or more of matches so be proud of that. and my high had already worn off by then.
 

AltF4

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I agree with you Tony that competition is cruel no matter what you do. Not just smash. Everything.

If you want to be the best at something, it will consume you. It takes time and effort. There's no short-cuts. And it will be scary. You're going to come across crippling defeats, you're going to get schooled by people not even trying. But you have to learn from it.

It takes maturity. And some people are less willing to help you when you don't display maturity.
 

jetfour

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Forgot to mention, FinalCut Pro is awesome for editing video minus the fact that it costs about a couple thousand.

I'd also take advice of any kind (even life advice lol) from Sean, Tony, and Dan seriously since they are by far the most mature and know from experience. I think they're the oldest ones here too.

I want smashboards to post a thread with a title like "darkrain v ss vids" and make it redirect you to a rickroll. I think I'm the only person that still thinks rickrolling is funny though...
 

AltF4

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I'd also take advice of any kind (even life advice lol) from Sean, Tony, and Dan seriously since they are by far the most mature and know from experience. I think they're the oldest ones here too.
Hah! Oh, man. I'm not "the old man" am I? :) I'm still in school, so I don't feel too bad. It's grad school, but still.

Manny is older than me!

Have we met at a tourney, Jetfour? You have to forgive me, names aren't my best suit. Neither are faces, in fact. :p
 

maXXXpower

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Hah! Oh, man. I'm not "the old man" am I? :) I'm still in school, so I don't feel too bad. It's grad school, but still.

Manny is older than me!

Have we met at a tourney, Jetfour? You have to forgive me, names aren't my best suit. Neither are faces, in fact. :p
Who's this new fark guy? He seems like a douche.

Also, Manny is old.
 

fark

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haha if anyone is up put it on cartoon network they are playing a terrible softcore porn
 
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